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Why wouldn't Mihawk tell Zoro about his COC?


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#62
No zoro used asura

Kaido and law who both know what coc is say nothing


Zoro hits kaido with asura
Kaido says Coc
Law says nothing

This shows zoro didn't use standard coc or else law would have said so and that he cut kaido with it.
Again this doesn't prove it that his blades were coated with Coc.. when he doesn't even know he has Coc.. and Ashura only take up limited area unlike normal usage of Coc.. and doesn't have that lightning attribute.. plus.. kaido is stunned and is shocked "UGHN!" when zoro' s ashura hasn't even touched kaido... which is just another thing that counters the point that zoro's attack was imbued with Coc... there is more proof of Ashura's Manifestation being COC.. and zoro imbuing CoC in his blades is a difference argument.... hence this is inconclusive
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#64
Again this doesn't prove it that his blades were coated with Coc.. when he doesn't even know he has Coc.. and Ashura only take up limited area unlike normal usage of Coc.. and doesn't have that lighting attribute.. plus.. kaido is stunned and is shocked "UGHN!" when zoro' s ashura hasn't even touched kaido... which is just another thing that counters the point that zoro's attack was imbued with Coc... there is more proof of Ashura's Manifestation being COC.. and zoro imbuing CoC in his blades is a difference argument....
No that panel is zoro deflecting kaidos club before he hits him.

Why doesn't kaido say coc when he sees asura then ?
Why doesn't law say coc at any point ?
Why does kaido only say coc once hit ?
 

Adam 🍎

Pretty Boy
#65
I don't think Mihawk felt CoC that time but he rather felt something that can become CoC.
CoC is just will materialized, you don't need to be conqueror you just need to have will strong enough to birth it. Zoro being ready to die for his ambition showing that he has the will for it probably showed Mihawk Zoro MIGHT have a chance of being something big hence why he told Zoro - don't throw your life hastily - same thing sanji said to Zoro that arc
 
#66
No that panel is zoro deflecting kaidos club before he hits him.

Why doesn't kaido say coc when he sees asura then ?
Why doesn't law say coc at any point ?
Why does kaido only say coc once hit ?
No that panel is zoro deflecting kaidos club before he hits him.

Why doesn't kaido say coc when he sees asura then ?
Why doesn't law say coc at any point ?
Why does kaido only say coc once hit ?
Zoro didn't deflect "hell hakkii" he is in no condition for that he just blitzed kaido... stop with the false interpretations just to prove something that can't be proven by facts expect for one's bias while contradicting the essence of a notion

Law could't coz zoro's COc (ashura) is very proximity dependent apparently or just that you must be near enough thats why kaido realized it when zoro was close but couldn't hit him coz he was blitzed by zoro or since zoro couldn't sense Coc himself.. i doubt that law could have either.. since there was no lighting emitting.. he wasn't imbuing Coc.. unless you can prove it other wise with other instances rather than ranting about omg kaido said that zoro has Coc after he got hit which.. which just proves the initial point that it wasn't demonstrated that zoro had imbued Coc... thibgs like deflecting an attack is something oda doesn't off screen and itz clear zoro blitzed him with Ashura which made Kaido think zoro had Coc..
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#67
Zoro didn't deflect "hell hakkii" he is in no condition for that he just blitzed kaido... stop with the false interpretations just to prove something that can't be proven by facts expect for one's bias while contradicting the essence of a notion

Law could't coz zoro's COc (ashura) is very proximity dependent apparently or just that you must be near enough thats why kaido realized it when zoro was close but couldn't hit him coz he was blitzed by zoro or since zoro couldn't sense Coc himself.. i doubt that law could have either.. since there was no lighting emitting.. he wasn't imbuing Coc.. unless you can prove it other wise with other instances rather than ranting about omg kaido said that zoro has Coc after he got hit which.. which just proves the initial point that it wasn't demonstrated that zoro had imbued Coc... if plus thing like deflecting an attack is something kaido doesn't off screen and it clear zoro blitzed him with Ashura which made Kaido think zoro had Coc..
You're really really stupid.
Every interaction you prove more and more you cannot read.
The sfx for that bottom panel is for a clash. Meaning zoro did indeed deflect his club.
Heck I'm not even sure If hell hakke is kaidos attack.
Again no kaido doesn't say coc until he's attacked.
 
