Powers & Abilities The Gorosei are afraid of the incoming Gomu Gomu awakening

#22
a little patience , matter of days or weeks and we will know what they fear, arguing about it is really waste of time so let us just be patient and enjoy the coming chapters.
 
#26
Listen buddy, Luffy has been fighting for a very long time, they never ever feared he would Awaken
He fought Crocodile, Lucci, Moria, Impel Down, Marineford, Kuma, Doflamingo, Big Mom Pirates ... etc
And yet WG never mentioned this Scenario where Luffy Awakens

What they are afraid of is Kaidou & his DF
Worst Case Scenario is "Kaidou's Death" which would trigger something Catastrophic

His DF is extremely important, it made him have a Life Time Debt for Big Mom
CP-0 said that they hope Vegapunk's Artificial DF is truly a Failure cuz it would shake the World if it's not
Momo who is Hyped to be the one to start the Dawn ate same DF as Kaidou
Where did Kaidou eat his? It was in God's Valley, the same place where Rocks Pirates, Roger Pirates & Celestial Dragons met

Can't you see that this Arc has been building up for a Mind Blowing Reveal about Kaidou's DF?
U really think that it's just a DF to create Clouds & Breath Fire?

CP-0 were prepared in case Kaidou loses in first place
Lucci brought an entire Army in case Luffy wins, so they are not really afraid if Luffy proves to be too strong
However they also said "We doubt Kaidou loses"

But now, they are starting to have doubts & they are afraid of what might happen to Kaidou's DF if he dies
That's why they are asking CP-0 to help Kaidou kill Luffy
They fear Kaido awakening.
Let's see now. Are the Elders afraid of

A). The World's Strongest Creature's powerful dragon Zoan fruit awakening and reeking havoc

Or

B). Monkey D Luffy's Rubber paracemia fruit awakening...

Tough choices ngl
Kaido's fruit is definitely an Azure Dragon tho. How would you explain the name change it has undergone thanks to the WG?
And why would all of this happen cause of Zoan awakening? Even though Kaido's fruit is the most stat heavy Zoan, it still follows the rules of a Zoan, so it's very predictable what's to come.

Add that the Cp0 guy should act before the worst thing happens, means that the fruit is not awakened yet. I highly doubt that we are now going to experience how Kaido gets his awakening after years of being a top tier already, especially cause it would automatically mean that Luffy's fruit was not the one that was meant, ergo Luffy prolly wouldn't get awakening, therefore he would get outmatched again and the whole alliance is fucked.

Put all of this together with the stuff that WsW talked about and it's much more likely that it's Luffy's fruit that was meant and therefore he's also the one that needs to be eliminated before his fruit awakenes.
 
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#27
Kaido's fruit is definitely an Azure Dragon tho. How would you explain the name change it has undergone thanks to the WG?
And why would all of this happen cause of Zoan awakening? Even though Kaido's fruit is the most stat heavy Zoan, it still follows the rules of a Zoan, so it's very predictable what's to come.

Put all of this together with the stuff that WsW talked about and it's much more likely that it's Luffy's fruit that was meant and therefore he's also the one that needs to be eliminated, even if he's right now facing Kaido.
Answer this very simple question
Why didn't Gorosei give such order when Luffy was fighting Crocodile? or Lucci? or invaded Enies Lobby? or Moria? or Kuma? or caused trouble in Sabaody? or Invaded Impel Down? or Marineford? or Doflamingo?

U think it took them years & thousand Chapters to finally figure out Luffy must not be allowed to Fight?
The New Event that Gorosei didn't witness before is Kaidou being close to Death (After he escaped Punk Hazard)

It's possible that Gorosei are afraid of something that might happen if Kaidou dies
For example, it's the only DF in the World which there are Two Copies of (Kaidou & Momo)
So what if when Kaidou dies, his DF doesn't respawn & actually gets absorbed by Momo
What if something Awakens when you mix Two Azure Dragons

What if there is something in Wano that is activated with the Soul of Powerful DF (Which is only available shortly after User dies)
We still don't know the full mystery of Devil Fruits, so you can't just say "Kaidou's DF is just a Zoan"

CP-0 clearly said that they are so lucky Vegapunk's DF was a Failure
Clearly hinting at a Hidden Power that Azure Dragon have

And you think Oda is gonna make Azure Dragon no different than Western Dragons?
So far we've only see him Roar, Breath Fire & Fly, you think that's the limit of what Oda imagined for such Creature?
Not to mention that the guy is heavily inspired by Dragon Ball

Kaidou is a Dragon
Momo is a Dragon
Luffy's Father is named Dragon & his Ship represents an Eastern Dragon
Shanks Ship also shows a Dragon
WG Leaders are called Celestial Dragons who are also treated as Gods
Kaidou's DF was found on God's Valley
... etc

