Powers & Abilities The secret power of SSG: forced DF awakening

[Monkey D Theories]

Spoiler

So in impel down you have a bunch of fodder characters, the jailer beasts, who somehow were able to achieve DF awakening. Given the immense gap in strength between them and doffy and katakuri, there's something eerily suspect about their awakening.

When you take into consideration Vegapunk's intensive knowledge on DFs, you can then connect the dots to see the bigger picture. Vegapunk has discovered a way to forcibly awaken DFs. We know this isn't entirely impossible. Chopper could manipulate his DF to degrees way beyond that of a normal zoan, possibly granting him awakening, by means of his rumble ball.

With his immense knowledge on lineage factors, Vegapunk could do something similar if not better. If this is the case and Vegapunk does have DF awakening technology, the impacts of this are immense, especially with the rise of the SSG.

How could the marines possibly replace the likes of Mihawk, Weevil, and Hancock? Could this possibly be done by, among other things, an army of awakened zoan users?

The last time we saw smoker, he was headed to Vegapunk's lab. Its very likely he will be caught up in this as well. From punk hazard, we saw a glimpse at how deadly logia awakenings could be. If Smoker's is anything like that, he could instantly rise to high tier if not top tier. They could also do something similar with Onigumo, Dalmatian, and maybe even drake as well.

all of these guys who were veteran tier at most now become capable of going on par with high yonko commanders due to having their DFs forcibly awakened.

This could also be how Coby becomes admiral. Many people have said that it is simply impossible for Coby to become an admiral within the confines of the story, but if forcible awakening does exist, it might not be that hard. All he would need is to eat a logia or perhaps a mythic zoan. Add forcible awakening and give him decent haki and he could easily be an admiral, even if he'd be the weakest admiral.

anyways leave your thoughts in the comments below. Could this be the secret behind the SSG?

 

[comrade]

It's seems that whatever the WG and Vegapunk can do with DF, it is mostly focused on Zoans.

- Able to infuse objects with zoans
- Able to awaken zoans (?)
- creating artificial zoans (albeit a weaker and very flawed version)

Seems like doing the same for Logia and Paramecia is much harder or even impossible

Though I don't think Vegapunk has something to do with the awakening of the Jail beasts. Awakening doesn't necessarily have something to do with DF mastery. Or you could say it's different for Zoans as always. Because Zoans don't really require skills. Maybe it's enough to just walk around in your zoan form for long enough for it to awaken in rare cases, with the Impel Down beasts being lucky to have been awakened. Also, it doesn't seem that those Jail Beasts are really conscious; it seems like they have been reduced to their instincts. So you could argue that the zoan fruits gained control over the users and they became more animal like. Which is not the same awakening your fruit through skill.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Though I don't think Vegapunk has something to do with the awakening of the Jail beasts. Awakening doesn't necessarily have something to do with DF mastery. Or you could say it's different for Zoans as always. Because Zoans don't really require skills. Maybe it's enough to just walk around in your zoan form for long enough for it to awaken in rare cases, with the Impel Down beasts being lucky to have been awakened. Also, it doesn't seem that those Jail Beasts are really conscious; it seems like they have been reduced to their instincts. So you could argue that the zoan fruits gained control over the users and they became more animal like. Which is not the same awakening your fruit through skill.

I just think there are too many strong zoan users who aren't awakened for this to be true. What about Lucci or page 1 or even Pekoms(who imo was decently strong)?

 

[comrade]

I just think there are too many strong zoan users who aren't awakened for this to be true. What about Lucci or page 1 or even Pekoms(who imo was decently strong)?

