Character Discussion The (Not-so) Great Debate: Did Saturn's explosives Hurt/Blow up Topman Warcury?

Did Saturn hurt Topman?

  • No

  • Yes, but not that much

  • Yes, he completely incinerated him


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#42
This is a topic that I've seen discussed a few times, I felt a proper thread was in order.

I personally think that the answer is yes, and there's a lot of obvious reasons.

First, Brogy's dialogue. "You blew them to bits". I doubt he'd be referring to Saturn and Peter's decapitated corpse(to his knowledge). Although, granted it's possible Brogy didn't see. The explosions were pretty large.

Second, I would say that zoomed in Topman face on the first page posted below is a dead give away that the move is going to deal damage. Pretty common trend in mangas/comics to feature close ups of characters before they get hammered. Saturn and Kuma is a prominent example early in the arc.

Third, the obvious one, the silhouette. I don't see why Oda would draw Topman in the same silhouette as Peter and Saturn who were definitely regenerating, if we were supposed to believe he wasn't hurt by that attack. Though I'll acknowledge that his silhouette doesn't appear that different from his regular appearance, unlike Saturn who's clearly regrowing legs. You could also argue that Oda didn't want to spoil the "reveal" of Topman's durability, but this is the guy that has shown he feels the need to spoonfeed a lot of basic concepts to his reader numerous times. Oda's not expecting his reader to make these kind of inferences lol.

Fourth, I think this clearly is Oda explaining to his readers what makes the Gorosei such terrifying. They all have access to regeneration, and no matter if they're obliterated, they'll regenerate. The glass cannon can regenerate, the sucker can regenerate, the guy who fucked up the economy can regenerate, and even the durability monster can regenerate.





thoughts? I'd be interested in hearing arguments on why Saturn didn't hurt them

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why dont people want to believe that saturn's attack is simply very powerful and strong enough to bypass topmans durability?
 

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#43
why dont people want to believe that saturn's attack is simply very powerful and strong enough to bypass topmans durability?
because people think Saturn is YC1 with regen and sub Tobbi Roppo without it lol

also it means Saturn could one shot Kaido and Big Mom
 
#49
I didn't think about it because I didn't remember Topman being there but it looked like they did, maybe it's because their powers are from Imu, so the explosives are technically from Imu even if working through someone with less strength so they have a weaker power level, but maybe attacks from Imu automatically bypass the gorosei's defence, so Topman was hurt by them,
 
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