Character Discussion The way Oda portrays Luffy/Zoro duo is totally different from Zoro/Sanji duo

why people hate sanji

  • he fights opponents has the same level of zoro's opponents

    Votes: 17 39.5%
  • he loves women in a speechless way

    Votes: 16 37.2%
  • he kicks luffy to protect jeff and others

    Votes: 13 30.2%
  • he looks weak but still strong at the end

    Votes: 17 39.5%

  • Total voters
    43

Kingfisher

The Green Sniper
#22
yes sir, now fodder fights with 1.32 bil and super hero with 1.39 bil
Super hero is fighting his SECOND battle while fodder is fighting his first and last battle after humiliating SHs and thrashed by BM.

Super hero intimidated and scarred opponent with 4.6 BILLION BERRIES and now fighting King who is stronger then fodder's only opponent .

Super hero used 100% power in his FIRST battle just an hour back and now is ready for the 3rd strongest enemy at the onigashima.

Super hero saved lives of the rooftop SN while fodder put Robin's life in danger.

Super hero was acknowledged by Kaido and Big mom while fodder has not even seen Kaido in base and hybrid form.

Super hero was also acknowledged by Law , Killer and Kid while fodder was just acknowledged by another fodder.

Super hero has all 3 types of haki while fodder only has 1.

Super hero trains everyday while fodder just uses his dady's toy.

Super hero defeated Kid's right hand man while fodder was having trouble with the weakest tobi roppo.
 
#23
Super hero is fighting his SECOND battle while fodder is fighting his first and last battle after humiliating SHs and thrashed by BM.

Super hero intimidated and scarred opponent with 4.6 BILLION BERRIES and now fighting King who is stronger then fodder's only opponent .

Super hero used 100% power in his FIRST battle just an hour back and now is ready for the 3rd strongest enemy at the onigashima.

Super hero saved lives of the rooftop SN while fodder put Robin's life in danger.

Super hero was acknowledged by Kaido and Big mom while fodder has not even seen Kaido in base and hybrid form.

Super hero was also acknowledged by Law , Killer and Kid while fodder was just acknowledged by another fodder.

Super hero has all 3 types of haki while fodder only has 1.

Super hero trains everyday while fodder just uses his dady's toy.

Super hero defeated Kid's right hand man while fodder was having trouble with the weakest tobi roppo.
Sanji saved Momo and therfore the raid and saved Zoro's life multiple times in the raid.
Zoro is relying on a magic drug to do his duty of fighting the strongest subordinate.
 

Kingfisher

The Green Sniper
#24
Sanji saved Momo and therfore the raid and saved Zoro's life multiple times in the raid.
Zoro is relying on a magic drug to do his duty of fighting the strongest subordinate.
1. Neg diff by King.

2. It's the duty of every member of the crew to take care of Vice Captain when he is injured. And he is no special.

3. Luffy is relying on his gears , Admirals are relying on their devil fruits , Shanks is relying on his haki . What's your point? This is because ODA wants them to have it . Zoro has the plot because he is the main and strongest character in the crew. He isn't just a fodder like LANJI who was getting his ass kicked by BM when his caption and vice captain were fighting 2 Yonkos.
 
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#25
Saved Momo. That is all matters.

Luffy is relying on his gears , Admirals are relying on their devil fruits , Shanks is relying on his haki .
What is your point?

strongest character in the crew.
:milaugh::milaugh:

He isn't just a fodder like LANJI who was getting his ass kicked by BM
Doesn't matter. At the end of the day, Sanji fighting Queen and Zoro fighting King.
 

Seth

𝐊𝐨𝐤𝐮𝐭𝐨 𝐒𝐡𝐮𝐬𝐮𝐢
#27
When One Piece ends, people will go back and watch Zoro or Luffy's badass moments because they have plenty of them. I can see Sanji being erased from everyone's memory in 1 year after One Piece's ending,these debates wont mean anything.
Looking at the answers in the poll its clear it is some salty candy who wishes Zoro and Sanji were at least a duo let alone comparable to Luffy/Zoro
 
#29
Looking at the answers in the poll its clear it is some salty candy who wishes Zoro and Sanji were at least a duo let alone comparable to Luffy/Zoro
People just dont dare to face the truth, why they hate a character that much
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Super hero is fighting his SECOND battle while fodder is fighting his first and last battle after humiliating SHs and thrashed by BM.

Super hero intimidated and scarred opponent with 4.6 BILLION BERRIES and now fighting King who is stronger then fodder's only opponent .

