[FNZ] Salem of Lies Throne Of Lies: Darkness over Worstgen

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Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Explain what does JG get from outting info like that? If she is not what she claims she is, there would be no need to even state that she has info. Let alone share it.
Forget that for a second. Let's focus on mechanics.

Joygirl says Ekko targeted Hime.
Hime says Ekko should have targeted Light if anyone.

This means Joygirl's results are wrong, or Ekko is redirect immune. He claimed otherwise. The evidence is in favour of Ekko, because Hime's results contradict Joy's. Ekko has claimed to not be redirect immune. That means if Joygirl flips Town, Ekko must be Scum.
 

EkkoLoJinx

No dude... that's a bike...!!
Ekko

You know I am indie with 0 game into lynching anyone besides light, so my opinion should be null no matter what, the fact you need to defend yourself even from me isn't healthy.
i dont give a fuq about ur alignment. u made a statement about my play now u either back it up with facts or be quiet honestly
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Because I´m town. Why are you so eager to get me lynched instead of Ekko? Won´t look good on you when Ekko flips scum.
See:
Forget that for a second. Let's focus on mechanics.

Joygirl says Ekko targeted Hime.
Hime says Ekko should have targeted Light if anyone.

This means Joygirl's results are wrong, or Ekko is redirect immune. He claimed otherwise. The evidence is in favour of Ekko, because Hime's results contradict Joy's. Ekko has claimed to not be redirect immune. That means if Joygirl flips Town, Ekko must be Scum.
It's logic, that's all there is to it. By virtue of Hime having results we know Ekko isn't harmful in any action he tok vs Hime. You on the other hand could be anything.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
u didnt see my reply earlier?

here is the scenario/tinfoil

> joy is mastermind/cult leader
> n1 culted hime
> hime redirected me to light n1
> joy is now going to try and sell that i am a redirect immune player hence why she did not see me visit light but instead saw me visit hime. hime obviously plays along by voting me and not joy

evidences that lead to the existence of the theory, even if its a low chance:
1. hime's vote on me and not joy
2. joy's unexplained town read of hime / unsupported from the thread
3. joy's increasingly getting tamer after i had revealed my role to hime - further suggesting she is now aware of my claim and is afraid i can just claim it and ruin her day so shes taking the backseat now and hoping the day is over in no lynch


you can also substitute the culting with hime being a starting cult redirector since she honestly struggled to formulate a meaningful reason/explaination as to why redirect me to light.
Better, but it still relies on players not understanding that Joygirl should be the lynch because her results are in conflict with Hime. Why do they assume that?
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Even if Ekko is scum here, which is very much in play, it doesn't explain why Hime has results that conflict with Joy unless he's exactly redirect immune and also not harmful. If anyone is likely allied it's Ekko/Hime.
 

EkkoLoJinx

No dude... that's a bike...!!
@Ratchet
oh why do they assume so*

no clue, they seem to have conceded after i revealed my role to hime. look how tame she is. she know once i claim its checkmate

they thought i was scum. joy probably scum/indie read me so made it up to catch me in a lie. its my best explaination

i dont see why as town wud she do this

there are no hypnotize role that can make her see me visit hime
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
@Ratchet
oh why do they assume so*

no clue, they seem to have conceded after i revealed my role to hime. look how tame she is. she know once i claim its checkmate

they thought i was scum. joy probably scum/indie read me so made it up to catch me in a lie. its my best explaination

i dont see why as town wud she do this

there are no hypnotize role that can make her see me visit hime
You have my blessing to tag everyone and ask them to vote Joy. Consider yourself my proxy on that, I need to eat.
 
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Joygirl1

Forget that for a second. Let's focus on mechanics.

Joygirl says Ekko targeted Hime.
Hime says Ekko should have targeted Light if anyone.

This means Joygirl's results are wrong, or Ekko is redirect immune. He claimed otherwise. The evidence is in favour of Ekko, because Hime's results contradict Joy's. Ekko has claimed to not be redirect immune. That means if Joygirl flips Town, Ekko must be Scum.
You´re willing to waste a lynch for that? Because town could afford as much mislynches as they want... :goatasure:

From my point of view this looks like an attempt from Ratchet to save Ekko for at least one phase longer.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
You´re willing to waste a lynch for that? Because town could afford as much mislynches as they want... :goatasure:

From my point of view this looks like an attempt from Ratchet to save Ekko for at least one phase longer.
Take the blinkers off. My point is if he's Scum Ekko isn't harmful in ability (as in, kills etc) unless he's exactly scum with Hime. You could be anything. So you're the better lynch.
 
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