Role Madness Too Many Doctors (Game Thread)

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𝑊ℎ𝑜 𝑤𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑏𝑒𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑖𝑟𝑠𝑡 𝑘𝑖𝑛𝑔? 𝐼𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑎 𝑐𝑙𝑒𝑎𝑟 𝑚𝑎𝑗𝑜𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑦 𝑓𝑎𝑣𝑜𝑢𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑒? 𝑊𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑎𝑙𝑠𝑜 𝑐ℎ𝑜𝑜𝑠𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑚𝑜𝑠𝑡 𝑖𝑛𝑎𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑣𝑒 𝑝𝑙𝑎𝑦𝑒𝑟𝑠, 𝑠𝑜 𝑚𝑎𝑦𝑏𝑒 𝑅𝐴, 𝑂𝑟𝑐𝑎 𝑜𝑟 𝑅𝑒𝑑 𝑁𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡? 𝑊𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑞𝑢𝑒𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑏𝑖𝑔 𝐼𝐹 𝑤𝑒 𝑠ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑑𝑜 𝑖𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑤𝑎𝑦, 𝑚𝑜𝑟𝑒 𝑖𝑛𝑝𝑢𝑡 𝑤𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑏𝑒 𝑛𝑒𝑒𝑑𝑒𝑑 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑝𝑎𝑡ℎ 𝑤𝑒 𝑠ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑡𝑎𝑘𝑒.
 

Ali v2

No regret, yet, every regret.
Just woke up and am seeing I’m being tagged for various reasons.

I had several quotes of ratchet vs flower … I was with flower against ratchet until he said he does not think flower is scum but rather a displeased townie, which I completely agree with, if flower gets iced tonight though the. It’s deja vu and Ratchet is my main lynch target.

Ekko seemed bad from the start, I was the first to call his odd behavior, people just took credit for having fancy words like his playstyle was “positional” and such … he still seems lost imo

Mango I had very good reads about earlier, until he started adding somewhat questionable picks to his sus list, Hayumi being on top of these picks as I town read Hayumi, Mango can be scum.

Hime‘s closure reaction with flower seemed genuine, in all honesty I don’t read the setup too so I can see if people do the same.


Fuji I can’t read, he is not being himself this game.

I read lots of mechanical planning up to page 40, like 90% of the posts were mechanical banter between flower, ratchet, ekko, mango and again I wanted to participate then I refrained cuz at the start of the game, all I could think of was something similar to Flower’s plan and that plan was already said.

I hate D1 discussions, lots of mindgames and shitposting, took 40 pages for some actual reads to pop out, which is mentally exhausting for someone as me who likes to read every single post.
 
How am I universally town read when I have had 3 separate players try to death tunnel me today, you included? Your argument here is my suggestion should be denied because you scum read me, it doesn't actually consider my suggestion on its own merits. The past games about Kingmaker have nothing to do with this because in all of them, the King doesn't die if they choose incorrectly. This isn't formal, forced Kimgmaker, it's fluid and adaptable. Its literally designed to take thread control away from people and purely put their reads to the test. It also dissuades one of the easiest ways for scum to blend in, that is by tunneling a player they know won't be lynched yet. This way they can have their convictions tested and if they chicken out, they're going to look bad for it.

There are so many ways that this can be informative but apparently I'm to believe you just don't see it, I don't really buy that at all to be honest. And I've allowed for you arguing against it and scrambling to find something to discredit it because you want me to be scum, and the way you scum hunt is by forcefitting narratives to suit what you think is the solution, but some of the arguments you've come out with are just so hamfisted and ridiculous that I cant suspect my disbelief far enough. The ONLY thing that I see in your favour is there are a few players who I think are town, think you're town, and I'm obliged to consider their read. That, and you're actually active and not finding reasons to not post. Which you can say you've completely moved past but I'm not so sure you have.
Your only current scum readers include Alexis and myself. Nobody takes Alexis seriously and I‘m getting lynched. You have zero feasible opposition once I‘m gone.
 

Ali v2

No regret, yet, every regret.
Dr. Ali.

@Ali v2 I see you like / agree with me a lot. I noted that your last paper was published yesterday. Have you caught up on your research yet? You seemed to have. Do you have the same conclusions and/or new hypotheses?
Your posts are funny Dr. America, good healthy way funny, but I honestly liked every post from every used cuz I‘m on mobile and I get lost from what read lastly, liking posts keeps me sane.

I just posted my (up to page 40) thoughts.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
And as long as I don’t Town read you I will oppose your plan because if you’re scum you’re only gonna use it for your agenda.

Sincerely

Dr Pollen
Did you miss the multiple times I said having the likes of you or Ekko be King day 1 would be good because you were both claiming to be sure and locked on to your reads, which is a form of persuasive writing, that it makes sense to make you back up your words with action. Lo and behold, Ekko walked his read back and now thinks I'm town core lol. Almost like his scum read was performative or something.

You at least have maintained your tunnel. But let me ask you this - what do I do if you become King? Hope that you get cold feet and don't complete your death tunnel? It doesn't make any sense, you've obviously given no regard for this, just like a bot scripted to follow commands, you repeat that it's bad and can't be followed and then make up ridiculous angles to argue why all without considering the bigger picture even once. Its just no good Flower, no good at all.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Your only current scum readers include Alexis and myself. Nobody takes Alexis seriously and I‘m getting lynched. You have zero feasible opposition once I‘m gone.
Who says you're getting lynched? I'm pretty sure the player most pushing for your lynch is yourself, with your demand that you get flipped so that people then follow your legacy. Which you know isn't going to happen anyway. If you're that concerned about me having opposition then why are you rolling over and begging to be killed for it? Why not take the mantle of King and call your shot?

