Anime & Manga One Piece Spoilers - The Wailing Room

[TheAncientCenturion]

I love Sasuke, but calling him "complex" is wild

Its really not

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

This is literally why he’s a BBP cause he’s finally free to be just Kuzan. He doesn’t have to be an admiral nor does he have to be an evil pirate.

Being a Blackbeard Pirate makes the “I’m just me” saying make a lot of sense.

yeah. we've only seen part of blackbeard but i think the twist here is that kuzan really isn't infiltrating, him and blackbeard are actual allies with common goals

 

[Kerkovian]

Just some pointless reaction shit, I've not been paying attention so I dont know tbh.

No actual confirmed spoilers yet. Scotch hyped the chapter a little too.

Pew teased something with Luffy and Shanks, using a Nika/G5 Luffy pic too.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1757168487259156613

Thanks

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

Ngl I never tried tea with milk. It doesn't sound appetizing when imagining it.
If I were to ever try it, it would need to be in an environment where it is the norm, because then I'd know it's prepared as it should be. If I then don@t like it then it is what it is. But I don't wanna add milk to my chamomile tea and then end up disappointed lol

it only really works with strong black tea imo

 

[LayerZ]

People overthink and try to imagine Oda as a Togashi bis, but we all know the Aokiji sub-plot is as subtle as the backstory of Kaido.

I think he wanted a darth Vador in one piece and chosed Kuzan as simple as that .

 

[Kizaruber Eats]

People overthink and try to imagine Oda as a Togashi bis, but we all know the Aokiji sub-plot is as subtle as the backstory of Kaido.

Amen man, well said. Oda dropped the ball harder with Kaidos backstory than Kaido dropping in on the supernova alliance and how Onigashima was meant to drop too, sigh lol.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Well obviously but what does he want exactly?

Again, the entire reason Kuzan let Robin go in his own words was to see what she would be like when she grew up and if the government’s rhetoric about Robin being a devil that needed to be executed was correct.

It was essentially Kuzan testing the truth and word of the government.

Logically/narratively, the results of his experiment with Robin should tie into whatever his current objective is

Or he doesn’t have a greater objective. He isn’t antagonizing the marines or world government.

Honestly I don’t think any of the BBP beyond Blackbeard himself have grand dreams. They’re just all people who were given freedom by joining Blackbeard.

 

[.Charm.]

Dudes can't read... Smoker and Donquixote Doflamingo were talking about Kuzan being part of the underworld, NOT BLACKBEARD PIRATES!

 

[Dragon777]

We had fodder say it just like we had fodder say act 1 Luffy was laying out Kaido.

Queen was conscious the whole time and we see he was uninjured while he was bringing big mom to Kaido. Like saying he lost here when Big Mom was the one who ended up in sea prism is absolutely wild

More than the explicit statement, seeing Queen on the ground immobilized and shivering later in the cheater idk what to point out.

Queen was explicitly knocked out.

But, as I said, he wasn't KO because O Lin never finished him off. In the time O Lin had a walk around the prison, Queen got on his feet again.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

More than the explicit statement, seeing Queen on the ground immobilized and shivering later in the cheater idk what to point out.

Queen was explicitly knocked out.

But, as I said, he wasn't KO because O Lin never finished him off. In the time O Lin had a walk around the prison, Queen got on his feet again.

He was literally listening to the conversation between Big Mom and Luffy while he was “Passed out”

He was never unconscious. He was formulating a plan to take her out

 

[KHAN]

By the way admirals bros, it's really joever isn't it ? Now we have to wait for the entrance of the great soldiers of Moon man to be completely overshadowed.

I think he wanted a darth Vador in one piece and chosed Kuzan as simple as that .

well it's a possibility, to be honest I would prefer that than simply assisting to a ridiculous twist that absolutely everybody realised years before.

 

[Kizaruber Eats]

Anything beside fraudon hints yet?

I just hope this not Pew talking randomly and an actual hint for the chapter, I'll be so upset if its not about the chapter lmao.

I don't see Shanks appearing ofc but surely Dorry and Broggy will mention him and say he wants to meet Luffy FINALLY?! Him and Yasopp will finally stop being cowardly bitches and having colder feet than Kuzan and Monet?!

 

[Redboy776]

I hope for you guys because if zoro do nothing in this chapter I will myself feel bad .

stop pretending to be hurt, you arent fooling anyone. zoro will prevail anyway. oda definitely had something planed, we just let him cook.

