General & Others The big issue with all One piece theories

ImmaIvanoM

ImmaIvanoM

‎
#1
#1
The one glaring consideration people don’t account for when making theories about what the one piece is is Why didn’t it matter in the void Century?

Like whether you think the One piece is a weapon or an energy source or information or the friends we made along the way, the question is Why is it a treasure that matters now YET IT DIDNT MATTER IN THE VOID CENTURY?

How did Imu win? How did Joyboy lose? How did the ancient kingdom get destroyed? How did the world get flooded? How come any of the above things happened when presumably the One piece existed back then?

There’s theories that it was Imu who had the one piece 800 years ago and that’s why it didn’t save the world back then but then how did he lose it for it come into the possession of the Joyboy side and why didn’t they do anything with it once they got it and just decided to hide it for 800 years?

Maybe it’s some really gimmicky thing. For example the one piece is a gun that requires literally 800 whole years to charge up and then shoot one bullet that can kill Imu and then immediately go dormant again. And that’s the explanation for why it didn’t matter 800 years ago yet it matters now.

People’s one piece theories need to account for Some kind of weird ass gimmick no one is even thinking about.
 
ImmaIvanoM

ImmaIvanoM

‎
#3
#3
Salah WG said:
Who said it wasn't used back then?
Click to expand...
Why didn’t it win back then then?

I mean we are led to believe that instead of straight up mobilizing the entire world to directly attack Mariejois and kill everyone, the solution according to Vegapunk is the one piece.

like vegapunk knows that the WG is 4 laser blasts away from drowning the entire world and his solution is FIND THE ONE PIECE.

It seems like the one piece can not only beat Imu, it even fix the state of the world somehow.

so why didn’t it do that back then?
 
Salah WG

Salah WG

‎
#4
#4
ImmaIvanoM said:
Why didn’t it win back then then?

I mean we are led to believe that instead of straight up mobilizing the entire world to directly attack Mariejois and kill everyone, the solution according to Vegapunk is the one piece.

like vegapunk knows that the WG is 4 laser blasts away from drowning the entire world and his solution is FIND THE ONE PIECE.

It seems like the one piece can not only beat Imu, it even fix the state of the world somehow.

so why didn’t it do that back then?
Click to expand...
Win what? One Piece doesn't end wars, it triggers the biggest one,
And who said the world wasn't fixed back then? All we know is that however the world was, it couldn't remain so for more than 100 years,

So the problem isn't with the world or one piece, the problem is with the "resource" that could keep things as they were but unfortunately it ran out, and that's why Roger Pirates were too early,

The one piece isn't what's missing, it's out there somewhere, just made difficult to find, and it's not like they hid it that well, you do realize that if not for Man With Burn Scar, it was possible for many characters to find it, Roger was even ready to guide WB there,

What's truly missing is some resource that fuels One Piece,
But this time, fuel it Permanently, not Temporarily.

If you take Moon People as an example, the resource they ran out of was Electricity & what was solution? Goro Goro No Mi, which ended up with the main villain Enel, so I won't be surprised if One Piece can be Re-Activated by Imu's Powers, making him the missing key.
 
Yoho

Yoho

I'm Quite Dandy
‎
#5
#5
I think its just a bunch of treasure with a Poneglyph that tells the whole story from joyboys perspective
 
ImmaIvanoM

ImmaIvanoM

‎
#6
#6
Salah WG said:
One Piece doesn't end wars, it triggers the biggest one,
Click to expand...
This has been disputed

Oda some years ago said that finding the one piece is the literal end of the story. As in Oda has said the story ends when Luffy becomes pirate king

The final war is the war to obtain the one piece.
 
