Role Madness Too Many Doctors (Game Thread)

[EkkoLoJinx]

@EkkoLoJinx thoughts on that plan?

its basically a toned down version of mine, mine's a bit greedy by wanting to wipe all poe in one fell swoop

considering this is wg, lets go with yours since mine requires more coordination and yours has more margin of error/inactivity

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

not everyone is going to focus on those 2-3
and assuming those 2-3 end up being town, what do u do next???
this isnt an SRM where u can just throw around kills willy nilly

if town plays this as vanilla (minus watcher), what is scum going to do? they can only faction kill 1 person per night

census-wise currently, scum only need 11 players dead
we can be in lylo by dp3 if scum is able to powerwolf

thats the part where threadplay comes into play, you got professionals here, im gonna pack that poe with scum slots

 

[Alwaysmind]

Certain of you need a reminder.

I swear by Apollo Healer, by Asclepius, by Hygieia, by Panacea, and by all the gods and goddesses, making them my witnesses, that I will carry out, according to my ability and judgment, this oath and this indenture.

To hold my teacher in this art equal to my own parents; to make him partner in my livelihood; when he is in need of money to share mine with him; to consider his family as my own brothers, and to teach them this art, if they want to learn it, without fee or indenture; to impart precept, oral instruction, and all other instruction to my own sons, the sons of my teacher, and to indentured pupils who have taken the Healer's oath, but to nobody else.

I will use those dietary regimens which will benefit my patients according to my greatest ability and judgment, and I will do no harm or injustice to them.[4] Neither will I administer a poison to anybody when asked to do so, nor will I suggest such a course. Similarly I will not give to a woman a pessary to cause abortion. But I will keep pure and holy both my life and my art. I will not use the knife, not even, verily, on sufferers from stone, but I will give place to such as are craftsmen therein.

Into whatsoever houses I enter, I will enter to help the sick, and I will abstain from all intentional wrong-doing and harm, especially from abusing the bodies of man or woman, bond or free. And whatsoever I shall see or hear in the course of my profession, as well as outside my profession in my intercourse with men, if it be what should not be published abroad, I will never divulge, holding such things to be holy secrets.

Now if I carry out this oath, and break it not, may I gain for ever reputation among all men for my life and for my art; but if I break it and forswear myself, may the opposite befall me.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

hime hard wolf siding off the bat, sad

 

[Flower]

not everyone is going to focus on those 2-3
and assuming those 2-3 end up being town, what do u do next???
this isnt an SRM where u can just throw around kills willy nilly

if town plays this as vanilla (minus watcher), what is scum going to do? they can only faction kill 1 person per night

census-wise currently, scum only need 11 players dead
we can be in lylo by dp3 if scum is able to powerwolf

If you miss after N1 you just stop. I don’t see the issue.

 

[Stargate18]

You can also split the player list into 3.

First 7 players if Doc target Player 1.
Second 7 players if Doc target Player 2.
Third 7 target Player 3.

If one of those players survives you can also be sure that in that specific third must be more Mafia.

My issue with this is that its pretty easy to lead to false positives/negatives.

If one third of the playerlist has more people who have a different solve to the consensus, they'll be flagged as scum. Equally, if scum all visit the person their third is in, they won't be spotted by this.

...Also, telling scum three people that are likely to die lets them target different people for the NK, so they're less likely to make a redundant NK (which is probably the best way to limit the amount of town killed each night).

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

dem you guys r boring

 

[Alwaysmind]

I think that we should just mass role claim already.

 

[Ali v2]

not sure how u got either of those feelings from that post or my other posts brother

All your posts seem odd, fluff then planning mode, then fluff again then you ask others if your plan is "valid" or not ... You are not usually this lost

 

[Alwaysmind]

dem you guys r boring

What do the democrats have to do with this Dr. Quack.

 

[Yoho]

What we could do instead of all us of just shooting

Only 3 or 4 of us shoot a night and then rotate that lowers the chances of accidental kills by targeting the same person

 

[Flower]

My issue with this is that its pretty easy to lead to false positives/negatives.

