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If you think the moment with the Bellamy Pirates and BB is about fighting and not a pure character moment about "believing in and chasing one's dreams" then I don't think we have anything more discuss about this.
Yeah something which is the main focus and theme of the arc, and something which led to Jinbe's flashback, Fisher Tiger, Celestial Dragons and Otohime's stories. But that isn't a character moment nor a plot moment. Cools.
Nami asked and Sanji helped them save the minks. When did I ever disagree that Sanji didn't lead that flashback? It was literally the curly haired pirates. All I said is Zou arc had a lot of Nami moments than Sanji or Zoro or any other strawhat.
Sssssuuuuurrreeeee. But Nami somehow got cucked in that plotline for some reason
Yes she does. Oda said it in an interview. There's a ton of evidence in the story if you look at character moments outside of fights. But ok, you can run your agenda in denial for all I care. This discussion isn't going in any meaningful direction anyway.
Yeah something which is the main focus and theme of the arc, and something which led to Jinbe's flashback, Fisher Tiger, Celestial Dragons and Otohime's stories. But that isn't a character moment nor a plot moment. Cools.
Nami asked and Sanji helped them save the minks. When did I ever disagree that Sanji didn't lead that flashback? It was literally the curly haired pirates. All I said is Zou arc had a lot of Nami moments than Sanji or Zoro or any other strawhat.
Sssssuuuuurrreeeee. But Nami somehow got cucked in that plotline for some reason
Yes she does. Oda said it in an interview. There's a ton of evidence in the story if you look at character moments outside of fights. But ok, you can run your agenda in denial for all I care. This discussion isn't going in any meaningful direction anyway.
Its a scene not a plotline. Cry
Yes and im speaking about people leading plotlines. It had Nami moments sure, but she didnt lead the plotline. Like I said she was a good supporting character. And it wasnt only cause of Nami that Sanji saved the minks. It was cause of Pedro as well.
Yh cause at the end Chopper and Mocha were the stars of that plotline.
What interview ? The main triggers one he said in the first proper arc ? Before he literally didnt write 90% of arcs.
No agenda here, just facts. Nami hadnt been the centre of attention for any plot line since Arlong Park
@Jew D. Boy TOEI playing Overtaken in the Yamato face reveal, if I'm not wrong the last time they used it was when Jinbei returned to Wano.
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Damn @Chrono once being backed into a corner has now risen, matured, and become even stronger than before.
Watch out Zoro-gang.
Watch out Zoro-gang.
Literally happened right before Luffy proclamation. And yes, the whole point of the pacifista scene was to show how stronger the crew's main three fighters have gotten over the timeskip.
Whereas the message behind the Bellamy scene was to show the importance of dreams and chasing after them, even if people ridicule you for it. Further proof is when the entire sequence ended with this scene, probably the most iconic scene in One Piece.
Apples and Oranges comparison.
Nami's past being relevant in FMI arc is "just a scene" but Sanji and Black Maria thing is a plotline now. Idk about you but sounds like double standards to me lol.
When did Chopper and Mocha come into Wano? When did I ever talk about PH?
"lead the plotline" sure dude, sounds like another coping mechanism.
He said that in 2001. When the entire East Blue saga, the essential blueprint of One Piece as a whole, was completed. Why are you lying lol?
And this was done for Chapter 1000.
Sure dude XD.
just wait until the Laughtale Arc because there's a good chance that Nami will be the most important strawhat, the one connected to treasure and navigation, in that arc.
Why are Sanji fans so insecure when someone talks about this trio lol? This has nothing to do with the Monster trio nor with the Wings of the Pirate King as well. This is literally just Oda's choice of the three core MC's in his story, the ones he started the manga with. And no, being an MC doesn't mean they gotta be the #3 of the crew or the defacto captain when the other 2 MCs aren't there lol. I guess WCI recency bias is pretty strong here lol.
Anyway I don't feel like arguing this with you will go anywhere so let's just agree to disagree.
Whereas the message behind the Bellamy scene was to show the importance of dreams and chasing after them, even if people ridicule you for it. Further proof is when the entire sequence ended with this scene, probably the most iconic scene in One Piece.
Nami's past being relevant in FMI arc is "just a scene" but Sanji and Black Maria thing is a plotline now. Idk about you but sounds like double standards to me lol.
When did Chopper and Mocha come into Wano? When did I ever talk about PH?
"lead the plotline" sure dude, sounds like another coping mechanism.
He said that in 2001. When the entire East Blue saga, the essential blueprint of One Piece as a whole, was completed. Why are you lying lol?
And this was done for Chapter 1000.
Sure dude XD.
just wait until the Laughtale Arc because there's a good chance that Nami will be the most important strawhat, the one connected to treasure and navigation, in that arc.
Why are Sanji fans so insecure when someone talks about this trio lol? This has nothing to do with the Monster trio nor with the Wings of the Pirate King as well. This is literally just Oda's choice of the three core MC's in his story, the ones he started the manga with. And no, being an MC doesn't mean they gotta be the #3 of the crew or the defacto captain when the other 2 MCs aren't there lol. I guess WCI recency bias is pretty strong here lol.
Anyway I don't feel like arguing this with you will go anywhere so let's just agree to disagree.
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