General & Others The "wings" of other crews/group

#21
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Thats just something Robin said because black maria was shitting on him.

Sanjistans just wont let it go, will they? I wonder why the same people who dwell soo much on this wings stuff ignore the fact that multiple people already called Zoro the VC of the crew.
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The chapter was called "Wings of the Pirate King", that's Oda saying it's a thing. And you're right, Zoro is the Vice Captain, always has been, just like how King is to Kaido, Rayleigh is to Roger, etc. But, among some crews, you're gonna have a Queen, or a Gaban, or a Sanji. Oda has always focused on Zoro and Sanji and their support of Luffy, portraying them as his right and left hand, respectively. Now that's just being said out loud in the chapter titled "The Wings of the Pirate King", a chapter that focuses on Zoro and Sanji, narrating how they're literally Luffy's wings. Believe me, I'm not some Sanjitard who thinks Sanji is leagues and leagues stronger than Zoro, or some Zorotard who thinks Zoro is the God King of the verse. Just stating a theme that's always been presented to us by Oda, ever since early One Piece. Have a good one, see you around my guy πŸ‘Ί
 
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#22
i don't think there is a parallel you can draw depicting wings the way zoro and sanji are portrayed unless its Roger pirates (which still is a bit nuance given they are ranked by element)let alone the chemistry

you can make pseudo-cases tho.
 
#23
i don't think there is a parallel you can draw depicting wings the way zoro and sanji are portrayed unless its Roger pirates (which still is a bit nuance given they are ranked by element)let alone the chemistry

you can make pseudo-cases tho.
Yeah, the only reason I'd suggest King and Queen as well is due to their names literally being King and Queen, and their ranks being first commander/vice captain and second commander, as well as them acting similarly to Zoro and Sanji/fighting against them. They were also portrayed as the two pillars holding up the Beast Pirates on the live floor now that I think about it...
 
#24
i don't think there is a parallel you can draw depicting wings the way zoro and sanji are portrayed unless its Roger pirates (which still is a bit nuance given they are ranked by element)let alone the chemistry

you can make pseudo-cases tho.
King and Queen
Marco and Jozu
 
#25
King and Marco are both the right hands of their crews.
This means that their crews do not have "wings".

Zoro is not a right hand, he's only a wing; only the Straw Hats have wings so far.
 
#26
Believe me, I'm not some Sanjitard who thinks Sanji is stronger than Zoro
It was already clear in Arlong Park that Sanji is stronger than Zoro, twice as clear in Enies Lobby that Sanji is a lot stronger than Zoro, and thrice as clear in Onigashima that Sanji is by far stronger than Zoro.

And you're right, Zoro is the Vice Captain, always has been, just like how King is to Kaido, Rayleigh is to Roger, etc.
Sanji is the vice captain, always leading and instructing the rest of the crew after Luffy.

Zoro is just the combatant, who can't open his mouth without saying some absurdity that is soon proved to be wrong. The third strongest crew member, who is also the dumbest crew member, has no business whatsoever being the vice-captain.

Zoro is what Lucky Roo is to Shanks: the combatant of the crew. And Sanji is what Benn Beckman is to Shanks: the first mate, who is also comparable to the captain in strength, though Sanji is even stronger than Luffy.
 
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#27
King and Marco are both the right hands of their crews.
This means that their crews do not have "wings".

Zoro is not a right hand, he's only a wing; only the Straw Hats have wings so far.
I mean, it seams fair to assume that you can be a right hand whilst still being one of the wings. Zoro is referred by many in the OP world as the vice captain, even if he or Luffy don't outright say so. I don't see why there can't be a Vice Captain as we as wings, it seems like we already got that from SILVERs Rayleigh and sCOPPER Gaban. This is more interesting then I thought πŸ€”
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That's just a reason not to believe in you, because that means you don't even have a comprehension skill high enough to know which one is really the strongest between those two characters even though it was already clear in Arlong Park that Sanji is stronger than Zoro, twice as clear in Enies Lobby that Sanji is a lot stronger than Zoro, and thrice as clear in Onigashima that Sanji is by far stronger than Zoro.