Salah WG

Salah WG

‎
#7
#7
ImmaIvanoM said:
This has been disputed

Oda some years ago said that finding the one piece is the literal end of the story. As in Oda has said the story ends when Luffy becomes pirate king

The final war is the war to obtain the one piece.
Click to expand...
That's because I don't believe Joy Boy's One Piece is the Ending Goal,
I think Luffy will create his own Version of One Piece Treasure,

One Piece = "Everything this World has to Offer", but there is no rule that says Luffy must stick to Joy Boy's Version of it,
It's like saying Zoro will be Greatest Swordsman by using Mihawk's Ultimate Technique, ofc not, Zoro will have his own Final Technique,
 
comrade

comrade

‎
#8
#8
Salah WG said:
Win what? One Piece doesn't end wars, it triggers the biggest one,
And who said the world wasn't fixed back then? All we know is that however the world was, it couldn't remain so for more than 100 years,

So the problem isn't with the world or one piece, the problem is with the "resource" that could keep things as they were but unfortunately it ran out, and that's why Roger Pirates were too early,

The one piece isn't what's missing, it's out there somewhere, just made difficult to find, and it's not like they hid it that well, you do realize that if not for Man With Burn Scar, it was possible for many characters to find it, Roger was even ready to guide WB there,

What's truly missing is some resource that fuels One Piece,
But this time, fuel it Permanently, not Temporarily.

If you take Moon People as an example, the resource they ran out of was Electricity & what was solution? Goro Goro No Mi, which ended up with the main villain Enel, so I won't be surprised if One Piece can be Re-Activated by Imu's Powers, making him the missing key.
Click to expand...
I think the theory that Joyboy sent the One Piece to the future (through Toki or Toki's fruit) is pretty reasonable, that's why Roger and his crew laughed and said they were too early. Because by the time they reached Laughtale, it was empty. The One Piece did not yet arrive. It may just about to arrive.
 
D. Plant

D. Plant

‎
#11
#11
One Piece is tied to the ancient weapons, and Lilith or York doesn't seems like able to create the eternal energy anytime soon, so logically thinking it is just an eternal energy generator aka the sun from the mural. They killed it during void century, that's why they lost the war.
 
O

OykotsTreasure

‎
#12
#12
This is why I like the idea of the One Piece Treasure being Bink's Sake, in some form.

Because, sake, like most alcohols, needs time to properly age. They've been waiting for this drink to ferment for 800 years! It better be mind-blowing!
https://sake-world.com/about-sake/sake-faq/aging-sake/

And while Vasco Shot's Glug-Glug Fruit makes it unlikely, I DO like the idea of Bink's Sake literally being a man named Binks, who ate the Sake-Sake Fruit. Becoming a boozy Kool-Aid Man. Aging himself in a barrel for the past 800 years, like those monks who bury themselves alive to achieve enlightenment. Only instead of that being called "Sokushinbutsu", this would be..."Sake-Shinbutsu"!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokushinbutsu



Now, the Treasure turning out to just be alcohol might be a little underwhelming. But, what you need to DO with that alcohol might be the real key, here. It could either be used as a "offering" to a group of people for a apology, similar to the myth of Orochi. Or...sometimes really strong alcohols are called "rocket fuel". And there is a Moon that the Strawhats could visit.
reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/1fx00id/til_that_because_the_v2_rocket_was_fueled_by/
https://www.dlr.de/en/latest/news/2...on-project-is-based-on-green-propulsion_20952

Now, there is a little problem with this idea. Because the One Piece Treasure is also called "The Great Hito-Tsunagi Treasure" or "The Rope Linking All Men". Possibly hinting that the Treasure has something to do with Haki Knots. But, there is a way to combine these two ideas. Because oftentimes, real sake barrels are wrapped up with rope. So, it's possible that you need to cut the Haki Knot wrapping the Sake barrel, in order to get to the sake inside.
https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/One_Piece
https://japanandbeyond.substack.com/p/straw-wrapped-and-storied-sake-barrels
https://www.greenshinto.com/2019/11/30/sake-barrels/

In some ancient texts, sake is even called "miki" using the characters for "god" and "wine", indicating that drinking it makes you feel closer to the GODS! The sake barrels are typical broken open with people using hammers, similar to some of Luffy's iconic "Hammer" attacks. And the decorative barrels that you can see displayed at Shinto Shrines, called Kazaridaru, are actually empty inside. Which kind of mirrors Gaimon's empty treasure chest from WAY back, which many people speculate could mirror the actual One Piece Treasure. There's a lot of things that kind of work out if the Treasure turns out to be Bink's Sake.