#68
You're really really stupid.
Every interaction you prove more and more you cannot read.
The sfx for that bottom panel is for a clash. Meaning zoro did indeed deflect his club.
Heck I'm not even sure If hell hakke is kaidos attack.
Again no kaido doesn't say coc until he's attacked.
is it really that sfx.. ok ama give the benefit of the doubt, then still provides minimal proof that zoro did imbue coc.. law couldn't coz zoro himself couldn't.. kaido could for some odd reason.. but zoro doesn't seem to be imbuing any Coc from what has been demonstrated.. we know that Roger and WB poured excessive haki in their blade and it was emitting black lightning but zoro's blades didn't... even after they show us zoro imbuing excessive haki in ENMMMA...


so you're basing this on nothing..
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You're really really stupid.
Every interaction you prove more and more you cannot read.
The sfx for that bottom panel is for a clash. Meaning zoro did indeed deflect his club.
Heck I'm not even sure If hell hakke is kaidos attack.
Again no kaido doesn't say coc until he's attacked.
AND i couldn't find the translation of that Kanji so help me out if u may
 
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Haoshoku

#69
People are saying the OP is “wishful thinking” yet their baseless retorts are exactly that lmao. The fact that Zoro even has Conqueror’s haki at all confirms that Mihawk has it as well, he was already overqualified when it came to the bare minimum requirements. Kaido’s reaction heavily implies Zoro may have clad traces of dormant CoC into his blades and if Zoro has that, Mihawk has it as well. Its as simple as that. The amount of mental gymnastics that’s being resorted to just to try and argue that Mihawk doesn’t have CoC at all is pitiful.
 
#70
People are saying the OP is “wishful thinking” yet their baseless retorts are exactly that lmao. The fact that Zoro even has Conqueror’s haki at all confirms that Mihawk has it as well, he was already overqualified when it came to the bare minimum requirements. Kaido’s reaction heavily implies Zoro may have clad traces of dormant CoC into his blades and if Zoro has that, Mihawk has it as well. Its as simple as that. The amount of mental gymnastics that’s being resorted to just to try and argue that Mihawk doesn’t have CoC at all is pitiful.
WB and Roger imbued their weapons with haki and it has back streaks coming out of it

Zoro doesn't have those streaks when we visually see him imbue has in enma



And even if Mihawk doesn't have Coc, its astonishing that he is rivaling someone who has Coc.. which is great for him
 
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Haoshoku

#73
WB and Roger imbued their weapons with haki and it has back streaks coming out of it

Zoro doesn't have those streaks when we visually see him imbue has in enma



And even if Mihawk doesn't have Coc, its astonishing that he is rivaling someone who has Coc.. which is great for him
The black lightning like sparks are an indication of the overflowing CoC haki. The reason why we don’t see it with Zoro is because he doesn’t know how to properly control his conqueror’s haki yet. He said he put “everything” he had into the attack, so him going all out probably brought about some CoC to get leaked out subconsciously; not enough to manifest itself into those black sparks however. Kaido sensed that and then posed that question. Its pretty clear that the attack itself had something to do with CoC.
 
#74
CoC is the missing piece needed to create a black blade. It allows swordsman or blade weapon fighters to dominate there blade/edge weapon and add their conquering and unyielding force to it.

Being the WSS means they have conquered all other swordsman. Yes, CoC is needed to be the WSS.
 
#75
The fact that Zoro knew what COC was coming out of the timeskip indicates that Mihawk did have a conversation with him about COC, he just never alluded to Zoro himself having it. Which begs the question as to why Mihawk mentioned COC at all, and in what context.

Did Mihawk say Shanks has it? That he saw Luffy use it? Or perhaps he said that he himself has it, and that COC marks out individuals who aspire for the very top of the OP world (hence Zoro’s comment about Luffy at FMI). I don’t see any reason for Mihawk to bring up Shanks to Zoro, or for him to randomly mention Luffy using COC to knock out Ace’s executioners; the whole thing had nothing to do with Mihawk to begin with.
 
#76
The black lightning like sparks are an indication of the overflowing CoC haki. The reason why we don’t see it with Zoro is because he doesn’t know how to properly control his conqueror’s haki yet. He said he put “everything” he had into the attack, so him going all out probably brought about some CoC to get leaked out subconsciously; not enough to manifest itself into those black sparks however. Kaido sensed that and then posed that question. Its pretty clear that the attack itself had something to do with CoC.
yea it does have something to do with Coc.. no doubt.. but they made it obvious that zoro was concentrating haki in enma ig that and Ashura together might have transpired it
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#78
Like people said - Zoro and Mihawk dont need CoC. CoC needs Zoro and Mihawk.
As for the reason why characters didnt say something before - simply, storytelling.
Mihawk could have spilled everything about Black blade to Zoro but he didnt.
It is simply better if Zoro figures it out on his own.
 
#79
Lol

If you didn't give a shit about Mihawk having it before, don't get indignant about it now. Zoro is Zoro. That has nothing to do with Mihawk, Kuina, Helmeppo, or Tashigi etc.

Does Mihawk need it? No. Oda has not confirmed Blackbeard, Mihawk, or Sakazuki, but went out of his way to confirm Sengoku apparently. That doesn't actually determine relevance to the story any more than being a D does.
 
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