General & Others The myth of reading an arc in a row

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#21
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wait what? some people are actually influenced in how they liked or disliked OP by random youtubers??
 
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Herrera95

#22
I am not sure which arc did you read . Why would he be polite against his sblings and father ? Since childhood, his male sblings made exploitation because he is weak. he throw the jail with head collar at least six month . why did you expect sanji should be polite against family . judge did not even allow to sanji to cry for his mom. Only hero figures for sanjis childhood are his mom and reiju. that is why sanji admire woman. this is his characterazation.

Sanji is a human being who rejects all his destiny in order to preserve his humanity , the only legacy his mother left him . Sanji accepted the gene modification even though he can lose his humanity. He only did this for his crew and the wano he promised. Although you say that his genes have been changed, in fact, the main reason why Sanji even accepts this is the kind and worth he gives to his friends. Sanji has never enjoyed using the raid suite either. But at the heart of the matter, no matter what we do, we cannot change where we come from. But we decide for ourselves who we will be. This is Sanji's character motivation.

Let's come to the fights at WCI. I don't want to prolong this. But you have to understand this. The theme and everything of the WCI arc has been designed according to its cooking abilities. Sanji's main job is as a cook. So it was very clear for Sanji that WCI would not be fight centered . We may not think the same. But from Oda's point of view, this is the case.

Temporarily neutralizing Yonkou by making cakes and saving everyone = Zoro saving supernovas . Both of them did what they had to do within their main duty.

Sanji is one of the two best written characters in one piece history. Everything will make more sense to you if you evaluate Sanji not as the main combatanant, but in terms of his own character traits.
Never said he needed to be polite, but kind. Since the whole arc is about how kind he is but his family is not. At the end Sanji is the one not kind and his family is the kind one.

One Piece is a battle manga it has to have battles. Everyone in the crew is a fighter even Nami, Usopp and Chopper. Sanji fought in his first character arc aka introduction why wouldn't he fought here? He fight every arc but unfortunately his post timeskip fights just suck and we never had oportunity to see his full potential until stupid power ups. What is the point of a power up if the character never reached his limit?

And Sanji accomplishes nothing from cooking at WCI.

Why the hell you brought Zoro into this? Zoro did much more them simply saving Supernovas. Sanji didn't needed to help Big Mom at all. That worked for nothing, at the end she still pursuit them and Jinbei had to save them again. Not Sanji.
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wait what? some people are actually influenced in how they liked or disliked OP by random youtubers??
Talking about me? I just said I enjoyed WCI better before watching his video pointing all missing points and shit writing that I agreed with.
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Sanji is a human being who rejects all his destiny in order to preserve his humanity , the only legacy his mother left him . Sanji accepted the gene modification even though he can lose his humanity. He only did this for his crew and the wano he promised. Although you say that his genes have been changed, in fact, the main reason why Sanji even accepts this is the kind and worth he gives to his friends. Sanji has never enjoyed using the raid suite either. But at the heart of the matter, no matter what we do, we cannot change where we come from. But we decide for ourselves who we will be. This is Sanji's character motivation.
I decided to answer this alone.

Sanji REJECT his gene modification because he could lose his humanity. He DESTROYED his Raid Suit because of it. He gave 0 fuck to what his crew needed which was a strong fighter at the moment because he was afraid of losing control. His entire actions and dialogue makes no fucking sense. He enjoed use Raid Suit right when he used for the first time.

Sanji has no motivation at all but women for gag purposes. Oda even killed his gentleman side by saying he wanted to hit Black Maria. This was as shit as Zoro saying he would bite King if he had too. At least Zoro is capable of give up his dream for his captain. Sanji is not capable of hitting women for his captain.
 
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Never said he needed to be polite, but kind. Since the whole arc is about how kind he is but his family is not. At the end Sanji is the one not kind and his family is the kind one.

One Piece is a battle manga it has to have battles. Everyone in the crew is a fighter even Nami, Usopp and Chopper. Sanji fought in his first character arc aka introduction why wouldn't he fought here? He fight every arc but unfortunately his post timeskip fights just suck and we never had oportunity to see his full potential until stupid power ups. What is the point of a power up if the character never reached his limit?

And Sanji accomplishes nothing from cooking at WCI.

Why the hell you brought Zoro into this? Zoro did much more them simply saving Supernovas. Sanji didn't needed to help Big Mom at all. That worked for nothing, at the end she still pursuit them and Jinbei had to save them again. Not Sanji.

Please , just open one threads and ask people : Is one piece battle manga :) If one piece had been battle manga, this manga should have finished ten years ago :)

Everyone in the crew can be fighter but this is side feature. Every crew members know how to fight but main role is different thing . They have to fight in some condition to come true their dreams.

Sanjis first introduction was at barathie. Remember there. Sanji could be killed by Gin . What happened ? Just say . And you will understand what is sanjis basic ability :)

Sanjis main role is not fighter. How many time we have to say that ?
Fishman Island - nobody did not get proper fights.
Punk Hazard - Sanji saved Kinemon , Tashigi and kids and gathering all marines . fits for sanji.
Dressrosa - Sanji made violet strawhat ally before out. Violet helped too much to SHs . fits for sanji.
Zou - Sanji made captain role and zou was saved . fits him.
WCI - sanji faced with his past. And he knocked out yonkou by making cake (main role) saved SHs.
Wano- Page 1 and X drake were dominated.
Onigashima - He developed his character more by showing trust his nakama. plus he saved momo , tama , alliances from prepero arrow. he fought two calamaties for a short time and he accept his fate . and he took down queen.

what do you want more ?
Sanji is not main combatant. All those of action that made by sanji during post arcs fits sanjis characterization.
 