Doffy said awakening is a rare occurrence. I think luck is a part. And also the amount of time. Maybe those ID beasts are zoans for 20, 30 years. Maybe have eaten the fruits as babies. Dunno. But sure, it could be the case that Vegapunk can forcefully awaken them. But it doesn't seem that those ID Beasts are newbies. They look like they are in ID for quite some time. Shouldn't the WG hence have that weapon of awakened zoans for much longer? Like an addition to the pacifistas or an replacement.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Doffy said awakening is a rare occurrence. I think luck is a part. And also the amount of time. Maybe those ID beasts are zoans for 20, 30 years. Maybe have eaten the fruits as babies. Dunno. But sure, it could be the case that Vegapunk can forcefully awaken them. But it doesn't seem that those ID Beasts are newbies. They look like they are in ID for quite some time. Shouldn't the WG hence have that weapon of awakened zoans for much longer? Like an addition to the pacifistas or an replacement.

well the impel down zoans don't look like they're in all that great of a shape.

The marines wouldn't want to give some sort of experimental treatment to high ranking marines like Drake or Onigumo and have them die or become insane.

I think the jailer beasts are a prototype at forced awakening, with the actual technology being only recently developed

 

[Master OF Haki]

Spoiler

So in impel down you have a bunch of fodder characters, the jailer beasts, who somehow were able to achieve DF awakening. Given the immense gap in strength between them and doffy and katakuri, there's something eerily suspect about their awakening.

When you take into consideration Vegapunk's intensive knowledge on DFs, you can then connect the dots to see the bigger picture. Vegapunk has discovered a way to forcibly awaken DFs. We know this isn't entirely impossible. Chopper could manipulate his DF to degrees way beyond that of a normal zoan, possibly granting him awakening, by means of his rumble ball.

With his immense knowledge on lineage factors, Vegapunk could do something similar if not better. If this is the case and Vegapunk does have DF awakening technology, the impacts of this are immense, especially with the rise of the SSG.

How could the marines possibly replace the likes of Mihawk, Weevil, and Hancock? Could this possibly be done by, among other things, an army of awakened zoan users?

The last time we saw smoker, he was headed to Vegapunk's lab. Its very likely he will be caught up in this as well. From punk hazard, we saw a glimpse at how deadly logia awakenings could be. If Smoker's is anything like that, he could instantly rise to high tier if not top tier. They could also do something similar with Onigumo, Dalmatian, and maybe even drake as well.

all of these guys who were veteran tier at most now become capable of going on par with high yonko commanders due to having their DFs forcibly awakened.

This could also be how Coby becomes admiral. Many people have said that it is simply impossible for Coby to become an admiral within the confines of the story, but if forcible awakening does exist, it might not be that hard. All he would need is to eat a logia or perhaps a mythic zoan. Add forcible awakening and give him decent haki and he could easily be an admiral, even if he'd be the weakest admiral.

anyways leave your thoughts in the comments below. Could this be the secret behind the SSG?

I don't know whether it's going to happen or not, I personally believe that it's an artificial Dragon cyborg that can shoot lasers from his eyes and fire from his mouth and has a skin that is as tough as Kaido's skin or even tougher, but at the same time I like the idea of foresd awakening very much, it allows characters like Smoker to become Admiral level very fast and makes them relevant even today.

 

[HPsyche]

It's most likely a weapon that's similar to the Ancient Weapons.

Most people don't know this, but when Pluton was created, the original builders didn't want it being used for good or evil because the power of Pluton would destroy many lives.

Pluton was NEVER intended to be used, but they created a blueprint in case an organisation like the WG got hands on Pluton. If that happened, they' create another Pluton to destroy the original Pluton.

With that said, the only reason Pluton would be used if IF another Pluton has been created or if a similar weapon with equal destructive capacity is built. Being that Pluton is in the story, it has to be used and the condition for it to be used is if another such weapon exists.

We are now nearing the end of the series. It implies the SSG most likely has created a Pluton-like weapon which is why they no longer need the Shichibukai; more so, the WG said if they had Pluton, they could end Piracy. Only reason the WG utilise the Shichibukai is because they lack the power to end the Pirate age, but give that the Shichibukai has been abolished now that they have power, it must be a weapon like Pluton.

Devil fruit awakenings wouldn't be a reason why they no longer need Shichibukai. Awakened DF users can still be weak, e.g. Impel Down Zoans.