Just remember - heavy lies the crown.
 
Did you miss the multiple times I said having the likes of you or Ekko be King day 1 would be good because you were both claiming to be sure and locked on to your reads, which is a form of persuasive writing, that it makes sense to make you back up your words with action. Lo and behold, Ekko walked his read back and now thinks I'm town core lol. Almost like his scum read was performative or something.

You at least have maintained your tunnel. But let me ask you this - what do I do if you become King? Hope that you get cold feet and don't complete your death tunnel? It doesn't make any sense, you've obviously given no regard for this, just like a bot scripted to follow commands, you repeat that it's bad and can't be followed and then make up ridiculous angles to argue why all without considering the bigger picture even once. Its just no good Flower, no good at all.
I‘m. Not. Giving. You. What. You. Want. Because. I. Think. You. Can. Be. Scum. And. Have. An. Agenda.

Period.

It‘s oh so scummy that a player who doesn’t trust somebody doesn’t give her suspect his way.

*Rolls eyes*
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Hime wouldn't be voting you probably if you didn't insist on being as rude and inflammatory as possible. Like you encourage that and then you martyr yourself over it, it's completely illogical and makes no sense for anyone to subscribe to. I suggest if you're town you just play properly, none of the emotional gambits you're so fond of are doing you any favours here.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
I‘m. Not. Giving. You. What. You. Want. Because. I. Think. You. Can. Be. Scum. And. Have. An. Agenda.

Period.

It‘s oh so scummy that a player who doesn’t trust somebody doesn’t give her suspect his way.

*Rolls eyes*
Right. So instead of weighing the suggestion on its merits you prefer to completely misrepresenting it, make forced and fake arguments to deter it, and now you want to act like all this is common sense and should be expected. No, Flower. You can have apprehension but that shouldn't stop you from being able to weigh the plan objectively. And if you cant separate the two then you need to try harder.
 
Hime wouldn't be voting you probably if you didn't insist on being as rude and inflammatory as possible. Like you encourage that and then you martyr yourself over it, it's completely illogical and makes no sense for anyone to subscribe to. I suggest if you're town you just play properly, none of the emotional gambits you're so fond of are doing you any favours here.
Yeah, so rude to not roll over and give my suspect what he wants and oppose him at every step.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
I had several quotes of ratchet vs flower … I was with flower against ratchet until he said he does not think flower is scum but rather a displeased townie, which I completely agree with, if flower gets iced tonight though the. It’s deja vu and Ratchet is my main lynch target.
I'm going to need you to expand more on this. How do you get from A to B and why does Flower being killed implicate me after today? I think you can agree - this is nothing like day 1 of that game.
I hate D1 discussions, lots of mindgames and shitposting, took 40 pages for some actual reads to pop out, which is mentally exhausting for someone as me who likes to read every single post.
This feels genuine though.
 
𝐴𝑙𝑙 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑡𝑎𝑙𝑘 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑠𝑡𝑟𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑔𝑖𝑐 𝑎𝑝𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑎𝑐ℎ𝑒𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑒𝑛𝑑 𝑤𝑒 𝑤𝑜𝑛'𝑡 𝑏𝑒 𝑎𝑏𝑙𝑒 𝑡𝑜 𝑎𝑔𝑟𝑒𝑒 𝑜𝑛 𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑙𝑎𝑛𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑦𝑤𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑦𝑜𝑛𝑒'𝑠 𝑔𝑜𝑛𝑛𝑎 𝑠𝑢𝑏𝑚𝑖𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑖𝑟 𝑜𝑤𝑛 𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑓𝑓 𝑏𝑒𝑐𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑚𝑜𝑠𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑝ℎ𝑎𝑠𝑒 𝑖𝑠 𝑗𝑢𝑠𝑡 𝐹𝑙𝑜𝑤𝑒𝑟 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑅𝑎𝑡𝑐ℎ𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑟𝑜𝑤𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑓𝑓 𝑎𝑡 𝑒𝑎𝑐ℎ 𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟. 𝑊𝑜𝑛𝑑𝑒𝑟 𝑤ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝐸𝑘𝑘𝑜 ℎ𝑎𝑠 𝑔𝑜𝑛𝑒, ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑝𝑜𝑠𝑡𝑠 𝑎𝑟𝑒𝑛'𝑡 𝑤𝑜𝑟𝑠𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑛 𝑢𝑠𝑢𝑎𝑙 𝑏𝑢𝑡 𝑖𝑛 𝐻𝑎𝑟𝑟𝑦 𝑃𝑜𝑡𝑡𝑒𝑟 𝑚𝑎𝑓𝑖𝑎 ℎ𝑒 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑡𝑒𝑙𝑙𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑢𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑡𝑎𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑦 𝑎𝑣𝑜𝑖𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑑 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑠𝑒𝑒𝑚𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑏𝑒 𝑠𝑖𝑚𝑖𝑙𝑎𝑟 𝑡𝑜 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡 ℎ𝑒'𝑠 𝑑𝑜𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑟𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡 𝑛𝑜𝑤.
 
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