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Ratchet

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We've established Flower is scum from the moment she claimed. I don't think the numbers really allow for us to go lynching the indy anymore. Also kinda confused by you having a scum read on Yoshi but then immediately voting the same wagon?
Do you believe that my vote was made on the basis of Yoshi voting it? Or do you think perhaps it was because that was where I ended up last day phase?
 
Maybe.

I think he is playing the stiffest version of ratchet I have seen.
I understand his vague idea, but even if he believes this, then he shouldn't out this idea right now when he could wait 10 hours and check back then.

And if he believes it, then he should have read my iso and realised that the chances of me being with Jinri are slim.

But he is more busy with grandstanding than anything else.
And it rubs me the wrong way.

But from what I understand, the mech chain that ends with his green check is somewhat solid unless he is gf, which is not something I personally play around.
Or his teammate visited him for a fake green check because the watch was already outed in thread if I read kwehs iso correctly. Do those two have clearing interactionss/pushes/reads?
 
Now you're trying to shift the argument into being personal by attacking my character. I think I outlined a good number of fair assumptions you could have made, and instead you still haven't even conceded your initial position despite having multiple sources explain to you that he claimed how his ability worked was treated incorrectly by the host.

What an I supposed to do with this? I engage you for a defence and you try to attack my character in response, and otherwise refuse to engage on any sort of reasonable level with what I'm outlining. I haven't insulted you. I've just given you the opportunity to defend yourself on what I see as a hard to defend position that you held. And if you refuse to do that, then I can only assume it's because you don't have a defence. You can't lecture about good vibes and then try to bring the vibes down when I'm trying to play mafia with you. That's just hypocritical.
There is no point in conceding anything.

I had a post towards Zemmi about not having read Discord about the potential doubleclaim stuff that I deleted when you continued with your silly spam.
Why? Because I didn't feel like posting it right after you said that might be clearing.

And yes, I haven't, because I simply moved on. Something you clearly suck at doing.
And with this, I will be moving on from this conversation.

Vote me if you must, and watch me not care.
I have wolves to hunt and no need for a dog humping my leg.
 

Ratchet

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so assuming jinri is a wolf, we got 3 more wolves to find after them?
From my PoV:
Ali - Have generally found to be townie, but it hasn't been updated enough and he has slipped on down. Can be scum. That's 1.

The Orca - Was in conflict with melkor. Should be town.

Charlie - Has generally been townie, am not a fan of his pivot from jinri if jinri is scum. I would say lean townie, but not completely off the table to be scum.

Flower - she is probably some form of indie. The problem is scum killed Ekko who had his sights only on flower, which tells me that Flower surviving is what scum want. I fully believe that she is co-operating with scum in some fashion, but if we focus primarily on their number, she should not be a part of them.

Xlaw - His cop claim makes sense for night 1, also his usage night 2 while frustrating isn't impossible to reconcile. Knowing that I myself am town, I struggle to see the motivation for him to fake claim cop to prop me up. Not only that, we have Kweh vouching that he did in fact target me, which means for it to be fake, they would have to commit a benign action on me to fully sell the fake. It's a lot of effort for minimal reward. As such, I don't subscribe to the notion. Should be town.

Yoho - I'm forgetting who replaced him. I'll have to come back to this one. I think the slot can be scum. That's #2.

I remembered, it was reloaded. Dont have enough to townread this slot.

Zemmi - I'm concerned that I'm not finding her easy to find. I think a lot of her defence has been to argue against the moral value of what she's accused by, which generally rings alarm bells for me because it feels like she subsmconciously concedes the accusation that she's scum but wants to maintain that her motives were not dishonourable or appeals to emotion. It's likely that one of her or Ali are scum. Can be scum, but shared that scum slot with Ali.

Kweh - Unfortunately we only have flower vouching. I don't know if I entirely buy his action but overall I haven't had any real issue with his content. I want a claim here eventually but I think he probably is just town.

Alyssa- duelled Melkor, is likely just town. Nothing else needed to be said.

Ace - Kind of don't have much to read them from. Could be scum.

Michelle - Leaning town overall I think, dont have hard evidence for it but have generally liked her posting.

Yoshi/Jan - Have gone back and forth on this slot. Part of what Yoshi plays like does look very naive and towny. But part is just too sheepy. I think Jan's argument on Ekko potntially lying is egregious but I can't say it's impossible to reconcile as town. Overall, with how the thread treats the slot, I'm going to say, gun to head, town, but a blind spot that needs checking.
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That, I believe, covers everyone. If I had to pick, right now, I would say jinri, Zemmi, Reloaded, Ace. If not exactly them, I would say Ali, Jan and *maybe* Charlie next. But that's generally where my head is at.
 

