Role Madness Too Many Doctors (Game Thread)

[Ratchet]

While I can see the likes of Ratchet and Mango being teamed with a lot more people given that their wagons gain zero traction whenever proposed.

This has nothing to do with being teamed, though. Scum might not want to jump on a mislynch, and also, why would you be expecting scum Ratchet and scum Mango to be playing it this way?

Also noted that there has been a lack of outrage from you about me not town reading you by now, kinda weird.

 

[Polar Bear]

We pick 1 player to target at night, everyone on the same player, via a vote alongside the lynch.
Watcher watches the target.
Target gets killed.
Scum has to target the same player so they also appear in the Watcher result.
Thus preventing them from killing anyone else or using their abilities for info or blocks.
Cuz if they stray the Watcher will see them not visit the target and then it outs them.
And since the kill is mandatory it also forces them to kill the same target. And if the target is scum they have to kill their mates.

I guess I need to read the setup

 

[Fujishiro]

Literally everyone and their dog want to lynch Ekko. Who are his team mates even.

3 people out of 17 are voting him.

 

[Flower]

Or why do you think that many Govts are ass and meanwhile Switzerland is thriving.

 

[Fujishiro]

3 people out of 20 are voting him.

 

[Hayumi]

I do find Flower’s defense of Ekko really weird tbh. But I don’t think they’d be w/w with the blatant positioning at least, especially even given the sheeping comment at start of day

 

[Yoho]

If I had to give an impromptu suspect list based on the shenanigans of the day my biggest suspects would be Ratchet and Flower

They both have these grand plan and schemes but no matter how you slice it, it feels to me both plans is giving scum free kills

And neither really gives us a clear indication om whose scum

Flower said watch whoever strays but the target

But people are hardheaded just because they stray doesn't mean they're scum just means they thought the plan was foolish and wanted to vote someone else

And since both of you laid out your plans out in the open, scum can just follow the plan enjoy the free kills and coast the whole time

 

[Ratchet]

Modern day politics literally prove that electing a representative who makes decisions for you is shit because they can do what they want with the power you gave them. If you vote directly for a decision at least you have a bit of control over your own fate.

...no, because the figurehead is not the one with all the power, because it's democratic. What I'm saying is that even if you have a majority, the minority that loses have no incentive to follow suit with the majority. You need to give them a reason that is better than "you lost suck it up". There is no perfect reason. No one guaranteed solution. That's why you take focus away from a side losing and give people a reason to support choice even if they don't necessarily agree with it.

 

[Flower]

I do find Flower’s defense of Ekko really weird tbh. But I don’t think they’d be w/w with the blatant positioning at least, especially even given the sheeping comment at start of day

Tell me who he‘s teamed with.

 

[Flower]

3 people out of 17 are voting him.

There are 21 players.

 

[Hayumi]

Tell me who he‘s teamed with.

Babe it’s not even 24 hours into d1. I’m not the type of player who’s going to come up with an entire scum team. I have scum reads independent of each other for their own separate reasons.

 

[Ratchet]

Or why do you think that many Govts are ass and meanwhile Switzerland is thriving.

Switzerland? That country literally profited from World War 2 by allowing the Nazi's to launder money through their banks, as a means to keep them away from invading them. Then when the Nazi's collapsed they had all this money and nowhere they needed to send it to. There's much more to this but they are hardly the bastion of the people you present them as lol.

 

[MangoSenpai]

…how we decide lynches…via vote…via democracy. And that also makes most people at least go along with the plan…because they get to decide who goes themselves and not the King…they are far more likely to disagree with the target if only a single player decides, which causes chaos and a lot more conflict.

And once again you are using Ratchet as a crutch. My points are valid and you fail to address the main issue.

Exactly, so suddenly it's a public responsibility on who gets voted. In other words, the individual doesn't have any accountability. Quite convenient for scum to have an arena they can hijack for their own benefits with little individual responsibility.

Having a king makes it so that you can't just act without thinking as all eyes are on them.

I don't know what Crutch means, but regardless of what you're trying to discredit me for, I'm calling you out for your disingenuous angling and very obvious leaps in conclusions

 

[Polar Bear]

@Flower i like the plan a lot.

Howver, the problem with it, and I believe Ratchet pointed it out, is on the execution.

What we could also do is have 4 or 5 reliable town reads target a scum read to kill them off. Use it as a hit vs finding a scum. Its much more feasible

 

[Ratchet]

There are 21 players.

Are you including Ekko not voting himself as evidence of him not being scum?

 

[Ratchet]

If I had to give an impromptu suspect list based on the shenanigans of the day my biggest suspects would be Ratchet and Flower

They both have these grand plan and schemes but no matter how you slice it, it feels to me both plans is giving scum free kills

And neither really gives us a clear indication om whose scum

Flower said watch whoever strays but the target

But people are hardheaded just because they stray doesn't mean they're scum just means they thought the plan was foolish and wanted to vote someone else

And since both of you laid out your plans out in the open, scum can just follow the plan enjoy the free kills and coast the whole time

What's your plan Yoho?

 

[Fujishiro]

There are 21 players.

3 vs 17 is 20. And Im not counting Ekko.

 

[MangoSenpai]

My previous vote was invalid;

VOTE LYNCH FLOWER

 

[Flower]

Mango calls Ekko scum.
Kiku calls him scum.
Yo Tan calls him scum.
Ratchet calls him scum.
AM called him scum.
Fuji isn’t aligned with him.
Orca and Polar did fuck all to defend him or vote him. They would likely support a lynch on him as his team mates to distance since both are usually bussers who play to look good.
Yoho won’t be aligned with him given what Ekko did at SoD.
Hayumi is suspecting him. Won’t be aligned with him either.
Michelle sides with Ratchet after he pushed Ekko, not aligned with Ekko.
Alexis would likely bus here, so unlikely to be teamed.
Stargate argued against coordinating which Ekko proposed, so he‘d push against the narrative driven by his mate. Ekko also wanted to lynch Star. Not aligned.
Daniel seems Town independent from anything.
RA could be, but way too inactive.

 

[Fujishiro]

@Ratchet why do you even scum read Ekko?