Controversial The most bogus title in One Piece - WSS

[Zenos7]

I agree except it's better to call the title "WGS", so we can separate that nonsense from "Strongest" titles.

The title is first mentioned as "Ichi no Dai Kengou", not "Saikyo".

Later on they spread that "Saikyo" nonsense even though there is only 1 same title, not 2 different titles, and VIZ even translated "Saikyo" WGS to prevent any confusions because it's the same 1 title. Both Anime sub and Anime dub also translated "Saikyo" WGS.

The same title is also called "Dai Kengou" later on in the manga as well:

Official VIZ even translated Saikyo WGS

Other non-official manga translator translate Saikyo WGS:

Anime sub translate Saikyo WGS:

Anime dub translate Saikyo WGS:

congrats, this doesnt change any of the implications that come with WSS though. so this is kind of in vain

 

[Zenos7]

And what the fuck you think is the difference?

Sekai ichi no Dai keingou is the same shit.
It Literally means #1 great swordmaster of the world

he is just desperately grasping at straws

 

[Konstantis]

Oda lives in present hype. He hyped WB and Kaido and then made them frauds once their saga ended. It is unlikely mihawk will show strongest feats imo. We shall see.

No, because WB said that real enemy(FV) was WG not Younko, at Marinford. It was simple as that

 

[Juanpiz]

Lol

 

[Blazing Lion]

Super copium thread
Imu not being a swordsman doesn't change a thing for Shanks/Rocks/Roger/Shamrock crowd.
The weird thing is that Imu has a naginata like WBs as his weapon but summons swords to finish his enemies. Omen is Imus military might, he has a full arsenal of weapons at his disposal but chooses swords as his finishers. Sword agenda reigns supreme.

 

[Loki D. Terror]

No, because WB said that real enemy(FV) was WG not Younko, at Marinford. It was simple as that

? What has that to do with anything with what I said?

 

[Crow]

More bogus than World's Strongest Creature and World's Strongest Man.

Never ask a sword swallower
- when Mihawk got the title
- what or who he beat for it
- whether he had it while going winless against Shanks

Of all the most bullshit titles in One Piece, this one is the most bullshit.

I'm sorry, my eyes are so bad nowadays so help me out.

What did Oda, the author of One Piece, write there over two decades ago?

 

[Konstantis]

? What has that to do with anything with what I said?

You said that Oda lived in that present hype, but in reality he was just lying. He knew that Kaido would never be called the strongest. But he needed to establish Luffy's position as Yonko.

 

[Loki D. Terror]

You said that Oda lived in that present hype, but in reality he was just lying. He knew that Kaido would never be called the strongest. But he needed to establish Luffy's position as Yonko.

I don't think he was lying at that moment. I doubt imu even existed in oda's mind back then. Definitely not in pre skip.

 

[Konstantis]

I don't think he was lying at that moment. I doubt imu even existed in oda's mind back then. Definitely not in pre skip.

I disagree, Gorosei was always names for Planets names. So Earth should exist, plus Masson Pyramid anamogy always has meaning of the Shadow King hiding behind.

I was speculating about some WG King after Ohara's flashback. Gorosei as FV didn't make sence because all of them was equel

 

[GrandmasterChef Zonji]

More bogus than World's Strongest Creature and World's Strongest Man.

Never ask a sword swallower
- when Mihawk got the title
- what or who he beat for it
- whether he had it while going winless against Shanks

Of all the most bullshit titles in One Piece, this one is the most bullshit.

How is that a bogus title while you can't even answer the same question regarding WSC and WSM
biased as always

 

[Rumble]

Whitebeard as World’s Strongest Man = well, no one knows of Imu, Whitebeard is a man, and he was given the title when Roger was still alive, not bogus.

Kaidō as World’s Strongest Creature = well, he’s an Oni, no one knows of Imu, his title doesn’t contradict WB’s title, not bogus.

Mihawk as World’s Strongest Swordsman = well, see, what happened was

 

[GrandmasterChef Zonji]

Whitebeard as World’s Strongest Man = well, no one knows of Imu, Whitebeard is a man, and he was given the title when Roger was still alive, not bogus.

Kaidō as World’s Strongest Creature = well, he’s an Oni, no one knows of Imu, his title doesn’t contradict WB’s title, not bogus.

Mihawk as World’s Strongest Swordsman = well, see, what happened was

See u clearly had biased Arguments.
Ignoring ur own arguments is funny.
Who did WB beat to become WSM? and who did Kaido beat to become WSC? as your 2nd argument
They didn't had notable wins against anybody or score to settle since their Rival literally still Alive at that time especially WB as your 1st and 3rd arguments lol. Unless u are saying that WB defeat someone stronger than Roger or Garp lol.
and for the 1st Argument on Kaido, When did he become WSC?
U don't even know

 

[Vanlax]

As I've said before, I think Big News Morgan gave him the title just like Pirate King and 5th Emperor Luffy.

Mihawk and Shanks were known to be rivals.

Shanks was seen with one arm.
Mihawk was seen with his blade in different color.

1 + 1, Big Agenda Morgan strikes again!

Bogus as how Mihawk got the title, sure I agree.
Bogus as he isn't the WSS? I disagree.

I think Mihawk shares the title with Shanks.
Or else he would just challenge Shanks instead of finding someone stronger than Shanks.

 

[StocksInMihawk]

World's Strongest Swordsman is the most valid title in One Piece

Oda verified Vivre Cards confirm Mihawk is the strongest in title and in truth

Whitebeard and Kaido have ZERO Oda confirmation of their titles, they're both FRAUDS

Mihawk would beat Imu in a sword fight, that it

Cry about it, cope about it, do whatever

 

[StocksInMihawk]

I don't even know why Kaido is brought up

Oda always gave himself plausible deniability with Kaido's title

It is basically just fodders seeing Kaido and saying "no one can beat that oni", that's it, that's the title

 

[сука]

I would imagine that posting a panel of Imu using pure fencing skill to one shot bitch ass Nikka would work against your interest when trying to shit on Mihawk, but maybe I'm missing something

 

[swarna]

This fandom is braindead and hyperfixating on titles and technicalities.

Focus on what this story is about and what the main characters are meant to do by the end rather than technical arguments to credit or discredit different characters based on framing and your personal history of PTSD interacting with fans of other characters.

For example, I don't think Zoro's arc is complete if he can't at least match/exceed the sword attacks of other characters. It's irrelevant whether Imu or Shanks are swordsman or not, but their sword attacks are highly relevant. And for Mihawk to have any relevance, he must also be able to do better than the sword attacks of other characters.

Again, if EoS Zoro can't replicate those sword feats with his swords...what are we doing here?

 

[MUUGEN]

Oda lives in present hype. He hyped WB and Kaido and then made them frauds once their saga ended. It is unlikely mihawk will show strongest feats imo. We shall see.

WB was never a fraud and neither was Kaido, he bodied everyone outside of shanks.

 

[Loki D. Terror]

WB was never a fraud and neither was Kaido, he bodied everyone outside of shanks.

Loki negs both at same time.