General & Others TOP 5 underrated and overrated characters

Underrated: Pedro.
If he didn't die in WCI arc, soon he can surpass the dukes and become World Strongest Minkman.
His animal race helps this too as he is based from a jaguar, an animal whose bite strength is very strong (source: google). Compared to the dukes who are just based from dog and cat.

Here are his feats:
1. Zou Luffy and his CoO didn't notice his appearance in Whale Forest. Suddenly without Luffy's knowing Pedro and his men already surrounded him.
2. Fought Tamago (which is also a strong fighter and by experience portrayal, even Sweet Commander Smoothie asked for his advice) and the result of the match: Tamago was traumatized by Pedro's Electro to the point he prepared an Electro Suit that just in case they fought again in the future. And they did, but even with the suit, Pedro still gained upper hand in their second clash.
3. Great endurance. Took out his own eye without flinching.

And here is the reason why he is really underrated: in his last moment Perospero showed upper hand against him. Perospero even literally stomped him before he activated his bombs.
 
Underrated: Gryphon
For blocking Akainu's attack
For matching Whitebeard's bisento swing

Overrated: Shanks
"Shanks blocked Akainu's attack!!! :rolleyes:" while actually Gryphon did all the job, Shanks only wielded it.
Last time Shanks tried to block another (and far weaker) attack without Gryphon's help, he got crippled.
 
There's a difference between overrating admirals with baseless statements and giving Akainu the position context places him in.

this post will end the Yonko vs Admiral debate and you will find the sense in it if you're a non-biased reader.

Overall, the Yonko are indeed more powerful than the current admirals. however, there should essentially be a single navy man capable of fighting one of them. in every supreme organization we can find that their strongest could fight a Yonko on equal footing. in the Revolutionary Army we got Dragon, among the Warlords there's Mihawk, in the Marine there was Garp and Sengoku. but the last two are much weaker than when they were in their prime days, yet the marine now are more powerful than before as Jinbe stated. how could this be correct if there is not a single man able to stand up to a Yonko among the organization that withstood the strokes of time for hundreds of years ? analyzing the context can clear this out for you.

Who has the highest influence between pirates ? the Yonko
Who has the highest influence between marines ? the Fleet Admiral

Sakazuki is indeed the Marines "Yonko" now and the navy admirals are below that level of strength. The only reason why Garp didn't become an admiral or fleet admiral before Sengoku is because he utterly despise the celestial dragons. Kong could have made Garp the fleet admiral after God Valley incident easily but Garp simply didn't want to. Sengoku on the other hand had no 1v1 fights to usurp the title unlike Sakazuki who took it by his own strength. so that's a direct parallel between Garp and Sakazuki.

During the time skip there was also two big changes Jinbe told Luffy about. Blackbeard becoming Yonko and Akainu becoming FA. yet we see another parallel hinting here between the two status being so much important to be a huge shocking news to the world. standing on top of the pirates and marine hierarchy respectfully. no Akainu won't punch holes on Kaido and Big Mom, admirals didn't stomp Whitebeard, neither the latter did. if we exterminate all these empty squabbles you can find logical verdict.

Yonko > Admiral
Yonko = Flee Admrial

We can end this debate now.
nah
"no Akainu won't punch holes on Kaido and Big Mom". none of what you have said is conclusive evidence. I am going to have to disagree.
BB simultaneous rise to being a yonko and being luffy's prime antagonist on the pirate side
could be seen as equivalent to akainu's rise as his main antagonist in the navy. The amazing thing is he takes down a yonko before he encounters those two which means he does have to surpass a yonko before he gets to both.
A lot of opinion tho on both sides. This debate is over when you can offer concrete panels and proof. kizaru willing to go to wano to faceoff big mom and kaido isnt helping your case either.
 
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He still stepped aside
End of An era that was my point

FA has always been about the strongest marine

There hasn't been a Fleet admiral weaker than admirals/VAs unless they grow weaker and then later on retires.
You said someone weaker than admirals can't lead them but Sengoku led the marines even when he has gotten weaker than the admirals. In fact, he did it for a long time. When it's true that his and Garp's retirement along with WB's death marks the end of their era, the main reason why Sengoku decided stepped down is to take the blame on himself for the events at MF. Kong still holds his position, btw. He has the power to command both WG as well as the Navy forces but I doubt he is stronger than Akainu. Being FA is more about leading the marines than fighting in frontlines. So I am not sure why you think FA must be the strongest admiral.

This whole FA= Strongest admiral thing was taken out of nowhere. Repeating the same arguments won't help us much here. I am not responding again to the same points. The fact that Aokiji was chosen to be the FA over Akainu and Kizaru when the two of them are potentially stronger should've ended the misconception that FA must be the strongest of the admirals. I am not sure why people still entertain it.
 