If one third of the playerlist has more people who have a different solve to the consensus, they'll be flagged as scum. Equally, if scum all visit the person their third is in, they won't be spotted by this.

...Also, telling scum three people that are likely to die lets them target different people for the NK, so they're less likely to make a redundant NK (which is probably the best way to limit the amount of town killed each night).

Then they’re intentionally causing a mislynch if they read the player in the PoE Town and don’t follow which is throwing, so best to kill that slot.

 

[hime]

idk how its wolfsiding to not want to speedrun a game and potentially cause several misvigs but ok.
not to mention that scum is also going to be forced to basically play vanilla too so i literally dont see any downside at all.

their joat is 9-shot for crying out loud, the game was never meant to be speedrun

 

[Yoho]

I think that we should just mass role claim already.

I wanted to keep it close to the chest but im town and my role isnt powerful enough to keep it secret, Im a doctor

 

[Crowned Witch]

nah, its pretty much the only logical course of action
unless every single townie cooperates on targeting specific poe, its pretty unfeasible and the consequences can be too much

𝑆𝑐𝑎𝑟𝑒𝑑 𝑜𝑓 𝑎𝑛 𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑑𝑜𝑠𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑚𝑒𝑑𝑠? 𝐼 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑘 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑜𝑝𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑜𝑓 𝑡𝑤𝑜 𝑑𝑜𝑐𝑡𝑜𝑟𝑠 𝑡𝑒𝑎𝑚𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑢𝑝 𝑡𝑜 𝑏𝑎𝑠𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑦 𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑛 𝑖𝑛𝑡𝑜 𝑎 𝑣𝑖𝑔 𝑖𝑠 𝑎𝑛 𝑖𝑛𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑝𝑎𝑡ℎ 𝑤𝑒 𝑠ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑡𝑟𝑦 𝑜𝑢𝑡. 𝐶𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑏𝑒 𝑎𝑛 𝑒𝑓𝑓𝑒𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑣𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑎𝑝𝑦 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑦 𝑠𝑖𝑑𝑒 𝑒𝑓𝑓𝑒𝑐𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑑𝑒𝑎𝑡ℎ, 𝑏𝑢𝑡 𝑎𝑠 𝑎 𝑤𝑖𝑡𝑐ℎ 𝑑𝑜𝑐𝑡𝑜𝑟 𝐼 𝑟𝑒𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑚𝑒𝑑 𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒 𝑑𝑎𝑖𝑙𝑦 𝑑𝑜𝑠𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑑𝑒𝑎𝑡ℎ 𝑡𝑜 𝑠𝑐𝑢𝑚𝑠.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

thats the part where threadplay comes into play, you got professionals here, im gonna pack that poe with scum slots

basically no reason to assume worst case scenario when this is something in our control, if we make a bad poe, then fk it thats our fault, but if we get a good one we win. think of it as town having alot of vig shots basically. u dont have to all shoot night 1 but itd be stupid to not blast a few down poe, specially since there r no cops or whatever this game so no townies will be intentionally playing sus to survive longer and we dont need to worry about power roles hiding among poe

 

[Flower]

idk how its wolfsiding to not want to speedrun a game and potentially cause several misvigs but ok.
not to mention that scum is also going to be forced to basically play vanilla too so i literally dont see any downside at all.

their joat is 9-shot for crying out loud, the game was never meant to be speedrun

That’s where you’re wrong. Imagine we mislynch, scum have a free kill and if some Townies use their actions uncoordinated (you can always assume most want to use and not abstain) you can even cause many more deaths at night than via a coordinated targeting.

 

[hime]

If you miss after N1 you just stop. I don’t see the issue.

so hypothetically if there were 3 town kills at night and u get 1 scum the first night
u r just going to continue next night with ur 3 kills?? and what if u get no scum the second time? 5 townies dead bc u decided to speedrun

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

All your posts seem odd, fluff then planning mode, then fluff again then you ask others if your plan is "valid" or not ... You are not usually this lost

fair i guess except the lost part, figured playing it casually may be the best way to town tell my slot given the nature of the game, decent post. i'll spare u for now doctor ali

 

[Flower]

We can also just have 2 targets for safety reasons.
But not coordinating actions is dumb as fuck.