 

[Dragon777]

He was literally listening to the conversation between Big Mom and Luffy while he was “Passed out”

He was never unconscious. He was formulating a plan to take her out

That is way I said Queen was knocked out, but not KO, as we were told.

BM didn't finish him off, so he was simply unable to move for some time, but not unconscious.

 

[Kizaruber Eats]

Yet the 10 titanic captains were already a thing back in Dressrosa.

Yeah thats what really confused me. They didnt regard him as one back then, they were spoken of as seperately to Kuzan?

Kuzan being a captain just feels so forced/sudden.

 

[LayerZ]

stop pretending to be hurt, you arent fooling anyone. zoro will prevail anyway. oda definitely had something planed, we just let him cook.

im not pretending yes im trolling the hell out of Zoro fans and their teories but I have nothing againts the guy . IN facts he is one of my favorite in one piece . He just is way too overated by his fans .

 

[Francher Styles]

People overthink and try to imagine Oda as a Togashi bis, but we all know the Aokiji sub-plot is as subtle as the backstory of Kaido.

Except Laido only appear in one fricking arc, Aokiji has been with us since Water 7/Robin backstory! And now is part of the final saga.

That Oda put more efforts in Admirals than Lonkos characters, isn't my problem.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

That is way I said Queen was knocked out, but not KO, as we were told.

BM didn't finish him off, so he was simply unable to move for some time, but not unconscious.

That makes no since. The fodder thought Queen was knocked unconscious you can’t be both knocked out and conscious. Queen was clearly able to move and conscious but just creating a plan which is why as soon as he got up he put his plan into motion and captured big mom.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Or he doesn’t have a greater objective. He isn’t antagonizing the marines or world government.

Honestly I don’t think any of the BBP beyond Blackbeard himself have grand dreams. They’re just all people who were given freedom by joining Blackbeard.

But then what did Doffy mean when he said Kuzan has the look of a “man determined to do something.”

Also, reread O’Hara and look at Kuzan’s progression.

He follows passionate justice and treats the government as law.

He views atrocities and lets Robin go to test if the government’s dogma is correct.

While his experiment with Robin is ongoing he follows lazy justice as he is unsure.

Now he is passionate again and separate from the marines.

There clearly is SOME objective he is pursuing and it is like related to the WG’s history imo

 

[Etzel Andergast]

Thats EXACTLY what I argued on here recently, Shanks or Revs would make far more sense. Kuzan left the WG and Marines due to sheer corruption supposedly but joins the MOST corrupt pirate crew? The worst criminals? LMAO WTF?!

I can only excuse it that Kuzan might be Somalian like Blackbeard supposedly is and or he sees BB as some kind of kindred spirit, they have some kind of understanding somehow OR hes actually undercover, on his own agenda or for the Marines.

He does have the most freedom with Blackbeard, for better and for worse but hes literally aiding people who are just as evil and corrupt as the worst of the Marines and the WG itself entirely.

He helped to take down his former mentor and almost got him killed. I know he went from fired up justice to lazy justice post Ohara and was very shaken up by it ofc but I wish Oda would let us see or hear more about Kuzan vs Akainu so we can get a much better idea into Kuzans reasoning/motivations/character etc. Or even more of a flashback for him in general at least.

Another reason not getting to see him face Kizaru or any Admiral on screen is a letdown and the fact that he and Garp didnt talk as much as they should have, especially given their history and the whole Akainu becoming Fleet Admiral and yet Kuzan was the recommended choice and fought him for it, Garp trained Kuzan and I'm sure Akainu looks up to Garp and wants to be like him in some way, he was surely trained by him with his fighting style at least.

Idk man, to me, Kuzan just feels so messily written, so mishandled. I'm trying to give Oda time, but we've waited SO MANY years for SO LITTLE at this point, its tiring.

At least Kuzan showing remorse over Garp almost being killed was great but I would love Kuzan to have more interactions with Koby and thus comments/opinions on him as Garps official new protege/successor too. I guess maybe in future we'll see it but this would have been the perfect timing and yet Oda rushed it so much, when he gave us SO LONG for the fucking Oden and Kuma flashbacks, sigh.

We've still barely seen anything of the God Valley incident at this point too, thanks Oda.

1)Actually Kuzan is japanese
2)I would hate if his is just undercover. For me this would trash the character, just a typical shonen writing
3) There are some characters that oda makes a puzzle along the story to explain in the end game, for instance, Kuma. Now we know everyrhing about Kuma, but before was a puzzle. Kuzan will be the same (I'm not saying he gonna have a flashback, I dont think he will)