Current Events The New Generation vs Old Generation Battle

[rerere]

During this chapter the heads of the New Generation faced the two pillars of the Old Generation

Here are some question of cue:

- What do you expect from this battle?
- Will it be a 5 vs 2 or two 2 vs 1 with Law's support for both teams?
- Will someone die? If yes, who?
- Will they be enough or will someone arrive to help? If yes, who?

 

[RayanOO]

- Will someone die? If yes, who?

Don't think so - this is one piece ^^

And the A3 will likely survive post Wano. Law as no point dying now, maybe near the end but now I don't see the point. (D meaning, national treasure etc for Law etc). If someone has to sacrifice himself to heal Luffy it can be Marco.

I don't think Killer will die either.

And for Luffy and Zoro this is not even a question.

Will they be enough or will someone arrive to help? If yes, who?

They all need to PU hard to win this : we still didn't see BM and Kaido awakening etc. I think BM or Kaido will betray each other at some point. I don't think BM will be truely defeated here. The alliance won't last.

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Imo it will be
Luffy Zoro vs Kaido
Killer and kidd will take on même
Law will support them and be a big help

No one will die altho i could see them losing

It will be a hard battle for the yonkos

 

[Garp the Fist]

No, I don’t think it’ll be a straight 2 vs 2, 2 vs 2, Law helping situation. Big Mom is at least going to try to attack Luffy, and Kid the same for Kaido. It might end up that way, but for at least the start of the fight it will be a proper 5 vs 2.

Kaido is dying.

The only other combatant I could see joining in is Yamato. Since she’s narrating the big dramatic speech, it makes sense for her not to be there, and you’d think she has to have some sort of interaction with her father.

Anyone else, I don’t really see showing up. If they were going to join in, why not have them included here in the big dramatic moment, with Oden’s speech in the background? Everyone else has their tasks to deal with elsewhere, they don’t need to be involved here.

 

[rerere]

Btw Napoleon lost his final battle at Trafalgar and died at Waterloo..

 

[Finalbeta]

During this chapter the heads of the New Generation faced the two pillars of the Old Generation

Here are some question of cue:

- What do you expect from this battle?
- Will it be a 5 vs 2 or two 2 vs 1 with Law's support for both teams?
- Will someone die? If yes, who?
- Will they be enough or will someone arrive to help? If yes, who?

- The most epic clash so far occurred in the series. Not as long as Marineford, but more intense. That's the focal point.
- It shall be a 5v2. It's more advantageous than any other combo cause the novas can assist one another. If Kaido and Big Mom behave smart enough they can eventually try to mess this..
- I don't see anyone dying, it would be detrimental to the overall manga plot.
- I can only see Yamato to do so. Anyone else would get lashed out too easily by the yonko in my opinion.

 

[Paperchampion23]

During this chapter the heads of the New Generation faced the two pillars of the Old Generation

Here are some question of cue:

- What do you expect from this battle?
- Will it be a 5 vs 2 or two 2 vs 1 with Law's support for both teams?
- Will someone die? If yes, who?
- Will they be enough or will someone arrive to help? If yes, who?

Tbh, I think eventually Killer, Zoro and Law will be used in other important fights in the end, especially if the BMP become factors.

Luffy's proclamation in 1000 insinuates HE will surpass a Yonko. By getting help or receiving teamup assistance, it defeats the purpose of surpassing a Yonko tbh.

Now, I totally expect Zoro, Law and Killer to do signficant things before either being thrown off or taken out, but Kaido/Big Mom to me seem exactly like Luffy and Kid's actual, final battles in the end.

I'll say it again, if Sanji fights Queen, Zoro will fight King in the end, regardless of the feat performed on Kaido. We'll see how the next 10 chapters go

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Tbh, I think eventually Killer, Zoro and Law will be used in other important fights in the end, especially if the BMP become factors.

Luffy's proclamation in 1000 insinuates HE will surpass a Yonko. By getting help or receiving teamup assistance, it defeats the purpose of surpassing a Yonko tbh.

Now, I totally expect Zoro, Law and Killer to do signficant things before either being thrown off or taken out, but Kaido/Big Mom to me seem exactly like Luffy and Kid's actual, final battles in the end.

I'll say it again, if Sanji fights Queen, Zoro will fight King in the end, regardless of the feat performed on Kaido. We'll see how the next 10 chapters go

That would destroy the purpose of what Oden said and how much focus the 5 sn got

It's stated that those 5 will take down Kaido
Luffy cant defeat him alone

Zoro Killer Law's main fight are the yonkos

 

[Paperchampion23]

That would destroy the purpose of what Oden said and how much focus the 5 sn got

It's stated that those 5 will take down Kaido
Luffy cant defeat him alone

Zoro Killer Law's main fight are the yonkos

It doesnt defeat the purpose of what Oden said lol. If that's the case, then why aren't Drake, Bege, Apoo, Hawkins, Bonney or Urogue part of that idea?

They can still be intrinsic to other crew members being defeated, I.e. King, Queen, Smoothie, Snack, etc. That still puts them EXACTLY where Oden's prophecy leaves them, assisting in defeating 2 Yonko crews.

