General & Others The people who said Luffy didnt use ACoC when he clashed with Kizaru in base are in the mud
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It Is something that was said again and again.
AdvCoC usage Is usually shown with thicker lightnings that "go back" in the direction of the user.
Usually the scene Is like this: user > (lightnings have this form) target. Basically this ">" sign.
You can clearly see this against Kaido, for example.
100% now Is only when Oda confirms It since he Is totally unrealiable as said, but alas we can be more or less sure even in other situations.
For example, you talk about narrative for Zoro vs Lucci, and you are right. Now: we have Kizaru saying explicitly that he undestands why Luffy has beaten Kaido, a phrase that would have absolutely no sense if It was for AdvCoA only Luffy. I think we can agree on that: that was Oda saying Luffy was giving It all, literally.
Still, people came out with the weirdest takes to basically erase this simple statement.
I am sorry you took that this bad.
AdvCoC usage Is usually shown with thicker lightnings that "go back" in the direction of the user.
Usually the scene Is like this: user > (lightnings have this form) target. Basically this ">" sign.
You can clearly see this against Kaido, for example.
100% now Is only when Oda confirms It since he Is totally unrealiable as said, but alas we can be more or less sure even in other situations.
For example, you talk about narrative for Zoro vs Lucci, and you are right. Now: we have Kizaru saying explicitly that he undestands why Luffy has beaten Kaido, a phrase that would have absolutely no sense if It was for AdvCoA only Luffy. I think we can agree on that: that was Oda saying Luffy was giving It all, literally.
Still, people came out with the weirdest takes to basically erase this simple statement.
I am sorry you took that this bad.
Literally in the manga, even Sai released black lightning against Lao G. COA also produces black lightning, before advancing COC was introduced.
And all the panels I demonstrated were pure use of COA Level 2 (Koka, explained in the manga), without ACOC. All the panels with as much, or even more lightning coming out than the panel of Luffy against Kizaru.
And all the panels I demonstrated were pure use of COA Level 2 (Koka, explained in the manga), without ACOC. All the panels with as much, or even more lightning coming out than the panel of Luffy against Kizaru.
It was obviously ACOC. All the counter panels people show are always of 2 COC users clashing or 2 guys using COA hardening. Kizaru wasn't using hardening in that panel, and I could've sworn Admirals are forbidden from having COC apparently?
I mean seriously.....WSG to an unguarded Kizaru did no lasting damage. What's problem with Kiz blocking ACOC?
I mean seriously.....WSG to an unguarded Kizaru did no lasting damage. What's problem with Kiz blocking ACOC?
As I said, you might at well quote the pre-TS and say haki is invisibile then. After Oda invented AdvCoC and decided what its visuals were, that type of visuals was only used for AdvCoC.
You quote Luffy vs Kata; I quoted Luffy vs Kaido with Luffy using an extremely more advanced CoA (interna destruction) and still not one lightning was seen.
You quote Luffy vs Kata; I quoted Luffy vs Kaido with Luffy using an extremely more advanced CoA (interna destruction) and still not one lightning was seen.
In every fight, Oda doesn't draw the black lightning on every move, only on the most iconic ones, simply out of laziness. You might even be right, but we have no way of knowing. For now, we'll only know for sure when the requirements are met, as pointed out by @MonsterKaido
Imo this base kick and White Star Gun are the only times Luffy used ACoC on Egghead.
Not sure why people are freaking out over Kizaru blocking a base, DF-less kick from Luffy lol. Outside of ACoC, he literally couldn't use a weaker attack. It didn't even have ACoA as he physically touched Kizaru.
This was a super casual kick from Luffy, it's really not that deep.
Not sure why people are freaking out over Kizaru blocking a base, DF-less kick from Luffy lol. Outside of ACoC, he literally couldn't use a weaker attack. It didn't even have ACoA as he physically touched Kizaru.
This was a super casual kick from Luffy, it's really not that deep.
