Questions & Mysteries The difference between Zoro, Sanji, Jimbe and The Captain

#24
And wb said, guys like oden are not people that are followers, so they can't be in same crew or else you get ROCKs scenario all over again. Like imgine law, luffy, Kidd in the same crew. sanji, zoro, jimbe are followers reason they follow luffy, they don't have captain ambition like law, kidd, other supernovas.
This isn't true IMO

Roger has Oden, Shanks Rayleigh, (maybe even bullet) on his crew and they are all CoC users and Whitebeard ended up accepting Oden to join him afer he proved he wouldn't be a problem

The problem with Rocks is that he created a crew of these guys with CoC but his main method of bringing them together was BY FORCE... thats the problem... Roger proves that you can have these CoC users on your crew and its fine as long you aren't using Force to make them your subordinates....

I think this is why Kaido specfically wants strong guys like Luffy and kid but he wants to break them before putting them in his crew instead of like Rocks where he allowed guys to even kill each other on his crew to obtain superiority... Basically Kaido is doing what Rocks' plan but much more efficiently

And like we saw, Whitebeard ended up being fine with Oden joining because the man isn't blindly ambitious and even let go of the chain in order to save Toki

Luffy isn't behoven to fall under the restrictions of any other pirate or pirate crew that has ever existed since his will be the greatest one among all of them...
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Zoro follows orders lol
He gets ordered around as any Strawhat

Luffy Oden Roger... hates being ordered around
Which panel did you see Oden say "he hates being ordered around"

The only rebelliousness from Oden we've seen is against the closed borders system... thats him disliking unnecessary restrictions... But as we saw after, he isn't like refusing taking orders from Whitebeard or anything... He could've climbed up that chain anytime he wanted in those three days and chose to follow that order and never complained once
 
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#25
They follow Luffy because they trust and believe in him and he has their respect. Also luffy believes in their dreams and will support them in achieving them. That goes for every single SH.

Most of the SH's wouldn't follow any other captain. Only Nami and Robin would and that would just be as a means to a greater end not whole heartedly.

I'll say Jimbei is more out of pure respect and admiration than the others tho.
 
#29
Jinbei is a follower, Sanji is a follower, only person on the strawhats that isn't a natural follower is Roronoa (hence its been pointed out multiple times in the manga to hype up Luffy as a leader).
Literally only zoro has moments with people thinking he's captain or that they can't believe hell serve someone else. I don't know where sanji and jinbei fit in
 
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#31
Literally only zero has moments with people thinking he's captain or that they can't believe hell serve someone else. I don't know where sanji and jinbei fit in
I mean it's understandable why somebody would mention the two. Jinbei had a Roronoa like role under Tiger and Sanjis got leadership qualities and what not.

But yea when it comes to that it's really only Zoro that stands out for the strawhats.
 
#34
Jinbei a follower?

He Just was One of the most infamous and strong pirate captain in the world....
There's tons of infamous strong captains like Jinbei in the OP world, Whitebeard's allies were filled with them. Yet Oden was still the only one highlighted out of them. So there's a difference there. Jinbei has never been highlighted that type of an individual.

Simply because one can lead, doesn't mean they can't be followers.
 
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What he's saying is that Jinbei ain't a natural leader ..

He can be a captain, but that doesnt mean he's a natural leader. Zoro is without a doubt a leader.

And Jinbei was always behind someone.. WB and Big Mom
Zoro is a natural leader ? Lol
Natural born leaders are those with CoC

Then you have normal leaders which JINBEI Was, even Brook became captain of his old crew
Franky has led people prior Joining luffy and Sanji is a leader too...

Zoro has never led anyone , never had a gang of people he led prior joining.
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You're really using the fact that Sanji currently has 10M more than Zoro, when Zoro has had a bigger bounty than Sanji all series?
Nope
Sanji 1st bounty is bigger than Zoro first bounty
Sanji 2nd bounty is bigger than Zoro second bounty
And for their 3 rd bounties, currently Sanji has a bigger bounty than Zoro.
 
#40
In a way yea. Just mean that it's Oda who uses bounties in the manga to hype up people's powerlevels. Fans doing it is only natural.
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Zoro is a natural leader ? Lol
Natural born leaders are those with CoC

Then you have normal leaders which JINBEI Was, even Brook became captain of his old crew
Franky has led people prior Joining luffy and Sanji is a leader too...

Zoro has never led anyone , never had a gang of people he led prior joining.
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Nope
Sanji 1st bounty is bigger than Zoro first bounty
Sanji 2nd bounty is bigger than Zoro second bounty
And for their 3 rd bounties, currently Sanji has a bigger bounty than Zoro.


Vivi is a natural leader. Kohza is a natural leader. Sabo is a natural leader.. theres plenty of leaders without CoC.

Fleet admiral of the marines, hasn't shown CoC. Kuzan, who had majority of the marines backing him up for FA didnt have CoC.
Leadership and CoC are two different things.
CoC just means having the disposition (qualities) to be a King, it doesn't equate those without it not being born with qualities of a great leader.
 
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