Speculations The revolutionaries are setup to lose

#1
I believe that Dragon and the Revs will strike the holy lands soon and will attempt to destroy the WG once and for all.

But they won’t win, in fact they’ll lose big time and will take a massive L from Imu and the holy knights at Mariejoise.

Why? Because the Holy Knights and Imu are meant to be the final antagonist against the Straw hats at Laugh Tale
 
#8
The revolutionaries are set up to marijois sure but also BB crew since laffite was there Maybe there is a big war there between those 3 crews
 
#13
Dont worry
Good guys always win
Yes the straw hats will win after the revs are used as hype tools for Imu and the god knights
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They either end up fighting the WG before Luffy and lose or they join up with him and succeed
Their failure isn't a guarantee.
I don’t think they’ll join, because I think they’ll attack once Luffy is fighting BB and Akainu has rebelled against the CDs
Dragon will believe this is the perfect time to strike as the CDs have lost their military force
I don’t believe that the God Knights and Imu are stronger than the entirety of the marines, I just treat them as two different factions
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They'd win once they officially join the Luffy cheerleaders bandwagon.
They lose, the straw hats win later once Imu goes after the one piece.
I believe Imu fights Luffy at laugh tale
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revs and strawhats will attack new marineford next, not maryjoa
The straw hats won’t go back, they’ll just go forward
 
#14
Revs aren't going to outright lose or be destroyed at any point of the story. They're meant to be the plot device that explains how the world isn't just in complete chaos due to a power vacuum after the Celestial Dragons are overthrown. They'll have to help create the political body that comes after the current World Government, and help maintain the worldwide relationships between all these different countries.

As to why they have to be the ones to do it: No other group has the political legitimacy. Vivi as an individual is a great politician and a great speaker, but there's no way all the other kingdoms would just blindly listen to the commands of another country's royalty, no matter how good of a person they are.


They'll probably team up with the Straw Hats at some point once they're actually about to fight the Gorosei/Imu, with Luffy fighting Imu, but they'll probably lose one important person (likely Dragon) in a sacrificial manner, or something along those lines.
 
#17
I doubt it lol. Too much buildup and the leader of the organization is Luffy's father. And his right hand man? Luffy's brother.
They might not win but even if they don't win they're still going to heavily handicap their forces. And if Luffy and his goons are winning, then they'll topple the government outright.
 
#20
BBP definitely is lurking and going to third party the war between WG and Rev, they don't want any of them to win. Both WG and Rev will lose.
That’s where the straw hats come in, they’ll end up intercepting and fighting BB, while the revs fight the world government in the meantime and will lose.
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Sabo has been portrayed to take the mantle of the Head of the Revs soon.
Just this fact alone guarantees that the Revs won't lose
They will lose cause the MC is luffy not them
 
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