Future Events The biggest proof to Blackbeard NOT being the final villain is the amount of times his crew got rekt

#21
Burgess was NEGGED by Sabo

Everybody other than shiryu and lafitte got NEGGED by aokiji base ice attack

Avalo pizarro got his entire island hand broken by koby's first ACoC attack

Devon and vasco got NEGGED by hancock

Van auger, lafitte and burgess couldn't fight pre timeskip ace and got scolded by teach for daring to engage him

How tf does anyone sees this and still thinks they are the final villains lol?

Gorosei vulgar display of violence made it 100% that imu is the final villain and strongest person in OPverse
Exactly, also when Jinbe was talking about BB at the fishman island LUFFY DIDN'T CARE. This is clearly was showing that BB is not HIM
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I don't think Oda would waste chapters starting Pre-TS for BB to be just an arc villain. Especially with Gorosei showing their final forms, the possibility that they will be final villains have gone down.
Gorosei showing their power is nothing more then teaser of the Final Battle. SH even as Younko are running for their lives. This is L for new Younko.
 
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#23
Yes it was an advanced coc

There is 0 feat with a no-touching feat of that magnitude that wasn't advanced coc. If so show the example?

Even when luffy had advanced ryou which allows no touching the no touching affect wasn't addressed until luffy used advanced coc with law addressing that no touching is involved
His attack fits description of Flow.
Range varies because , luffy was trying that on a fuckin tree with Haki applied.
Coby was punching Huge battleship with bare hands of course there's a clesr difference in how they are potrayed.
 
#24
They're getting stronger just like the SH, that's the main appeal of the crew. You can say the same stuff about the SH pirates. The fact is SH and BB pirates will be stronger than any other Yonko crew in the series.

I agree they're not the final villains but not because of the reasons mentioned.
 
#25
Out of all reason this what you came up with?
This was the reason why I though that Akainu beign the final villain. But it's works for Imu and Gorosei even more. This is how author wanted to show Teach.
They're getting stronger just like the SH, that's the main appeal of the crew. You can say the same stuff about the SH pirates. The fact is SH and BB pirates will be stronger than any other Yonko crew in the series.

I agree they're not the final villains but not because of the reasons mentioned.
BB are SH rivals which is what Oda planned from the begining. While WG is true enemy.
 
#26
Gorosei showing their power is nothing more then teaser of the Final Battle. SH even as Younko are running for their lives. This is L for new Younko.
As a group, yes they are a threat to Luffy but individually, they aren't stronger than Luffy, especially once their regen trick is up.

We have seen Villains before not using their final forms before their defeat like Jack.
 

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#28
Luffy got wrecked by Crocodile twice before he beat him. Similair with Kaido.

Teach is allowed to have multiple attempts too at becomming the big baddie at the end, and recently he has been succeeding.
 
#29
As a group, yes they are a threat to Luffy but individually, they aren't stronger than Luffy, especially once their regen trick is up.

We have seen Villains before not using their final forms before their defeat like Jack.
Warcury Haki is stronger then both Luffy's haki and Kaido. So you can explance everything with PLOT. But Gorosei are not suppose to be Luffy's enemies, they will be defeated by SH+ Sabo+Law and Kid. But Gorosei power lvl just shows how strong is Imu and how far will be difference in power lvl in EOS between everyone.
 
#30
Warcury Haki is stronger then both Luffy's haki and Kaido.
His roar never damage anyone and was deflected by the giants.
But Gorosei are not suppose to be Luffy's enemies, they will be defeated by SH+ Sabo+Law and Kid.
That is just your assumption, it has no basis at all. I could also say that at final war, Sabo, Kidd and Law will fight Akainu, Greenbull and Fuji.

I have a basis on why I think the gorosei ain't gonna be part of the main villains(they have shown their final form) while you use assumption with no basis(no offense). And I am not really a fan of arguing by using assumptions. So let's just agree to disagree.
 
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#31
His roar never damage anyone and was deflected by the giants.
I was talking not about Roar lol
That is just your assumption, it has no basis at all. I could also say that at final war, Sabo, Kidd and Law will fight Akainu, Greenbull and Fuji.

I have a basis on why I think the gorosei ain't gonna be part of the main villains(they have shown their final form) while you use assumption with no basis(no offense). And I am not really a fan of arguing by using assumptions. So let's just agree to disagree.
Fujitora will fight Greenbull case marines will split in two halfs.
 
#33
I have changed my opinion several times on this and still don't know the answer. Both Imu and BB have arguments for and against them.

Imu is obviously the big evil. He is the one that needs to defeated to change the World and destroy the WG rule. But there is a chance that BB could be the FV if the story is about defeating Imu/WG regime first and then Luffy and BB have a fight about how the post-WG new world will look like. In this scenario Blackbeard will take over the throne shortly after Imu has been defeated before being taken down by Luffy.

But right now Imu is still favourite for me because Blackbeard probably needs to become PK first to achieve his ultimate goal of ruling over the World. Just like Luffy who needs to become PK first to achieve his ultimate dream whatever it is.

So atm I still believe in the bog standard route which is Luffy vs Blackbeard for the PK title and Imu as the final villain.
 
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