Super hero used 100% power in his FIRST battle just an hour back and now is ready for the 3rd strongest enemy at the onigashima.

Super hero saved lives of the rooftop SN while fodder put Robin's life in danger.

Super hero was acknowledged by Kaido and Big mom while fodder has not even seen Kaido in base and hybrid form.

Super hero was also acknowledged by Law , Killer and Kid while fodder was just acknowledged by another fodder.

Super hero has all 3 types of haki while fodder only has 1.

Super hero trains everyday while fodder just uses his dady's toy.

Super hero defeated Kid's right hand man while fodder was having trouble with the weakest tobi roppo.
At the end of the day, super hero stands side by side vs fodder
Please dont be too sensitive mate
 
#31
I wouldn't expect the two duos to be the same. Their purpose in the story isn't exactly the same so the way they're presented isn't always the same either.

Luffy and Zoro is the relationship between the captain of the ship and the person closest to him. Zoro's the guy Luffy can depend on most and the one he has the greatest trust in (he even tells Viola something close to, Zoro can handle anything, I'm paraphrasing of course). Strength-wise, Zoro will always be closer to Luffy than Sanji is to Luffy as the dude's the person closest to the captain and that's one of the reasons Zoro was on the roof aiding Luffy and Sanji wasn't.

Zoro and Sanji is the relationship between two individuals on the crew, the wings, that, despite their personal differences, are both integral to Luffy reaching his dreams and respect each other to an extent.

Even now, the rest of the crew (and members of the alliance) that are nearby are ensuring no one disrupts their fight as it's a representation of which duo is more capable of aiding their captain. The way I see it, they're being paired together as they're the ones Oda feels best show the crew's capacity to make Luffy the Pirate King hence it's Zoro and Sanji that are up against the strongest Calamities. We even have them shouting that once this fight is over, Luffy will be closer to being Pirate King and everyone else (as in the crew and Hyogoro) instantly know that their time is best spent ensuring the duo have less distractions as that's the most meaningful way they can contribute to what's going on, on the Live Floor.

Personally, I think both duos have been significant (I'm not really arguing which is more important) and will remain that way in their own ways. They don't have to be the same and in regards to fans remembering them, that's pretty subjective as different people find interest in different aspects of the story.
 
#35
I don't think anyone really "hates" Sanji. Hate is a stigma word. People are more like "jealous" of Sanji's character. Sanji's role is a cook so it's common for people to think Sanji is weaker than Zoro. But Marco and Law are doctors yet they're still strong. Sanji's dream is to find All Blue while Zoro wants to be WSS so people like to say Zoro > Sanji. Whitebeard's and Big Mom's dreams is to have/build a family yet they're the Yonko of the sea. There's nothing wrong with a cook to be as strong as the swordsman as long as the cook have the determination to get stronger. Sanji wants to get stronger to protects his crew.

People are usually criticized Sanji's personality more than his strength. He was treated like shit by family and the only ones who are nice to him was his mom and Reiju who are both woman. So the chivalry is already there. Then Sanji got raised by Zeff which is where Sanji develops his chivalry (don't know how or why Zeff teaches Sanji about treating woman nicely even though they're learning on how to be a cook but it is what it is). Most people "hate" on Sanji because he have different view when it comes to woman unlike Zoro who thinks woman are "weak". Which is the main reason why Zoro vs Sanji rivalry started.
 
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Akagaminoproduction

#36
Most people "hate" on Sanji because he have different view when it comes to woman unlike Zoro who thinks woman are "weak". Which is the main reason why Zoro vs Sanji rivalry started.
I dont think sanji considers women strong else he wouldn't be chivalrous..... People dont like sanji because of his uncontrollable simping and zero tendency to protect from women.... if BM never gaave a chance to call robin... sanji literally would have died eating all punches...
I dont want him to kick woman but atleast run away or just protect yourself like he did against Big Mom....
 
#37
yep i think people hate sanji because of his personality
i mean, imagine sanji simping vs SJW Feminist on twitter :gokulaugh::gokulaugh::gokulaugh:
oda use sanji as funny factor who have funny moment like usopp but also have power to fight back his enemy but the problem is his simp is Not funny!!! now if you guys read City Hunter manga in 90 i think oda got sanji personality based on that manga
City hunter funny in 90 but it still funny in 2021??? Very very Doubt it
plus some fans really really want to compare zoro to sanji but oda clearly like zoro more so the whole fans is burning by it
 
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