General & Others Things Luffy Basically "Handed" to BlackBeard
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It's going to happen, but it still isn't as much of an accomplishment as possessing two fruits, as it sits I doubt he's stopping at two, which is even crazier.
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No, I guess you have to fight everyone and everything at inconvenient times without any planning at all, that's what makes a good villain apparently.
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No, I guess you have to fight everyone and everything at inconvenient times without any planning at all, that's what makes a good villain apparently.
Forget doffy and Croc...
People were hyped about kaido and BM and apart from their beastly strength they were just big let down...
Big hype moments are necessary but what makes BB special is he as a villain involves himself in other plots and actually seize opportunities is presented to him to grow and has growth curve like ShS....
Of course some of them are conveniences but why this is an issue when luffy and ShS enjoy plot Armor themselves
People were hyped about kaido and BM and apart from their beastly strength they were just big let down...
Big hype moments are necessary but what makes BB special is he as a villain involves himself in other plots and actually seize opportunities is presented to him to grow and has growth curve like ShS....
Of course some of them are conveniences but why this is an issue when luffy and ShS enjoy plot Armor themselves
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I love BB because he simply doesn't let himself be swayed by things like honor or stains on his reputation. He acts rationally most of the time and only takes risks if it's worth it. However, the other emperors are also very intelligent and act strategically and rationally, especially in the way they manage their empires. There's no dumb Yonkou.
I understand the preference for BB because he was a character we saw grow from nothing to where he is today, and he was very cunning and intelligent along the way. While the others were already entrenched in the position he now holds, we didn't see much of what Kaido and Big Mom did to become Yonkou, but we saw firsthand BB doing it.
Blackbeard isn't necessarily a bad villain. I mean, risking a war against Kaido or Big Mom, even if he were to win, would result in heavy losses. This was one of the reasons even Whitebeard, who is on par with Roger, avoided fighting Kaido in Wano. He would win the war and immediately be targeted by Shanks. The reason Shanks was in Wano was for a possible attempt by Blackbeard vs Straw Hat recovering, with reduced numbers, etc. Blackbeard did the right thing in going after Law.
No one was crazy enough to risk a war in Wano with Kaido, not even the prime Whitebeard. Luffy did so with alliances and his crew, but he didn't even use his grand fleet; most of the forces he gathered were internally from Wano itself. The Yonkous live in a stalemate; any widespread battle between them opens up a huge gap for possible interventions from other enemies. The Marines were literally waiting for the end of the fight between Kaido and Big Mom so they could act. Things aren't as simple as people think.
I understand the preference for BB because he was a character we saw grow from nothing to where he is today, and he was very cunning and intelligent along the way. While the others were already entrenched in the position he now holds, we didn't see much of what Kaido and Big Mom did to become Yonkou, but we saw firsthand BB doing it.
Blackbeard isn't necessarily a bad villain. I mean, risking a war against Kaido or Big Mom, even if he were to win, would result in heavy losses. This was one of the reasons even Whitebeard, who is on par with Roger, avoided fighting Kaido in Wano. He would win the war and immediately be targeted by Shanks. The reason Shanks was in Wano was for a possible attempt by Blackbeard vs Straw Hat recovering, with reduced numbers, etc. Blackbeard did the right thing in going after Law.
No one was crazy enough to risk a war in Wano with Kaido, not even the prime Whitebeard. Luffy did so with alliances and his crew, but he didn't even use his grand fleet; most of the forces he gathered were internally from Wano itself. The Yonkous live in a stalemate; any widespread battle between them opens up a huge gap for possible interventions from other enemies. The Marines were literally waiting for the end of the fight between Kaido and Big Mom so they could act. Things aren't as simple as people think.
It’s because of Luffy’s break in and freeing many prisoners that Magellan released Shiryu.
If not for that, the BB pirates would have just been wiped out by Magellan’s poison.
Shiryu & the level 6 prisoners being able to join BB was because of all that.
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BB still waited until Luffy actually freed up a Shichibukai spot though. It is what it is.
And no, Magellan would have killed BB and co if not for Shiryu being freed and giving them an antidote. It’s because Magellan was already busy with Luffy that he authorized Shiryu’s release.
Luffy & co would have escaped without BB.
Brook is one of Luffy’s crewmates. His accomplishment is Luffy’s. Luffy had to free Fishmen Island before Neptune confirmed Poseidon to Robin. He nearly died of blood loss. Same for Wano and Sukiyaki with Robin. He had to defeat Kaido for that. That’s far from a silver platter.
The only thing that BB accomplished for a year before Luffy set sail was killing Thatch for the Yami. Everything else only got rolling from Luffy defeating Crocodile….so yes BB like most others was dependent on the Strawhats.
If not for that, the BB pirates would have just been wiped out by Magellan’s poison.
Shiryu & the level 6 prisoners being able to join BB was because of all that.
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BB still waited until Luffy actually freed up a Shichibukai spot though. It is what it is.
And no, Magellan would have killed BB and co if not for Shiryu being freed and giving them an antidote. It’s because Magellan was already busy with Luffy that he authorized Shiryu’s release.
Luffy & co would have escaped without BB.
Brook is one of Luffy’s crewmates. His accomplishment is Luffy’s. Luffy had to free Fishmen Island before Neptune confirmed Poseidon to Robin. He nearly died of blood loss. Same for Wano and Sukiyaki with Robin. He had to defeat Kaido for that. That’s far from a silver platter.
The only thing that BB accomplished for a year before Luffy set sail was killing Thatch for the Yami. Everything else only got rolling from Luffy defeating Crocodile….so yes BB like most others was dependent on the Strawhats.
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