Future Events This Is Too Early

[kekaro]

BB will fight Imu in the final battle alongside Luffy is my prediction. His Yami fruit will be crucial in giving Luffy and him the opportunity to end Imu for good. And then BB will try to get the throne but Luffy will fight him for it.

And than cross guild will be the fv

 

[Fujishiro]

And than cross guild will be the fv

Wuggy upscale @Sir Yasheen

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Wuggy upscale @Sir Yasheen

People truly aren’t ready



He’s the only yonko who’s lineage has remained a mystery for a reason

 

[shadowdancer]

But how does this lineup with Imu being called the false king in the flashback. The Davy Jones claim and storyline and his will being inherited by BB?

I think those are useful hooks, but they only work if Oda actually shows how that turns into real power, otherwise the same question remains: who actually runs the World Government after Imu? It’s possible Oda will have the WG collapse entirely after Imu, but that still needs on‑page justification

 

[shadowdancer]

BB will fight Imu in the final battle alongside Luffy is my prediction. His Yami fruit will be crucial in giving Luffy and him the opportunity to end Imu for good. And then BB will try to get the throne but Luffy will fight him for it.

I like the idea of Blackbeard teaming up against Imu, that fits his opportunist vibe. I’m not against him being endgame, but if he replaces Imu, you still have to explain who supports him and how he keeps that kind of control long-term. And with the final saga already underway, I’m not sure there’s enough time to really develop that

 

[Welkin]

It’s almost guaranteed to be the 2nd option imo Imu won’t fall here but I think Oda will flip the script by having 2 main antagonists instead of one

BB who wishes to become the King of the World and Imu who wishes to maintain the world that he’s created

Vs Luffy who wants to liberate everyone

It’ll be a 1v1v1 imo (including whatever alliances they may have forged)

 

[Fujishiro]

It’s almost guaranteed to be the 2nd option imo Imu won’t fall here but I think Oda will flip the script by having 2 main antagonists instead of one

BB who wishes to become the King of the World and Imu who wishes to maintain the world that he’s created

Vs Luffy who wants to liberate everyone

It’ll be a 1v1v1 imo (including whatever alliances they may have forged)

Yes a threeway battle is possible.

 

[kekaro]

Yes a threeway battle is possible.

I get where you coming from but i dont see it
Allying with croco when he has now crew is one thing but oda already acknowledged that blackbeard is at minimum partly responsible for ace death
kinda character assination imo

 

[Fujishiro]

I get where you coming from but i dont see it
Allying with croco when he has now crew is one thing but oda already acknowledged that blackbeard is at minimum partly responsible for ace death
kinda character assination imo

BB told Luffy that he can go and try and save ace and that it might even be possible.

 

[kekaro]

BB told Luffy that he can go and try and save ace and that it might even be possible.

I dont have the chapter at hand but im 99% sure they are 1 or even 2 post-ts scenes of luffy activly disliking bb for a) being partly responsible for ace death b) attacking the revo HQ

 

[Fujishiro]

I dont have the chapter at hand but im 99% sure they are 1 or even 2 post-ts scenes of luffy activly disliking bb for a) being partly responsible for ace death b) attacking the revo HQ

Yes Im aware. Also the quote you responded to was us saying it was going to be a threeway 1vs1vs1 not together.

 

[kekaro]

Yes Im aware. Also the quote you responded to was us saying it was going to be a threeway 1vs1vs1 not together.

Thats more likely but the argument for that was always the following (obviously oda can fudge this but thats not the point):

If we see the full extend of imus powers in a extended fight, it would be boring that the final final enemy, and the one that is the right after the one of that, would use the same kit of powers

This even goes further at this poitn cause in 1 vs 1 vs 1 we would also see most if not all what blackbeard had to offer so it would be a repeat of that too

The way oda avoided that so far with BB is offscreening his fight and made a ill WB use his fruit so im not convinced so far

 

[Fujishiro]

Thats more likely but the argument for that was always the following (obviously oda can fudge this but thats not the point):

If we see the full extend of imus powers in a extended fight, it would be boring that the final final enemy, and the one that is the right after the one of that, would use the same kit of powers

This even goes further at this poitn cause in 1 vs 1 vs 1 we would also see most if not all what blackbeard had to offer so it would be a repeat of that too

The way oda avoided that so far with BB is offscreening his fight and made a ill WB use his fruit so im not convinced so far

Eh he used the yami and the gura against Law for example, If Imu uses some of his toolset in the coming chapters it means nothing.

