The motivation of personal interest in politics

Bob74h

Bob74h

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It's why gay people are generally left leaning as alot of republicans are anti gay so it's just within their interest to be leftist


Same thing applies to white young men
Leftists are very anti male and anti white screaming about white privilige and men being toxic

Yea, nobody wants to be told their inherently evil so guess what ends up happening
oh yea they join the right wing

And leftists go like why, it's because your appealing to black and trans people at the exclusion and detriment of white people

It's the same thing with the kkk, if all you do is hate black people
your going to attract solely white people as self interest dictates black people wont side with people who hate them

And it's not even like people are siding one way or another cause they agree with banning guns,abortion or whatever
It's because the left and the right just make sure to exclude people based on the bad character traits

for liberals. being white straight men is the ultimate evil
and for the rightists, it's some transgender femminist
 
BleakAsh

BleakAsh

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That might be a pocket of leftest extremists and far right twits and this all stems from hypebole on both ends.. But that doesn't mean all liberals pertain to the extremes.. Its ironic coz they (the extremes) also promote all-inclusivity but unless or until you fit their definitions you're out of the equation.

For a mainstream example
Take for instance all this toxic masculinity bull, if they were this inclusive you'd have MEN supporting it but as long as you u don't meet their standards you're as good as any opposition.

What motivation do laymen need. I think this is a universal phenomenon.. If you promote an exteme there ultimately would be an exteme formed against it to cancle it out.. Like an anti-eqalibrium.

Why do u think Red pill became a thing amidst all this woke bs which for sometime has been a tade mark of the left.
 
Bob74h

Bob74h

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right wing people are very clearly


anti gay


adam how can you remotely think the right wing aint anti gay


they say it
all the time
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Adam 🍎 said:
Both of them are far right lol

Esp Matt
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alex jones and nick fuentas are more far right if anything


they just repeat the typical garbage of conservatives



you know, the transgenderism bad cause science but evolution should be ignored


and freedom of speech except if you wanna fuck someone of the sex which case you should be arrested
 
Monkey D Theories

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Bob74h said:
Same thing applies to white young men
Leftists are very anti male and anti white screaming about white privilige and men being toxic
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The left is neither anti White nor anti male. If you look at the data, I’m pretty sure most true leftists(as opposed to liberals) are white.

The left simply critiques systems of white supremacy and patriarchy, which adversely harm people of color and women.

Those young white men who support the right do so, because quite frankly, they find ideas rooted in white supremacy or patriarchy to be appealing.
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In America, Black and indigenous people have been historically oppressed. For many generations, black people were viewed as literal property. And in the civil war, half of america went to war to defend their supposed right to subjugate black people.

When black people were finally given basic human rights, they faced terrorism and legal discrimination that barred them from gaining wealth. That went on till the 60s when civil rights happened.

But keep in mind that despite LBJ doing civil rights, there were MANY Americans who were completely opposed to civil rights. What do you think they did after that?

They elected Nixon and Reagan who did the war on drugs, leading to the mass incarceration of black people. Not to mention Reagan literally putting the drugs in black neighborhoods because of the whole thing with the contras.

So when you hear people on the left talking about systemic racism, this is it.
  • black people were severely harmed by slavery, legal discrimination, and white terrorism
  • The result of this created a significant wealth disparity between black and white Americans
  • This disparity still exists today and it is kept in place by systems of mass incarceration and unrestricted capitalism

That’s systemic racism. “White privilege” is the fact that white people are not negatively effected by systemic racism, but rather have benefited from it.
 
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Bob74h

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Monkey D Theories said:
The left is neither anti White nor anti male. If you look at the data, I’m pretty sure most true leftists(as opposed to liberals) are white.
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they can be self hating white people
I seen them

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/14/style/white-guilt-privilege.html



What does there being white people in a group really prove about racism
it's like saying, republicans cant dislike black people because some of the right wingers are black people



Monkey D Theories said:
The left simply critiques systems of white supremacy and patriarchy, which adversely harm people of color and women.
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no such thing occurs
the very fact were even having this conversion right now and most people generally agree racism and sexism are bad

just shows the kinda social setting, we live under not racist or patrichrical


And the arguments had for such beliefs are resting entirely on belief and would hold up to scrutiny
such as black people not being that wealthy on average which while true also applies to white people meaning it's not something specfically affecting black people


the arguments, i have heard from this position are very stupid and seem to lack cognitive awareness of the actual world we live under



Monkey D Theories said:
Those young white men who support the right do so, because quite frankly, they find ideas rooted in white supremacy or patriarchy to be appealing.
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no
it's because generally the right wing is not calling them evil and toxic for being a white male


think about it
if your a young male and you have one side who detests your very existence and wants to have guilt for being white


and you have another side who proclaims to support young men like jordon peterson is the hero to these men
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wi4nooqga6I

Would you wanna join, people who advocate for your best interest or people who preach about all men dying
https://www.inc.com/suzanne-lucas/huffpost-editor-says-new-years-resolution-is-to-kill-all-men.html


The right wing preys the young men without a cause and brings them to their group, and supports them where leftists would not cause men are toxic and priviliged bastards, who cause nothing but pain


Ironic part about this tactic
Leftist use the same tactic for recriutment


they say this side hates you but we love and support you women,gay,black or whatever group


and leftists will spreg at peterson for supporting incels when they themselves are supporting people they see as disadvantaged
yknow like what right wingers do except it's different cause liberal do it ig


Monkey D Theories said:
In America, Black and indigenous people have been historically oppressed. For many generations, black people were viewed as literal property. And in the civil war, half of america went to war to defend their supposed right to subjugate black people.

When black people were finally given basic human rights, they faced terrorism and legal discrimination that barred them from gaining wealth. That went on till the 60s when civil rights happened.
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Jim crow laws and slavery have been over with for decades now
the fact, you cant cite anything as discriminatory or bad in the modern day shows that this was just a historical issue and nothing more

with your side lighting up past racial tensions to get votes and support from black people who ofc will side with you because you make white people out to be the badguy like the nazis did with the jews to garner support


and btw, I mean im to agree
things in the past were not the greatest of course

but instead of using the past as a cudgel to start race wars
maybe just maybe, we should try to further what mlk stood for instead making everyone judge on race instead of character


You guys claim to stand for progress
but race relations have gotten worse not better
there's been poltitical violence then there was before
there's more everything bad

Nothing done by leftists have helped with society, same goes with right wingers
you guys just stoke conflict amongst people
 
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