Powers & Abilities The Wildfire invades Totland

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#564
#564
rafryk said:
Why did king turn his flame off against zoro before he unlocked acoc?
Katakuri gassed out after fighting 11 hours using future sight the whole time, and for a few hours he fought with a hole in his stomach.
Why would future sight not help? Every single one of king’s attacks has been dodged by zoro, I see no reason why katakuri couldn’t do the same.
And as far as fire goes, the first attack luffy uses on katakuri is red hawk and it does not show to have any effect on his mochi.
Even if you think kaido is the braidead one is still makes no sense for the story.
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Let's not forget that Katakuri himself uses fire in his attacks to great effect(grilled mochi).
 
Mr.9000

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#570
#570
rafryk said:
Even so zoro could not hurt king with his flame on, as stated by zoro, so why turn off the flame?

His durability is comparable to kaido with his flame on, not off.

that could throw him off but that depends on how the army is organized, i doubt they would throw the fodder at king without a plan, especially when katakuri knows they won’t do anything like when the soldiers where on the ship, katakuri ordered them to retreat because they would have been knocked out by luffy and with brulee they have the ability to get in and out of the fight very quickly.
And the whole family has access to the candy bullets that easily pierced the germa exoskeleton, they won’t harm his flame on, but with the flame off, I doubt they would be doing 0 damage unless he coats himself with haki.

I mean it’s a fire attack like any other, we have no way to comparing it to any of king’s attacks I’ll grant you I doubt it’s hotter that karyuudon but i also doubt it’s weaker that king’s flaming bullets, it melted trough candy maiden the second before yet katakuri clashed with his own fist and it did nothing, if fire was a weakness it would have been shown.
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correct me If I’m wrong but I thought his durability was comparable in general. Zoro heavy attacks had little effect on him when off. With flame on, you can make the case he’s the most durable.
I assume it would be a surprise attack from King. There chances would be better if they’re organized, but I still think King wins in the end. Just think if he brought a large barrel of oil with him :chopoff:
 
rafryk

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#571
#571
Mr.9000 said:
correct me If I’m wrong but I thought his durability was comparable in general. Zoro heavy attacks had little effect on him when off. With flame on, you can make the case he’s the most durable.
I assume it would be a surprise attack from King. There chances would be better if they’re organized, but I still think King wins in the end. Just think if he brought a large barrel of oil with him :chopoff:
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When is flame is on king is 100% more durable, but when tha flame is off durability goes to kaido, qt least that is my interpretation giev the fact that the purple aura was uses when hurting kaido but not when hurting king.
I mean i had assumed king went to invade but given tottoland network pf slug thingies they would already know he was there
 
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#572
#572
rafryk said:
When is flame is on king is 100% more durable, but when tha flame is off durability goes to kaido, qt least that is my interpretation giev the fact that the purple aura was uses when hurting kaido but not when hurting king.
I mean i had assumed king went to invade but given tottoland network pf slug thingies they would already know he was there
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Yeah with the flame off it goes to kaido, but even dinosaurs are tough enough to tank Zoro attacks Plus he’s deadly from all ranges. he can tank or dodge most attacks, eventually time will favor him. Charlotte family best chance is if theyre expecting King, and getting a fatal attack off early, but it’s highly unlikely.
 
rafryk

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#573
#573
Mr.9000 said:
Yeah with the flame off it goes to kaido, but even dinosaurs are tough enough to tank Zoro attacks Plus he’s deadly from all ranges. he can tank or dodge most attacks, eventually time will favor him. Charlotte family best chance is if theyre expecting King, and getting a fatal attack off early, but it’s highly unlikely.
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Unless i’m remembering wrong zoro did not land a clean hit on king without his flame before unlocking acoc, the only one we see is the clash with tiger hunt where zoro cut his mask but that is not exactly a clean hit, so it’s hard to say exactly how though he is, assuming he is like other dinosaurs, even with haki they all received damage from opponents that where weaker than zoro, and even the fodders of the bmp have access to the candy bullets that can easily pierce the germa exoskeleton, I doubt those would do no damage, now of course you could say that king has better haki that the other beast pirates, but even assuming his haki would completely block the damage, that would mean constantly coating, so that is another tax on his stamina, and as you said, haki runs out, there is 0% chance that he wins.
 
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#574
#574
rafryk said:
Unless i’m remembering wrong zoro did not land a clean hit on king without his flame before unlocking acoc, the only one we see is the clash with tiger hunt where zoro cut his mask but that is not exactly a clean hit, so it’s hard to say exactly how though he is, assuming he is like other dinosaurs, even with haki they all received damage from opponents that where weaker than zoro, and even the fodders of the bmp have access to the candy bullets that can easily pierce the germa exoskeleton, I doubt those would do no damage, now of course you could say that king has better haki that the other beast pirates, but even assuming his haki would completely block the damage, that would mean constantly coating, so that is another tax on his stamina, and as you said, haki runs out, there is 0% chance that he wins.
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It’s not just haki, but his devil fruit is a prehistoric zoan, they’re extremely durable, and has a good recovery factor without the need for his god powers. Germa exoskeleton durability is more flexible than being able to tank damage like a zoan would. If King can catch Sanji with his super suit on in the air, I don’t see many bullets landing; especially when they’re fires spreading.
 
rafryk

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#575
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Mr.9000 said:
It’s not just haki, but his devil fruit is a prehistoric zoan, they’re extremely durable, and has a good recovery factor without the need for his god powers. Germa exoskeleton durability is more flexible than being able to tank damage like a zoan would. If King can catch Sanji with his super suit on in the air, I don’t see many bullets landing; especially when they’re fires spreading.
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It’s absolutely durable, but he is not immune, and if it were a few bullets i would agree, but the sheer number makes it impossible, we’re talking about hundreds of hundreds of bullets coming from all direction, and in all of this I have not even included the charlottes df, because they have too many to list, but more than one of the has a df that restricts movements. It’s literally impossible to avoid everything they can throw at him, and this is just the fodders, this is without considering the stronger members that can actually put up a fight.
 
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#576
#576
rafryk said:
It’s absolutely durable, but he is not immune, and if it were a few bullets i would agree, but the sheer number makes it impossible, we’re talking about hundreds of hundreds of bullets coming from all direction, and in all of this I have not even included the charlottes df, because they have too many to list, but more than one of the has a df that restricts movements. It’s literally impossible to avoid everything they can throw at him, and this is just the fodders, this is without considering the stronger members that can actually put up a fight.
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Yeah that’s if they’re ready for him, but what’s stopping him from getting out of range of the candy bullets and spamming dragons at them?
 
rafryk

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#577
#577
Mr.9000 said:
Yeah that’s if they’re ready for him, but what’s stopping him from getting out of range of the candy bullets and spamming dragons at them?
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Depends, how many dragons can he spam? How quickly can he spam them? What’s the range of the dragons? What stopped him from using this stategy against zoro?
 
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