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This already happened when you had a conquer cry about gold or conquer being a guy who lives in his mom basement
Katakuri is regarded as an invincible Combatant. Whitebeard parallels Katakuri. Katakuri’s presence is immense in WCI. Second only to Big Mom. The other sweet commanders have full faith in him. On top of this he mastered an entire Haki Form. Strength is his resolution. He maintains the right to be a Conqueror.

Chinjao as well. The only ones to crush him was Luffy (the future PK) and Garp (the rival of the PK). Not like he lost to Queen or Judge lmfao
 
Realizes he’s gonna die:
Roger before he dies. Oden before he dies. Whitebeard pulling up to Marineford setting his own death.

These people were ready to die like legends and accepted it.

Meanwhile
biased panel choices imo
you push usopp having coc and think sanji devalues it ?
the coward in the crew
predisposition for a king?
rofl.
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Sanji has shown plenty of that throughout the manga
think you didnt understand what I said
sanji showing that
has no correlation to whether he gets coc or not
am saying its a possibility that coc is linked to blood thirst , kindness etc
however no direct link has been shown in the story..........

for example luffy's ability to understand others is seen in observation haki
not coc...
 
biased panel choices imo
you push usopp having coc and think sanji devalues it ?
the coward in the crew
predisposition for a king?
rofl.
Usopp because he says it. Usopps whole journey is to become brave. Once he does, none of that past stuff matters because he will either diee in a brave scene or will continue living as a Goat. Unlike Sanji who is wishy washy.
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He outright said he didn't care if he died while throwing a hissy fit over Ace's death
A hissy fit? Mfer went to hell and back for one of the only people who took him in at that age. He wouldn’t be who he is today for people like Ace and Shanks. Ace is the reason why he is reckless and courageous.
 
Katakuri is regarded as an invincible Combatant. Whitebeard parallels Katakuri. Katakuri’s presence is immense in WCI. Second only to Big Mom. The other sweet commanders have full faith in him. On top of this he mastered an entire Haki Form. Strength is his resolution. He maintains the right to be a Conqueror.

Chinjao as well. The only ones to crush him was Luffy (the future PK) and Garp (the rival of the PK). Not like he lost to Queen or Judge lmfao
Your point was how a simp would diminish conquener value when it's already been shown to be used by characters less appealing.

A better comparison would be big mom and kaido. Both are at the top of one piece world and rivaled wb, admirals Shanks. One is a depressed suicidal drunk that dreams of odens sword while the other has the mentality of a child and screamed wedding cake for hours.

Sanji having conquers would not make conquers not special
 
Usopp because he says it. Usopps whole journey is to become brave. Once he does, none of that past stuff matters because he will either diee in a brave scene or will continue living as a Goat. Unlike Sanji who is wishy washy.
so usopp's reason is even worse than sanji .cause he said so
born a coward
goes to sea to try and change that

if coc is truly dormant once one is born
why does he strive to be brave in the first place
shouldnt he be that from birth ?
those traits seem pretty innate to me for someone who has coc.
 
biased panel choices imo
you push usopp having coc and think sanji devalues it ?
the coward in the crew
predisposition for a king?
rofl.
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think you didnt understand what I said
sanji showing that
has no correlation to whether he gets coc or not
am saying its a possibility that coc is linked to blood thirst , kindness etc
however no direct link has been shown in the story..........

for example luffy's ability to understand others is seen in observation haki
not coc...
Also. Usopp has in a way built a following around him. Through the Elbaf Warriors, God Usopp, and his numerous statues across the world (Skypeia, Dressrosa, and possibly Elbaf). There ain’t no way this dude is not special.
 
Having CoC isnt about conquering, it is about the amount of Willpower you have.

Katakuri doesnt wanna conquer shit and he has CoC because he has a lot of will to protect his family
or his mama has it
increasing the chances one of her kids does too
kind of implied it can be genetically linked with the comments about dragon after luffy used it.
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marco doesnt seem to have it
still one of the strongest fighters in the verse lol.
 
Your point was how a simp would diminish conquener value when it's already been shown to be used by characters less appealing.

A better comparison would be big mom and kaido. Both are at the top of one piece world and rivaled wb, admirals Shanks. One is a depressed suicidal drunk that dreams of odens sword while the other has the mentality of a child and screamed wedding cake for hours.

Sanji having conquers would not make conquers not special
Yes right because Kaido and Big MOm are simps right? Conquerors are usually stupid people as well cuz they’re stupid brave. Kaido wants to push past the limits of his durability. He literally can’t kill himself. He idolizes Oden because that would be one hell of a good fight for him. That’s why he killed the old Hag, she got in the way of a fight of a lifetime that comes by ever so often. And big mom is such a mess, I don’t wanna even stick up for her.
 
Usopp because he says it. Usopps whole journey is to become brave. Once he does, none of that past stuff matters because he will either diee in a brave scene or will continue living as a Goat. Unlike Sanji who is wishy washy.
I think Ussop is getting it too, but to say Sanji is wishy washy and Ussop hasn’t been is disingenuous. And if the past doesn’t matter once Ussop commits to being all in then it’s hypocritical to say it wouldn’t be the same for Sanji.

You can make the argument that you don’t think Sani ever will take that stand, but you can’t say if he did then he isn’t entitled to the same treatment as Ussop. I’ve got no problem with you disliking Sanji and not wanting him to have it, but I have to call a disingenuous argument out when I see it on principle.

This from someone who up until this point doesn’t think Sanji has shown he should have it, and doesn’t really think he needs it.
 
so usopp's reason is even worse than sanji .cause he said so
born a coward
goes to sea to try and change that

if coc is truly dormant once one is born
why does he strive to be brave in the first place
shouldnt he be that from birth ?
those traits seem pretty innate to me for someone who has coc.
His lies become truths. Unless you wanna ignore that and just push it to the side like some headcanon go ahead. But that’s factually canon. Another thing is Usopp barely has a handle on the other Haki forms. And the only characters to have shown Haki blooms have been Luffy, Zoro, and Usopp. And Usopp awakened CoO in an arc of conquerors where the first domino falls.
 
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