I wouldn't say it's a lock. Because, it's possible that "Bink's Sake" is some sort of Japanese pun or wordplay or placeholder that we don't fully understand, yet. But, I do like the idea. It's one of my pet theories. Even if there's not a lot of proof supporting it.
 
Last edited:
ImmaIvanoM

ImmaIvanoM

‎
#13
#13
comrade said:
I think the theory that Joyboy sent the One Piece to the future (through Toki or Toki's fruit) is pretty reasonable, that's why Roger and his crew laughed and said they were too early. Because by the time they reached Laughtale, it was empty. The One Piece did not yet arrive. It may just about to arrive.
Click to expand...
the issue with this theory is that this means either Joyboy or Toki had the one piece in their possession 800 years ago and yet they still couldn’t beat Imu.

So something about either The Joyboy side or the one piece itself could allow for victory 800 years ago
 
BoaHancocksHusband

BoaHancocksHusband

‎
#14
#14
OykotsTreasure said:
This is why I like the idea of the One Piece Treasure being Bink's Sake, in some form.

Because, sake, like most alcohols, needs time to properly age. They've been waiting for this drink to ferment for 800 years! It better be mind-blowing!
https://sake-world.com/about-sake/sake-faq/aging-sake/

And while Vasco Shot's Glug-Glug Fruit makes it unlikely, I DO like the idea of Bink's Sake literally being a man named Binks, who ate the Sake-Sake Fruit. Becoming a boozy Kool-Aid Man. Aging himself in a barrel for the past 800 years, like those monks who bury themselves alive to achieve enlightenment. Only instead of that being called "Sokushinbutsu", this would be..."Sake-Shinbutsu"!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokushinbutsu



Now, the Treasure turning out to just be alcohol might be a little underwhelming. But, what you need to DO with that alcohol might be the real key, here. It could either be used as a "offering" to a group of people for a apology, similar to the myth of Orochi. Or...sometimes really strong alcohols are called "rocket fuel". And there is a Moon that the Strawhats could visit.
reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/1fx00id/til_that_because_the_v2_rocket_was_fueled_by/
https://www.dlr.de/en/latest/news/2...on-project-is-based-on-green-propulsion_20952

Now, there is a little problem with this idea. Because the One Piece Treasure is also called "The Great Hito-Tsunagi Treasure" or "The Rope Linking All Men". Possibly hinting that the Treasure has something to do with Haki Knots. But, there is a way to combine these two ideas. Because oftentimes, real sake barrels are wrapped up with rope. So, it's possible that you need to cut the Haki Knot wrapping the Sake barrel, in order to get to the sake inside.
https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/One_Piece
https://japanandbeyond.substack.com/p/straw-wrapped-and-storied-sake-barrels
https://www.greenshinto.com/2019/11/30/sake-barrels/

In some ancient texts, sake is even called "miki" using the characters for "god" and "wine", indicating that drinking it makes you feel closer to the GODS! The sake barrels are typical broken open with people using hammers, similar to some of Luffy's iconic "Hammer" attacks. And the decorative barrels that you can see displayed at Shinto Shrines, called Kazaridaru, are actually empty inside. Which kind of mirrors Gaimon's empty treasure chest from WAY back, which many people speculate could mirror the actual One Piece Treasure. There's a lot of things that kind of work out if the Treasure turns out to be Bink's Sake.

I wouldn't say it's a lock. Because, it's possible that "Bink's Sake" is some sort of Japanese pun or wordplay or placeholder that we don't fully understand, yet. But, I do like the idea. It's one of my pet theories. Even if there's not a lot of proof supporting it.
Click to expand...
Big Daddy Saran is friends with Binks.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top