Current Events Those who push the Shiryu >= Kuzan agenda are ruining Shiryu

[LolonoisZolo]

I just feel like I want more from him featwise. Imo he's probably YC3 or YC2 level but he could easily be higher.
It's just a matter of feats for him, so far the best thing he's done is taking out BB's crew with one attack but they didn't really know his powers so that wasn't terribly impressive itself.
Oh, also he beat Ivankov, who's relatively strong. But still I want more feats from him

Lol @ YC2 or 3 come on 😆
Saying that YC1 (minimum) Yami Teach got one shot alongside his crew was because he didn't know Maggelan's power is a very poor excuse; you're basically saying Yami BB and crew would get one shot by a Cracker or a Queen ? I'd go even higher, would Katakuri or King or Marco one shot Yami BB and all his OG crew ?

 

[JDragon20]

Shiryu might not be stronger than Kuzan now but he will be when he fights Zoro

 

[RoronoaZorro]

this is actualy a very good point against shiryu unlike the ones from waiterfans. But depending of who zoro fight at last anything can happen. if buggy at laughtale then mihawk, if imu it will be nusjuro, if blackbeard it will be shiryu. Im mainly a zoro and luffy (only reason I rarely stand luffy here is because there is already enough luffy wank). As such I have no favorites between mihawk, nusjuro and shiryu since in the end the last one standing will be ZORO..

What about Garling?

 

[Kurozumi mugiwara44]

Those who don't accept the Shiryu > Kuzan reality are ruining Shiryu

 

[Fujishiro]

Lol @ YC2 or 3 come on 😆
Saying that YC1 (minimum) Yami Teach got one shot alongside his crew was because he didn't know Maggelan's power is a very poor excuse; you're basically saying Yami BB and crew would get one shot by a Cracker or a Queen ? I'd go even higher, would Katakuri or King or Marco one shot Yami BB and all his OG crew ?

This is a false equivalency, they dont have an extremely lethal poison like Magellan does, well Queen may can with his virus thing I guess but its not as fast acting as Magellans attack.

 

[Redboy776]

What about Garling?

he might clash with zoro but I dont expect much.

 

[Fujishiro]

Oda "whiryu is the second strongest after BB" mainwhile waiterfans "stop pushing whiryu as second strongest after BB"

Blackbeard considers Kuzan to be the strongest there.

 

[Alarica]

ZKK

 

[trav]

Blackbeard considers Kuzan to be the strongest there

"It was not a lie. It was my imagination. And in my imagination - in my mind - I believed it. Even now, I believe it."

 

[zzShinichi]

At least we learnt from our mistake. We used to bash the shit out of King and Lucci before they became Zoro's opponents

 

[JoNdule]

Zoro is top tier ...yet will need PU to beat someone who's twice below top tiers


time to learn that Zoro won't be top tier until EoS or at least when he gets PU against Shiryu

 

[BigAmmi]

True

 

[m0nst3Rx]

mf shyru neg diffed garp with a no nameed attack. who tf even saying he equals to kuzan?? shiryu onshot that bum

 

[Cruxroux]

@Dragon777 with your logic if Shiryu is revealed to have Supreme blade.
Is He ~ Fuji now?

 

[NotTommy]

Yeah, Shiryu isn't really shaping up to be better than Aokiji, but as long as his armament and fruit are great, he can make for a decent Zoro fight. No clue on what an awakening would be, but so long as it's busted, it could be a fight.

 

[Topi Jerami]

Nobody's trying to push anything, lol.


1st. They're both held in similar viewing for Blackbeard, despite Shiryuu having been on the crew for 2 years now and Kuzan being a newer member:

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2nd. Even in this fight, the two people to damage Garp are Kuzan and Shiryuu. And Garp gave both of them the same treatment.


3rd. The cover should speak for itself.

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Rayleigh - strongest crewmember
Beckman - strongest
King - strongest
Kata - strongest
Killer - strongest
Marco - strongest
Zoro - strongest
Sabo - strongest
Bepo - Oda explains he picked Bepo due to strength
..........Logically, Shiryuu is the strongest after Teach.


There's nothing to push, Kuzan factually is the 3rd strongest member of the Blackbeard pirates after Blackbeard & Shiryuu, as the 10th Titanic captain. He's not an ally of Blackbeard's, he's not an associate, he's an actual crew member who is under Blackbeard's command.

Kuzan got weaker than his pre-TS self, Shiryuu on the other hand got stronger than his pre-TS self. I've said it for a while now, Shiryuu will be relative to Teach.

Finally a sane Admiral fans

This big chad Xione really has eyes for great characters.
First he made Ryofui wank thread, now he acknowledges Shiryu > Kuzan

Learn from your big brother, kids @Elder Lee Hung @SakazOuki @MarineHQ

 

[LolonoisZolo]

This is a false equivalency, they dont have an extremely lethal poison like Magellan does, well Queen may can with his virus thing I guess but its not as fast acting as Magellans attack.

This is precisely why Maggelan is in the Top tier departement, his DF; noone can tag him in cqc without extreme risk, a droplet of his poison on a non protected skin and it is over; he has also shown some kind of giant form (awakening?) With even a more potent poison lol

 

[Unlimited Rulebook]

This is precisely why Maggelan is in the Top tier departement, his DF; noone can tag him in cqc without extreme risk, a droplet of his poison on a non protected skin and it is over; he has also shown some kind of giant form (awakening?) With even a more potent poison lol

TBH, Sugar is top tier with her df. One touch and “who’s that?”

 

[LolonoisZolo]

TBH, Sugar is top tier with her df. One touch and “who’s that?”

Sugar acts like a scared little child with 0 fighting capabilities...
Did she make a whole bunch of high tiers run for their lives screaming and sweating in fear ?
If Sugar had any fighting style, she would be overpowered for sure.

 

[Unlimited Rulebook]

Sugar acts like a scared little child with 0 fighting capabilities...
Did she make a whole bunch of high tiers run for their lives screaming and sweating in fear ?
If Sugar had any fighting style, she would be overpowered for sure.

When you only look at it as battling, you have a point. She doesn’t need to battle, just stealth.