Dragons are clearly special in One Piece, they aren't just Special for their Toughness
Kaidou being presented as Dragon Lord & King of Beasts clearly means that he have a Power that can endanger entire World
Luffy must be stopped at all costs before he triggers such Scenario

Another Hint is Kaidou's Death
You think he will die just like that, Head rolling on the Ground & no one to mourn for him except maybe Calamities

If Kaidou dies then 100% his Soul or DF gonna Activate something that will make them say something like: "What have we done !!!"
After all, the guy said "Only me can change the World"

So i imagine that if Kaidou is prevented from fulfilling his Destiny, something Chaotic is gonna befell the World or at least Wano Country.
Oda is even preparing for this outcome by making Momo hesitant to open the Borders

As for your argument regarding it's Naming
Kaidou's DF is called Fish Fish No Mi Model Blue Dragon, do you see how generic it is?
Just a Fish & named after a Color. Clearly WG don't want people to know that Dragon's True Name

For example, Sengoku's DF is named Buddha, not Golden Human, it's a Unique Name, so Kaidou's DF should follow suit
Also did u notice that Momo's Dragon is Pink? His DF is named "Azure" but he is Pink, don't u find that weird?
He have same Abilities as Kaidou & same Shape, only difference is Color & that made Vegapunk consider it a Failture

So clearly Azure Dragon isn't just some random Mythical Species, it's a Being who can change the World
And it's True Name became a Legend only known to very few

PS: It's obvious that Kaidou must be defeated at all costs, but Oda said that Wano Ending is Unexpected. All this time, we've seen Luffy's Victories make things better & fix problems, but what if this time, there is a Plot Twist & Kaidou's Defeat actually makes things much worse.

Oda also said that after Wano Arc, it's basically Endgame, and i don't think his Defeat is simply gonna start a New Era, cuz we already had that with WB. Not to mention that there is clearly something hidden in Wano, mentioned by Sengoku, Big Mom & Kaidou himself. If this thing never Awakened all this time, doesn't this mean that it requires a Trigger? I'd say it's Kaidou's Death or at least his DF
 
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#28
Answer this very simple question
Why didn't Gorosei give such order when Luffy was fighting Crocodile? or Lucci? or invaded Enies Lobby? or Moria? or Kuma? or caused trouble in Sabaody? or Invaded Impel Down? or Marineford? or Doflamingo?

U think it took them years & thousand Chapters to finally figure out Luffy must not be allowed to Fight?
The New Event that Gorosei didn't witness before is Kaidou being close to Death (After he escaped Punk Hazard)

It's possible that Gorosei are afraid of something that might happen if Kaidou dies
For example, it's the only DF in the World which there are Two Copies of (Kaidou & Momo)
So what if when Kaidou dies, his DF doesn't respawn & actually gets absorbed by Momo
What if something Awakens when you mix Two Azure Dragons

What if there is something in Wano that is activated with the Soul of Powerful DF (Which is only available shortly after User dies)
We still don't know the full mystery of Devil Fruits, so you can't just say "Kaidou's DF is just a Zoan"

CP-0 clearly said that they are so lucky Vegapunk's DF was a Failure
Clearly hinting at a Hidden Power that Azure Dragon have

And you think Oda is gonna make Azure Dragon no different than Western Dragons?
So far we've only see him Roar, Breath Fire & Fly, you think that's the limit of what Oda imagined for such Creature?
Not to mention that the guy is heavily inspired by Dragon Ball

Kaidou is a Dragon
Momo is a Dragon
Luffy's Father is named Dragon & his Ship represents an Eastern Dragon
Shanks Ship also shows a Dragon
WG Leaders are called Celestial Dragons who are also treated as Gods
Kaidou's DF was found on God's Valley
... etc

Dragons are clearly special in One Piece, they aren't just Special for their Toughness
Kaidou being presented as Dragon Lord & King of Beasts clearly means that he have a Power that can endanger entire World
Luffy must be stopped at all costs before he triggers such Scenario

Another Hint is Kaidou's Death
You think he will die just like that, Head rolling on the Ground & no one to mourn for him except maybe Calamities

If Kaidou dies then 100% his Soul or DF gonna Activate something that will make them say something like: "What have we done !!!"
After all, the guy said "Only me can change the World"

So i imagine that if Kaidou is prevented from fulfilling his Destiny, something Chaotic is gonna befell the World or at least Wano Country.
Oda is even preparing for this outcome by making Momo hesitant to open the Borders

As for your argument regarding it's Naming
Kaidou's DF is called Fish Fish No Mi Model Blue Dragon, do you see how generic it is?
Just a Fish & named after a Color. Clearly WG don't want people to know that Dragon's True Name

For example, Sengoku's DF is named Buddha, not Golden Human, it's a Unique Name, so Kaidou's DF should follow suit
Also did u notice that Momo's Dragon is Pink? His DF is named "Azure" but he is Pink, don't u find that weird?
He have same Abilities as Kaidou & same Shape, only difference is Color & that made Vegapunk consider it a Failture

So clearly Azure Dragon isn't just some random Mythical Species, it's a Being who can change the World
And it's True Name became a Legend only known to very few

PS: It's obvious that Kaidou must be defeated at all costs, but Oda said that Wano Ending is Unexpected. All this time, we've seen Luffy's Victories make things better & fix problems, but what if this time, there is a Plot Twist & Kaidou's Defeat actually makes things much worse.