Agree to disagree, but I dont think Law/Zoro/Killer will at all deliver finishing blows to these Yonko, not in anyway that counts at least before they are defeated. They will have other important roles eventually

 

[Jackteo]

It will be a hard battle for the yonkos

 

[Ice devil slayer]

It doesnt defeat the purpose of what Oden said lol. If that's the case, then why aren't Drake, Bege, Apoo, Hawkins, Bonney or Urogue part of that idea?

They can still be intrinsic to other crew members being defeated, I.e. King, Queen, Smoothie, Snack, etc. That still puts them EXACTLY where Oden's prophecy leaves them, assisting in defeating 2 Yonko crews.

It's stated that they will bring Kaido down..those 5 will be the key to beat him

Marco can take on King while Sanji takes on Queen

There's like 0 reasons for Zoro Killer Law to fights ycs atm

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You can laugh all you want but it's true

 

[Paperchampion23]

It's stated that they will bring Kaido down..those 5 will be the key to beat him

Marco can take on King while Sanji takes on Queen

There's like 0 reasons for Zoro Killer Law to fights ycs atm

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You can laugh all you want but it's true

And yet, Big Mom is there too. You guys read and interpret everything as black and white.

Marco CAN take on King, doesnt mean Oda will dedicate a 2 chapter fight to Marco defeating King. You are all 100% jumping the gun on this idea that THOSE 5 have to be ones who defeat the Yonko.

 

[Ice devil slayer]

And yet, Big Mom is there too. You guys read and interpret everything as black and white.

Marco CAN take on King, doesnt mean Oda will dedicate a 2 chapter fight to Marco defeating King. You are all 100% jumping the gun on this idea that THOSE 5 have to be ones who defeat the Yonko.

Yes i believe that Marco will take down King

Can you pls tell who would the likes of Law and killer fight if it's not the yonkos ?

 

[Garp the Fist]

Btw Napoleon lost his final battle at Trafalgar and died at Waterloo..

Napoleon didn’t fight at Trafalgar and survived Waterloo

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Tbh, I think eventually Killer, Zoro and Law will be used in other important fights in the end, especially if the BMP become factors.

Luffy's proclamation in 1000 insinuates HE will surpass a Yonko. By getting help or receiving teamup assistance, it defeats the purpose of surpassing a Yonko tbh.

Now, I totally expect Zoro, Law and Killer to do signficant things before either being thrown off or taken out, but Kaido/Big Mom to me seem exactly like Luffy and Kid's actual, final battles in the end.

I'll say it again, if Sanji fights Queen, Zoro will fight King in the end, regardless of the feat performed on Kaido. We'll see how the next 10 chapters go

zoro battle and sanji's battle are in no way tied together like you continue to imply
statements like if this fights x then this has to fight y is offbeat



you have to consider certain things
queen and sanji looks ideal with the cyborg thing going on, knowing judge albeit a lot more than we think . already interested in sanji after seeing the bounties


zoro and king?
nothing
no interaction
no reason to go after him
to somehow think these characters including law and killer will be delegated to something else is funny. they aim to take down kaido and big mom, they dont have to land the finishing blow and if they dont
they will fall on the roof and let the others carry on.

gotta stick to your earlier matchups predictions I guess but it wont look good .

 

[Jackteo]

You can laugh all you want but it's true

Kaido was capable of oneshotting Luffy at the beginning of the arc without going all out. Law and Killer are without any doubt way below that Luffy.
With some major ass-pull Kid and Zoro might become as strong as him at the beginning of the arc.
And there are two Kaidos now

They might be able to defeat Kaido alone if Big Mom disappears and Marco joins them

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Kaido was capable of oneshotting Luffy at the beginning of the arc without going all out. Law and Killer are without any doubt way below that Luffy.
With some major ass-pull Kid and Zoro might become as strong as him at the beginning of the arc.
And there are two Kaidos now

They might be able to defeat Kaido alone if Big Mom disappears and Marco joins them

Welp that's how shonen goes
Even if it doesn't make sense atm
They will be able to give the yonkos à good fight

They're not getting washed

 

[rerere]

Napoleon didn’t fight at Trafalgar and survived Waterloo

Napoleon lost too many ships and had to give up Britain's invasion if I'm not wrong and even Waterloo was a loss for him, not sure if he died there or not tho

 

[Paperchampion23]

Yes i believe that Marco will take down King

Can you pls tell who would the likes of Law and killer fight if it's not the yonkos ?

If the Big Mom pirates become relevant again, which is possible, there you go, another 4-5 veteran/commander level fights.

And even if that doesn't happen, its not my point. Im saying they won't be the ones to defeat Kaido/Big Mom. That's Luffy and very likely Kid's role. Im honestly just trying to compromise and give the rest some relevant fights instead of being thrashed.

Guaranteed Zoro fans would be upset if:

- Zoro performs big feat against Kaido
- Kaido knocks out Zoro
- Luffy defeats Kaido

All while Sanji fights Queen and wins exclusively. Wouldnt you? You wouldn't be upset if Zoro never got a definitive fight, but lost to Kaido? Im pitching that Zoro STILL fights King otherwise lol. Kaido is Luffy's fight. That never will change lmao

 

[Jackteo]

Welp that's how shonen goes
Even if it doesn't make sense atm
They will be able to give the yonkos à good fight

They're not getting washed

Sweet summer child