That's objectively false; Sanji is the vice captain, always leading and instructing the rest of the crew after Luffy.

Zoro is just the combatant, who can't open his mouth without saying some absurdity that is soon proved to be wrong. The third strongest crew member, who is also the dumbest crew member, has no business whatsoever being the vice-captain.

Zoro is what Lucky Roo is to Shanks: the combatant of the crew. And Sanji is what Benn Beckman is to Shanks: the first mate, who is also comparable to the captain in strength, though Sanji is even stronger than Luffy.
I apologize if I upset you in any capacity my man, whether it be for what I said or for quoting the term "Sanjitard". If that's how you see it, then more power to you my guy, I'm just here to have fun πŸ’―
 
#30
Daz Bones and Bonclay for Baroque Works.

Tbh I can't think of too many more. Seems like a rare pairing. Kaku/Jabra aren't wings for Lucci, since Jabra/Lucci have a more significant relationship than Kaku and Lucci do. Doffy has Mr. Vergo and the three idiots. The marines obviously don't have anyone.
 
#31
I apologize if I upset you in any capacity my man, whether it be for what I said or for quoting the term "Sanjitard". If that's how you see it, then more power to you my guy, I'm just here to have fun πŸ’―
There's no need to apologize nor to take back your words, if you really perceive Sanji as not being stronger than Zoro, just because someone else criticized your post, unless you really edited your post because I managed to convince you with what I wrote, which I think is very unlikely to be the case, since people don't change their view on this matter so easily.

I don't even find "Sanjitard" so offensive (if you had written Sanji fan instead, it would have made no difference to me); I was just focused on the affirmation about which one is the strongest. Sorry if I ended up sounding abrasive though.
 
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#34
Sanji was the only wings of luffy, PK needed wings to reach the top, hence Luffy told him he will never be Pirake king without him

Zoro is the breast of Pirate King. since Luffy is a man he has no milk, his breast was useless. :suresure:

It means ZOro is replaceable, he can die, and luffy can still become Pirate King without him:kayneshrug:
 
#36
There are three characters who foil Luffy the best. They also have crew structures that are similar to them.

Captain - Luffy/Buggy/Doffy/Blackbeard
4 Leaders-
Zoro/Sanji/Nami/Usopp
Mohji/Cabaji/Alvida/Galdino
Vergo/Pica/Diamante/Trebol
Shiryu/Lafitte/Pizarro/Van Augur
 
#37
There's no need to apologize nor to take back your words, if you really perceive Sanji as not being stronger than Zoro, just because someone else criticized your post, unless you really edited your post because I managed to convince you with what I wrote, which I think is very unlikely to be the case, since people don't change their view on this matter so easily.

I don't even find "Sanjitard" so offensive (if you had written Sanji fan instead, it would have made no difference to me); I was just focused on the affirmation about which one is the strongest. Sorry if I ended up sounding abrasive though.
Glad you understand my guy. I admit, I didn't change my mind on the subject, I just reworded what I previously said (I read it and it didn't seem like I communicated it properly). But hey, thanks for understanding man, hope to see you around the forum.
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Shs is exception. Only zoro and.sanji are perfectly equals, the other crews have vice captain or strongest underling
Hmm, feel like and King and Queen are similar in that regard. They were always portrayed that way, being the two that shared command when Kaido was absent, and always shitting on Jack.
 

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#38
There are three characters who foil Luffy the best. They also have crew structures that are similar to them.

Captain - Luffy/Buggy/Doffy/Blackbeard
4 Leaders-
Zoro/Sanji/Nami/Usopp
Mohji/Cabaji/Alvida/Galdino
Vergo/Pica/Diamante/Trebol
Shiryu/Lafitte/Pizarro/Van Augur
I guess only 2 account as wings probably πŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ€” that may also work for the other crews assuming someone conceive the wings dictation
 
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