Ratchet

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There is no point in conceding anything.

I had a post towards Zemmi about not having read Discord about the potential doubleclaim stuff that I deleted when you continued with your silly spam.
Why? Because I didn't feel like posting it right after you said that might be clearing.

And yes, I haven't, because I simply moved on. Something you clearly suck at doing.
And with this, I will be moving on from this conversation.

Vote me if you must, and watch me not care.
I have wolves to hunt and no need for a dog humping my leg.
This is a very toxic response for no reason to be honest. You should probably get off your moral high ground and come back down to play with the rest of us. I don't think I've indicated any desire to vote for you today, it would help if you actually read my posts before you make assumptions on their contents.
 
Those text walls....

@Jan did you think ekko was lying because of what his role says?
If he said Jiri did a misc action then either the mod fucked up hard or ekko lied.

I don't know how a mod fucks up that hard.
Because instead of a simple "yes/no" feedback you have to give a "misc." feedback.
And then Ekko has to ignore what happened and claim that he got a "yes".

Logically, none of it makes any sense.
But I haven't read any of it, and if people tell me it makes sense, then I will trust that.
He is dead, and it does not matter too much.


Jiri feels somewhat outted scum in antispew right now.
So like... unless that changes, why care?!
 
This is a very toxic response for no reason to be honest. You should probably get off your moral high ground and come back down to play with the rest of us. I don't think I've indicated any desire to vote for you today, it would help if you actually read my posts before you make assumptions on their contents.
I am toxic because that is how I feel treated by you.
We can both move on and play the game.

That is what I wanted to do anyway.
 

Ratchet

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Maybe.

I think he is playing the stiffest version of ratchet I have seen.
I understand his vague idea, but even if he believes this, then he shouldn't out this idea right now when he could wait 10 hours and check back then.

And if he believes it, then he should have read my iso and realised that the chances of me being with Jinri are slim.

But he is more busy with grandstanding than anything else.
And it rubs me the wrong way.

But from what I understand, the mech chain that ends with his green check is somewhat solid unless he is gf, which is not something I personally play around.
Or his teammate visited him for a fake green check because the watch was already outed in thread if I read kwehs iso correctly. Do those two have clearing interactionss/pushes/reads?
A couple of things - you bringing up Ekko's role in regards to jinri is not clearing. If you're scum with them you will naturally want to get ahead of the potential mech conflict, and if I were scum, I would bring it up and then suggest a way in which it wasn't damning for my mate. Well actually, I would test the thread temperature first, and then decide where to go with it, but the point is it's not something that completely unaligns you with Jinri if I apply my own point of view to you. While we are different players, I try not to underestimate scum ranges.

You're making a lot of assumptions about my posts that I assume are coloured by my being frustrated earlier. I'm still frustrated but I will not have it said that I did not try.

As for the last part, my recollection is that the watch from Kweh on me was outed on Day 2. I could be wrong on that, but I don't think I am, in which case the scum case for Xlaw and me to be scum requires us to have also anticipated a watch on me to cover for it. Oh, and requires me to have attempted to CFD my scum mate Xlaw to save townie freckles at the end of day 1. I will leave it to your discretion as to what you think of that.
 
As for the last part, my recollection is that the watch from Kweh on me was outed on Day 2. I could be wrong on that, but I don't think I am, in which case the scum case for Xlaw and me to be scum requires us to have also anticipated a watch on me to cover for it. Oh, and requires me to have attempted to CFD my scum mate Xlaw to save townie freckles at the end of day 1. I will leave it to your discretion as to what you think of that.
I have not checked exact timestamps to check for cycle changes when reading isos.
I only remember Kewh outing the wish in the thread before the watch happened.
 

Ratchet

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I have a really stupid reason to together Ratchet
I don't really get these. You don't need stupid reasons you have an innocent investigation on me from a confirmed visit. The tunnel vision idea of looking through that because "there might be a godfather" is the kind of, how to put this politely, suboptimal level of scum hunting that Ali and Bittersweet tend to do, where they lose the forest for the trees and focus solely on one or two pieces of info. Unless you have good reason to be opposed to what I'm promoting, I don't even see why it needs discussion.
 
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