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Please , just open one threads and ask people : Is one piece battle manga :) If one piece had been battle manga, this manga should have finished ten years ago :)

Everyone in the crew can be fighter but this is side feature. Every crew members know how to fight but main role is different thing . They have to fight in some condition to come true their dreams.

Sanjis first introduction was at barathie. Remember there. Sanji could be killed by Gin . What happened ? Just say . And you will understand what is sanjis basic ability :)

Sanjis main role is not fighter. How many time we have to say that ?
Fishman Island - nobody did not get proper fights.
Punk Hazard - Sanji saved Kinemon , Tashigi and kids and gathering all marines . fits for sanji.
Dressrosa - Sanji made violet strawhat ally before out. Violet helped too much to SHs . fits for sanji.
Zou - Sanji made captain role and zou was saved . fits him.
WCI - sanji faced with his past. And he knocked out yonkou by making cake (main role) saved SHs.
Wano- Page 1 and X drake were dominated.
Onigashima - He developed his character more by showing trust his nakama. plus he saved momo , tama , alliances from prepero arrow. he fought two calamaties for a short time and he accept his fate . and he took down queen.

what do you want more ?
Sanji is not main combatant. All those of action that made by sanji during post arcs fits sanjis characterization.
99% of arcs we have Luffy fighting main villain and winning.

Imagine not being a battle manga.
 
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Nah, all the arcs are good, they have some details which are stupid, but it doesnt make the whole story bad.

If you want to see the bad details, you will.
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Heck, the guy even introduces his video as explaining why it is bad... since that is what he saw at the moment, but seeing that some people has called it a great arc, he made the video so people can see why it isnt lol.

So he waisted 3 hours trying to explain to people who thinks that the arcs is good, it really isnt.
 
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Herrera95

#27
Nah, all the arcs are good, they have some details which are stupid, but it doesnt make the whole story bad.

If you want to see the bad details, you will.
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Heck, the guy even introduces his video as explaining why it is bad... since that is what he saw at the moment, but seeing that some people has called it a great arc, he made the video so people can see why it isnt lol.

So he waisted 3 hours trying to explain to people who thinks that the arcs is good, it really isnt.
What?

You probably don't even know him. He is making a series called the Downfall of One Piece. This is already the third video. His first was about all pre-timeskip, like 6 hours of video. Then he made another about post timeskip until Zou. Now we have WCI and later we will have Wano since it still needs to be finished at manga so he can properly finishes his video too.

He isn't trying to change anybody's mind, he is just explained what happened. It is not his take it is overall takes. A lot of people thinks similar to him. Even the ones who keep saying it is still great agrees that quality has dropped a lot since timeskip.
 
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Herrera95

#29
It's not a myth every manga is better to read in a row
Reading a story weekly is frustrating that's why I avoid to read mangas weekly but you can't do that with OP
Again, reading in a row you easily remember what happened few chapters before and notice mistakes made by mangaka. That doesn't happen so often with weekly reads.

By self experience I say that the things I like reading weekly didn't changed because I read in a row but the things I disliked did.
 
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Again, reading in a row you easily remember what happened few chapters before and notice mistakes made by mangaka. That doesn't happen so often with weekly reads.

By self experience I say that the things I like reading weekly didn't changed because I read in a row but the things I disliked did.
I'm not even talking about OP
Recently I read Kingdom, Sakamoto days and OPM each of them was better when I was trying to catch-up
Everyone around me prefer to not read mangas on a weekly basis
 
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Herrera95

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I'm not even talking about OP
Recently I read Kingdom, Sakamoto days and OPM each of them was better when I was trying to catch-up
Everyone around me prefer to not read mangas on a weekly basis
So you read not reread? This is not a proper evidence.

It is very simple, the story doesn't change if you read weekly or in a row. But in a row you catch more mistakes than reading weekly. It is good to read in a row because you enjoy for a longer time.

It is like eating a whole pizza as dinner or having one slice each week. The pizza is the same and you will notice more things you didn't liked in pizza eating as a whole than eating one slice per week.

By the way, OPM manga sucks. Webtoon way better.
 
#32
So you read not reread? This is not a proper evidence
I can't reread weekly something which is over
is very simple, the story doesn't change if you read weekly or in a row. But in a row you catch more mistakes than reading weekly. It is good to read in a row because you enjoy for a longer time.
If you enjoy it better when you read it in a row it means it's because mangas like every stories are meant to be read in a row
I'm not someone who read a story to look for mistakes

It is like eating a whole pizza as dinner or having one slice each week. The pizza is the same and you will notice more things you didn't liked in pizza eating as a whole than eating one slice per week.
If you it one slice a week you will find more mistakes as you take your time
 
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Herrera95

#33
I can't reread weekly something which is over

If you enjoy it better when you read it in a row it means it's because mangas like every stories are meant to be read in a row
I'm not someone who read a story to look for mistakes



If you it one slice a week you will find more mistakes as you take your time
I'm not saying you enjoy better when you read in a row. You enjoy longer because you don't read just a chapter but a few chapters.

Most people don't read looking for flaws, when you read in a row you find more flaws because you have fresh memory of past chapters. That doesn't happen when you read once a week since you forget about details and focus only on main content.

If One Piece was meant to be read by volumes or arcs they wouldn't release weekly chapters. Simple as that.
 
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