You said someone weaker than admirals can't lead them but Sengoku led the marines even when he has gotten weaker than the admirals. In fact, he did it for a long time. When it's true that his and Garp's retirement along with WB's death marks the end of their era, the main reason why Sengoku decided stepped down is to take the blame on himself for the events at MF. Kong still holds his position, btw. He has the power to command both WG as well as the Navy forces but I doubt he is stronger than Akainu. Being FA is more about leading the marines than fighting in frontlines. So I am not sure why you think FA must be the strongest admiral.

This whole FA= Strongest admiral thing was taken out of nowhere. Repeating the same arguments won't help us much here. I am not responding again to the same points. The fact that Aokiji was chosen to be the FA over Akainu and Kizaru when the two of them are potentially stronger should've ended the misconception that FA must be the strongest of the admirals. I am not sure why people still entertain it.
This point is missed on people
 
nah
"no Akainu won't punch holes on Kaido and Big Mom". none of what you have said is conclusive evidence. I am going to have to disagree.
BB simultaneous rise to being a yonko and being luffy's prime antagonist on the pirate side
could be seen as equivalent to akainu's rise as his main antagonist in the navy. The amazing thing is he takes down a yonko before he encounters those two which means he does have to surpass a yonko before he gets to both.
A lot of opinion tho on both sides. This debate is over when you can offer concrete panels and proof. kizaru willing to go to wano to faceoff big mom and kaido isnt helping your case either.
Talked about this in other threads to the point i got bored about it, i'm not trying to reach conclusive evidence. let's see how the story will unfold.
 
Anothers underrated characters worthy of honorable mention is Enel and Maggelan.

I'm sure Enel was set to be equal to Ace level (YC2 or YC3), but it was butchered by inconsistent power level in one piece.

Maggelan is another character underestimated for inconsistency (Luffy made him kneel). The way Jinbe, Ivankov and Crocodile feared him, I'd be surprised if he's not at least YC1.
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
They are not underrated. Enel and Magellan got pitiful showings against a guy on Lucci level and below that's it. A top tier would have one shot Luffy effortlessly DF or not
 
Both Zoro and Sanji are Overrated in my Book by people who Overrated their abilities compared to yonko commander tier lvl characters when in reality the best they did is beat some mid tiers
This would apply if it were anyone but these two. The plot tends to give them magic power ups to stay close behind Luffy. I.e neither of them should’ve stood a chance against CP9, but they got ashura and diable jambe out of the blue. Based on their feats, they shouldn’t be ready for YC1-2 characters yet, but you can bet that they’ll get random power ups when the time comes.
 
This would apply if it were anyone but these two. The plot tends to give them magic power ups to stay close behind Luffy. I.e neither of them should’ve stood a chance against CP9, but they got ashura and diable jambe out of the blue. Based on their feats, they shouldn’t be ready for YC1-2 characters yet, but you can bet that they’ll get random power ups when the time comes.
Rob Lucci was twice as strong as Jabra and Kaku.

He had 4000 Doriki while Jabra as well as Kaku were 2180 and 2200 Doriki each.
 
Underrated:
BIG MOM
Shanks (for each 1 person saying he's stronger than the rest, there are like 100 saying he's shit)
BIG MOM
Sanji (he's not that far away from you know who =P).
BIG MOM
Smoothie (how can people claim she is weak when we haven't seen her fighting? *le sigh)
BIG MOM
Smoker (but i should admit this is mostly Oda's fault x') )
BIG MOM

Overrated:
I don't want problems:believe:

See ya ~
 
This would apply if it were anyone but these two. The plot tends to give them magic power ups to stay close behind Luffy. I.e neither of them should’ve stood a chance against CP9, but they got ashura and diable jambe out of the blue. Based on their feats, they shouldn’t be ready for YC1-2 characters yet, but you can bet that they’ll get random power ups when the time comes.
Not so 'random' if they trained for it prior as shown as it was stated they had new tricks and train off-screen before going to Enies Lobby to face their challengers.
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Underrated:
BIG MOM
Shanks (for each 1 person saying he's stronger than the rest, there are like 100 saying he's shit)
BIG MOM
Sanji (he's not that far away from you know who =P).
BIG MOM
Smoothie (how can people claim she is weak when we haven't seen her fighting? *le sigh)
BIG MOM
Smoker (but i should admit this is mostly Oda's fault x') )
BIG MOM

Overrated:
I don't want problems:believe:

See ya ~
Nah, put who you think is Overrated, don't let you freedom of speech be silence by those who don't have stern to respect it :kata:.
 
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