Character Discussion The way Oda portrays Luffy/Zoro duo is totally different from Zoro/Sanji duo

[Punk Rotten]

This discussion is so fucking tired.

 

[faker]

Zoro fan formula

320 million ≥ 1.5 billion

320 million > > > > > > > 330 million

 

[Finalbeta]

yep i think people hate sanji because of his personality
i mean, imagine sanji simping vs SJW Feminist on twitter
oda use sanji as funny factor who have funny moment like usopp but also have power to fight back his enemy but the problem is his simp is Not funny!!! now if you guys read City Hunter manga in 90 i think oda got sanji personality based on that manga
City hunter funny in 90 but it still funny in 2021??? Very very Doubt it
plus some fans really really want to compare zoro to sanji but oda clearly like zoro more so the whole fans is burning by it

Funnily he can't even be classified as a real feminist imo, because they are supposed to fully respect women in general xd

 

[Herrera95]

Never understood the Zoro fans talking bad about Sanji. To get down on that level...

I want Sanji to look good. But Oda is an idiot. He is destroying everything he build those years. Sanji was blitzed by P1 but he thinks Usopp can protect Nami from him and Ulti so Sanji helps LUFFY which is suppose to be the strongest(of couse he is not) against fodders.

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Funnily he can't even be classified as a real feminist imo, because they are supposed to fully respect women in general xd

Only supposed because they don't respect women too. Feminist only respect they own way of view. Sometime not even that.

 

[Finalbeta]

Zoro fan formula

320 million ≥ 1.5 billion

320 million > > > > > > > 330 million

Are you suggesting that power levels well reflect bounties or something?

 

[faker]

Are you suggesting that power levels well reflect bounties or something?

When the king's bounties were announced, some people did think so
Is the king better than Marco?

 

[Finalbeta]

When the king's bounties were announced, some people did think so
Is the king better than Marco?

I mean that was clear since the times of Post TS SHs bounties compared with the one of Luffy post EL events I guess xd

And the notions that Oda was being rather consistent with power levels = bounties inside yonko crews was patently an illusion I guess

 

[traxex123]

Ah I get it, you want zoro and sanji to be equal. Sorry mate, that won't happen. Even if they have a rivalary zoro will always end up being on top of Sanji. It doesn't matter if they fight opponents together with a similar bounty. Zoro still end up doing more than Sanji, for example fight the main villain like Kaido, he already did and he will do it again after King.

I dont want it to be equal, i just understand that Oda makes zoro so strong then giving signs that him and sanji could be equal, like boths are wings of pirate king. I really love zoro and have no bias of anything just the way Oda does...

 

[BornInAbyss]

I dont want it to be equal, i just understand that Oda makes zoro so strong then giving signs that him and sanji could be equal, like boths are wings of pirate king. I really love zoro and have no bias of anything just the way Oda does...

That comment aged fairly well. I know and even as a Zoro fan I can understand that no Sanji fan likes his character being downplayed. He is the 3rd strongest crew member for a reason. The rivalary between him and zoro is also real. So I don't mind if Sanji gets some moments to shine.

 

[Soyz]

Never understood the Zoro fans talking bad about Sanji. To get down on that level...

I want Sanji to look good. But Oda is an idiot. He is destroying everything he build those years. Sanji was blitzed by P1 but he thinks Usopp can protect Nami from him and Ulti so Sanji helps LUFFY which is suppose to be the strongest(of couse he is not) against fodders.

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Only supposed because they don't respect women too. Feminist only respect they own way of view. Sometime not even that.

I suggest you would read the story again mate.
P1 NEVER did blits sanji, its literally the other way around.

 

[Kishido]

Of course. It's all a fluke and with Yamato it will come out.

 

[GiaThird]

I would say insecure is when people making excuses to be weaker because he "never trains"

Not training is a fact, not an excuse. Keep being insecure.

 

[Orojackson Refugee]

Not training is a fact

There was a chapter to describe the training for each strawhats.
I am sorry to know your struggles in reading children comics

 

[Herrera95]

I suggest you would read the story again mate.
P1 NEVER did blits sanji, its literally the other way around.

Then wtf is this?

 

[Welkin]

Then wtf is this?

That’s not blitzing that’s overpowering lol

 

[Herrera95]

That’s not blitzing that’s overpowering lol

This is both blitzing and overpowering. Sanji was evading him before that.

 

[Welkin]

This is both blitzing and overpowering. Sanji was evading him before that.

If he reacted to it how did he get blitzed? That’s not how it works

He tried to block the attack and was knocked back so Page One overpowered him but he never out-sped him

 

[Herrera95]

If he reacted to it how did he get blitzed? That’s not how it works

He tried to block the attack and was knocked back so Page One overpowered him but he never out-sped him

Luffy also reacted at rooftop and still was speedblitzed by Kaido. Difference is that Luffy failed to escape while Sanji failed to block.

 

[Welkin]

Luffy also reacted at rooftop and still was speedblitzed by Kaido. Difference is that Luffy failed to escape while Sanji failed to block.

If someone attacks you but you fail to block the attack due to strength instead of speed how is that a speed blitz? Sanji reacted to Page One but couldn’t fully block the attack because he was overpowered

What did this have to do with speed?

 

[SaintBellkin]

True We don’t see any Kind of Rivalry between Luffy and Zoro,instead of that a lot of Parallels depicting how the characters are a bit similar.
For Sanji-Zoro we see a stark contrast in their Characters depicting different personalities albeit with a few Similarities.Proper Rivalry stuff.