 

[kekaro]

Eh he used the yami and the gura against Law for example, If Imu uses some of his toolset in the coming chapters it means nothing.

Didnt he used the exact same quake as WB and the Yami attack was the black vortex he used pre-ts?


Im not talking about imu in the next chapters, im talking about the hypotethical 1vs1vs1 and THAN another fight against bb where he basiacly would only use moves we already know

 

[Fujishiro]

Didnt he used the exact same quake as WB and the Yami attack was the black vortex he used pre-ts?


Im not talking about imu in the next chapters, im talking about the hypotethical 1vs1vs1 and THAN another fight against bb where he basiacly would only use moves we already know

Sasuke vs Naruto was a thing and they both showed their bag against Kaguya. Its not that deep. Also its funny how there are so many threads made by BB fans saying he will be FV while Imu fans arent saying shit, they dont need to.

 

[MUUGEN]

I have always advocated that the WG is the enemy of this saga, they are the ones being built up as the enemies instead of the highly anticipated battle with the BBPs we will be getting the WG as the enemies of the SHPs. And based on this I expected Elbaf to not be a big arc like DR or Wano.

Quick recap, SHPs leave Wano and get to EH where they face off against the Navy and WG. The Gorosei are revealed in their full form for the first time. SHPs escape and head to Elbaf. We get an update of events around the world like CG doing stuff, BB defeating Law and Shanks beating Kid and then setting off from Elbaf before SHPs arrive. We are introduced to the HKs during this time and in Elbaf the HKs are shown as the initial main antagonists.

But then we get a very lengthy flashback which covers more than the tellers perspective (Lokis). And then the problems are resolved too quickly which is confirmed by inverse comments from characters.

So the expectation was that this fight will be delayed or we will get another arc like Enies Lobby for defeating the WG with the HKs and the Gorosei being taken down. But here we have Imu himself coming down to Elbaf and this completely changes things. When has the main villain of an arc get involved this early and by himself. People are right in assuming we get a Kaido type introduction with Luffy suffering a defeat. But this wont be the first time either, Croc also got involved early and defeated Luffy. So going by that pattern should we assume that Luffy again will be defeated here and Imu will go back and then much later Luffy will defeat Imu in the same arc? The difference though is that Kaido and Croc were already the rulers of the countries whereas Imu is not the ruler of Elbaf and he has declared war on Elbaf.

This confirms one thing though and that is Imu being the main saga villain and being defeated at the end. The only other way I see Imu being the FV is that Imu has to retreat after a false victory or some time limitation thing. And SHPs are forced to get OP first for which they fight the BBPs and then come back to defeat the WG.

These are the possible scenarios imo:
1. Imu and WG are defeated and the scramble for OP decides who becomes the new king of the world (Luffy vs BB as final fight)
2. Imu and WG get false victory and SHPs survive and get OP (Luffy vs BB) and then come back to fight WG (Luffy vs Imu as final fight)

If its the latter case then this will be a very long saga cause Laugh Tale wont be short at all. SHPs vs BBPs will take quite a lot of chapters imo.

@Paperchampion23 @Welkin @Xione @nik87 @Fujishiro @Shimotsuki Fenaker @mly90 @Loki D. Terror etc.

for luffy to be defeated means imu wins, luffy maybe defeated but loki will save him as for imu not sure how his defeat would look.

 

[kekaro]

Sasuke vs Naruto was a thing and they both showed their bag against Kaguya. Its not that deep. Also its funny how there are so many threads made by BB fans saying he will be FV while Imu fans arent saying shit, they dont need to.

True im convinced
Fatty still has more aura so far tho

 

[Fujishiro]

for luffy to be defeated means imu wins, luffy maybe defeated but loki will save him as for imu not sure how his defeat would look.

Imu can win and then be forced to leave due to the obvious time limit he has being in the outside world.

 

[Fujishiro]

True im convinced
Fatty still has more aura so far tho

BB is more charismatic atm because hes had iconic scenes, I love him. I was convinced he was going to be FV until the Reverie and then later the Harley happened.

 

[MUUGEN]

Imu can win and then be forced to leave due to the obvious time limit he has being in the outside world.

that would just be annoying plot convenience.