General & Others The problem with Zkk
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Again this is surface-level as hell. First of all, this would be Oda showing us a unique situation, we'd have no real proof that Zoro couldn't do killing-damage to healthy Kaido, just that he didn't in this situation and it'd be ambiguous as to how Zoro would do if Luffy hadn't already beaten him.
Regardless, the point isn't to make Zoro God or Sword God-level in strength, it's to validate the idea that Zoro has more to give to the story and the OP world than just being strong; he'd be revered and remembered as a national treasure of Wano, a figure inspiring safety and relief to the people of Wano. Putting that finality down is important after 20 years of suffering, it gives Zoro's typically 1-dimensional strength more depth. Oda needs to give Zoro a unique importance as his role in the crew isn't often that necessary. Being the only swordsman, only he can kill Kaido. Everyone has their role in the crew, this is Zoro's.
Regardless, the point isn't to make Zoro God or Sword God-level in strength, it's to validate the idea that Zoro has more to give to the story and the OP world than just being strong; he'd be revered and remembered as a national treasure of Wano, a figure inspiring safety and relief to the people of Wano. Putting that finality down is important after 20 years of suffering, it gives Zoro's typically 1-dimensional strength more depth. Oda needs to give Zoro a unique importance as his role in the crew isn't often that necessary. Being the only swordsman, only he can kill Kaido. Everyone has their role in the crew, this is Zoro's.
Like I said before, the problem is not ZKK itself, what matters is how Oda will deliver ZKK without negating Luffy's effort or invalidating Zoro's code of honor.
Few scenarios that I can think of is if Luffy beats Kaido and Kaido ask for a execution, so Zoro might come in and execute him. Now, some people might debate that Zoro killed an defeated guy but then again, when you surrender and ask for death, there's nothing wrong with that since this is a pirate manga we're talking about.
Another scenario is when Luffy and Zoro's final combo against Kaido, some people might argue that Luffy did more or Zoro did more which is something that fans can't decide.
So these two scenarios above are the best ones that I can think of for ZKK. There could be more but eh.
Few scenarios that I can think of is if Luffy beats Kaido and Kaido ask for a execution, so Zoro might come in and execute him. Now, some people might debate that Zoro killed an defeated guy but then again, when you surrender and ask for death, there's nothing wrong with that since this is a pirate manga we're talking about.
Another scenario is when Luffy and Zoro's final combo against Kaido, some people might argue that Luffy did more or Zoro did more which is something that fans can't decide.
So these two scenarios above are the best ones that I can think of for ZKK. There could be more but eh.
I never doubted that Luffy will defeat Kaido and be declared the winner, but after that Kaido will still be alive and Luffy can't keep monitoring Kaido's actions, he must die to no longer be a concern.
There's a reason why Kaido lost 7 fights, but after 40 attempts he still hasn't been killed. Even defeated, his stamina remains the same, his immortality is attributed to his fruit and Zoro killing him is quite a feat.
On the contrary, treating Kaido with honor would be an insult to everyone who suffered at his hands.
There's a reason why Kaido lost 7 fights, but after 40 attempts he still hasn't been killed. Even defeated, his stamina remains the same, his immortality is attributed to his fruit and Zoro killing him is quite a feat.
On the contrary, treating Kaido with honor would be an insult to everyone who suffered at his hands.
Who else would kill Kaido? So far the only people we've heard of scarring Kaido or killing dragons are swordsmen. Specifically swordsmen Zoro has parallels with. We all know "defeating" Kaido is nothing special and has been done before, it won't truly bring Wano peace unless the creature who 'can't die' actually does so.
No he just went to the new world to continue doing evil, defeat isn't final. Besides for Crocodile it wasn't said on numerous occasions that he needs to die, his head needs to be taken, etc. He also isn't notable for being unkillable or wanting death. Using Crocodile, Lucci, Doffy etc only helps my point. Killing Kaido is the only way to truly stop him.
And this is the point 😂😂😂oda doesn’t care what u think it’s his story if he wants to hand the Mc a L and count it against him and have him get right back up he will lol if zkk is the end for kaido he will have luffy defeat kaido and he will get back up for the kill done by zoro u will just have to be mad that oda did it his way instead of yours lol