Oda also said that after Wano Arc, it's basically Endgame, and i don't think his Defeat is simply gonna start a New Era, cuz we already had that with WB. Not to mention that there is clearly something hidden in Wano, mentioned by Sengoku, Big Mom & Kaidou himself. If this thing never Awakened all this time, doesn't this mean that it requires a Trigger? I'd say it's Kaidou's Death or at least his DF
Hell Ryuma legend is him slaying a Dragon. No way dragons are just some random creatures in the world. They have to have some kind of importance to the story
 
#29
Answer this very simple question
Why didn't Gorosei give such order when Luffy was fighting Crocodile? or Lucci? or invaded Enies Lobby? or Moria? or Kuma? or caused trouble in Sabaody? or Invaded Impel Down? or Marineford? or Doflamingo?

U think it took them years & thousand Chapters to finally figure out Luffy must not be allowed to Fight?
The New Event that Gorosei didn't witness before is Kaidou being close to Death (After he escaped Punk Hazard)

It's possible that Gorosei are afraid of something that might happen if Kaidou dies
For example, it's the only DF in the World which there are Two Copies of (Kaidou & Momo)
So what if when Kaidou dies, his DF doesn't respawn & actually gets absorbed by Momo
What if something Awakens when you mix Two Azure Dragons

What if there is something in Wano that is activated with the Soul of Powerful DF (Which is only available shortly after User dies)
We still don't know the full mystery of Devil Fruits, so you can't just say "Kaidou's DF is just a Zoan"

CP-0 clearly said that they are so lucky Vegapunk's DF was a Failure
Clearly hinting at a Hidden Power that Azure Dragon have

And you think Oda is gonna make Azure Dragon no different than Western Dragons?
So far we've only see him Roar, Breath Fire & Fly, you think that's the limit of what Oda imagined for such Creature?
Not to mention that the guy is heavily inspired by Dragon Ball

Kaidou is a Dragon
Momo is a Dragon
Luffy's Father is named Dragon & his Ship represents an Eastern Dragon
Shanks Ship also shows a Dragon
WG Leaders are called Celestial Dragons who are also treated as Gods
Kaidou's DF was found on God's Valley
... etc

Dragons are clearly special in One Piece, they aren't just Special for their Toughness
Kaidou being presented as Dragon Lord & King of Beasts clearly means that he have a Power that can endanger entire World
Luffy must be stopped at all costs before he triggers such Scenario

Another Hint is Kaidou's Death
You think he will die just like that, Head rolling on the Ground & no one to mourn for him except maybe Calamities

If Kaidou dies then 100% his Soul or DF gonna Activate something that will make them say something like: "What have we done !!!"
After all, the guy said "Only me can change the World"

So i imagine that if Kaidou is prevented from his fulfilling his Destiny, something Chaotic is gonna befell the World or at least Wano Country.
Oda is even preparing for this outcome by making Momo hesitant to open the Borders
You act like there is no meta lvl story telling going on though.
Oda most likely timed it like that, cause it builds up the most suspense and has the highest shock value, while in story it will be a requirement for actually beating Kaido in a justifiable way.

All in all Oda can write his way around Luffy not having a rubber fruit, prolly even has a sound explanation for it, whereas he cannot write his way around Kaido not being an Azure Dragon or not being a Zoan, as those fruits have specific transformations, that clearly indicate the fruit that's used, which in Kaido's case clearly points to an Azure Dragon.

The rest is honestly just blabbering.
 
#32
WG afraid of both Kaido and Luffy's DF, but in the recent chapter i believe it Luffy's.

Kaido's DF indeed powerful, but from Who's Who and Shanks backstory it kinda make things clear that Gomu Gomu hold something importance that gonna shake WG to the core.

but i prefer Zunisha than both Kaido or Luffy's lmao
 
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#37
They are afraid that Luffy will beat Kaidou, becoming even more of a threat to the world government than he already is.
So they want the Cp0 guy to kill Luffy in case Luffy wins.
They didn't say anything about Luffy's devil fruit.
 
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Herrera95

#40
It still can be Kaido's awakening since Luffy is pushing him to a high diff fight. But that would be even worse writting than Luffy's DF being special since we already had the build up from Who's Who.
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Luffy unlocked advanced COA and COC this arc. Awakening is a bit excessive.
Complain to Oda.
 
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