Character Discussion Underestimation of Aokiji's Akainu hate

#1
Do people really think about this? Imagine a marine admiral is fighting with another marine admiral seriously to kill or at least heavily injure him and cripple him, as if one is a pirate and the other is a marine.



That was the first time in the entire One Piece history, just like it was the first time that Blackbeard having more than just 1 DF power.

Aokiji must be hating Akainu so much that this happened for the first time in the marine history.

Imagine yourself as a marine, and you are trying to kill your marine comrade over a higher position in the marines. This also means that Akainu too also hate Aokiji, since he accepted the fight, he didn't back down and he crippled Aokiji in the end although didn't kill him, which imo, was the worst decision that Akainu ever took.

Because I don't believe Aokiji's hate is over for Akainu.

Aokiji didn’t accept the result(?) And he refused to work under Akainu. He went to work with Blackbeard instead. Just imagine that choosing Blackbeard over Akainu when you are a marine, Aokiji not only he tried to kill or injure heavily Akainu for being the Fleet Admiral, then he refused to work under him and he preferred a PIRATE to work with instead.

And why I think Aokiji's hate is still continues for Akainu, is that because he probably guessed what will happen in Dressrosa and he told Smoker that Doflamingo is the biggest danger for the marines, Smoker simply got tricked by Aokiji's little game and he informs Akainu about Doflamingo just like Aokiji wanted.

Then what happened? Fujitora mess things up for Akainu, an Admiral begged in front of whole world from King Riku and this was a slap in the face for Akainu's marines. How Aokiji know this was going to happen? Because he knew Doflamingo's government connections and sending the marines there will only embarass them in end, and that exactly happened like the Aokiji may have planned. Now people started think Akainu's marines are so weak that an Admiral begs from a King and apologized and that's not even a higher ups like Gorousei or Celestial Dragons that an Admiral apologized and begged for forgiveness . Just a mere king from a random kingdom.

This worked perfectly for Aokiji, if he really wants to take down Akainu with different methods.

And what about the the SWORD faction inside of the marines? Are they under Akainu? If so what's the point of being secret if they are still under Akainu? Coby is a member of that secret organisation and I doubt Akainu would trust Coby after what they experienced in the marineford or that Coby would still accept to work with Akainu after everything he has seen.

If Aokiji is the secret leader of that organisation then this will mean that Aokiji didn’t give up on taking down Akainu and Aokiji is using both SWORD and Yonko Blackbeard to take down Akainu.

If Aokiji's goal is still to take down Akainu by using these organisations, then we will see that Akainu not lasting until the EoS, he might get taken down because of his failures (which caused by Aokiji) by the world government.

Aokiji will be the key to fall of Akainu. And Akainu might not be the last Fleet Admiral at the EoS before the final war against the government. Aokiji and SWORD can take over the marines, separate them, and they can leave the world government alone, which would be the better scenario because Luffy doesn't usually fights against the Marines, who are usually the good guys. Look at his fight against Fujitora, he didn't even use full strength because he likes the guy, Luffy usually has good relationship with the marines, I doubt Oda will change that.
 
#3
Aokiji will clearly be relevant in Akainu's defeat, has for sure ties with SWORD but I don't know if he is the leader, Garp seems more fitting.
The only 2 official members of SWORD are Drake and Coby, who is Garp trainee
I can see him being the number 2 but is still possible that he is the head of the organization
 
#6
You don't have to actually hate someone to have a fight to the death with them. Akainu and Aokiji believe in fundamentally opposed forms of justice, and were willing to put their lives on the line for their ideals. Akainu would not have spared Aokiji's life if he absolutely despised him.

Aokiji is obviously a spy on Blackbeard's crew, and is working to destroy them from the inside as a member of SWORD or as a solo agent. I doubt he thinks Akainu is worse than Blackbeard.
 
#8
If it was that simple Aokiji would still be a marine.
Maybe he still is? We don't know if he's undercover. There are a variety of reasons he may have resigned. I originally assumed it was because he could not tolerate Akainu's leadership. But it may be because he was impelled to resign by the dishonor he brought upon himself in challenging his comrade to a duel for leadership of the Marines, similar to the situation with Usopp and Luffy on Water 7.
 
#11
Do people really think about this? Imagine a marine admiral is fighting with another marine admiral seriously to kill or at least heavily injure him and cripple him, as if one is a pirate and the other is a marine.



That was the first time in the entire One Piece history, just like it was the first time that Blackbeard having more than just 1 DF power.

Aokiji must be hating Akainu so much that this happened for the first time in the marine history.

Imagine yourself as a marine, and you are trying to kill your marine comrade over a higher position in the marines. This also means that Akainu too also hate Aokiji, since he accepted the fight, he didn't back down and he crippled Aokiji in the end although didn't kill him, which imo, was the worst decision that Akainu ever took.

Because I don't believe Aokiji's hate is over for Akainu.

Aokiji didn’t accept the result(?) And he refused to work under Akainu. He went to work with Blackbeard instead. Just imagine that choosing Blackbeard over Akainu when you are a marine, Aokiji not only he tried to kill or injure heavily Akainu for being the Fleet Admiral, then he refused to work under him and he preferred a PIRATE to work with instead.

And why I think Aokiji's hate is still continues for Akainu, is that because he probably guessed what will happen in Dressrosa and he told Smoker that Doflamingo is the biggest danger for the marines, Smoker simply got tricked by Aokiji's little game and he informs Akainu about Doflamingo just like Aokiji wanted.

Then what happened? Fujitora mess things up for Akainu, an Admiral begged in front of whole world from King Riku and this was a slap in the face for Akainu's marines. How Aokiji know this was going to happen? Because he knew Doflamingo's government connections and sending the marines there will only embarass them in end, and that exactly happened like the Aokiji may have planned. Now people started think Akainu's marines are so weak that an Admiral begs from a King and apologized and that's not even a higher ups like Gorousei or Celestial Dragons that an Admiral apologized and begged for forgiveness . Just a mere king from a random kingdom.

This worked perfectly for Aokiji, if he really wants to take down Akainu with different methods.

And what about the the SWORD faction inside of the marines? Are they under Akainu? If so what's the point of being secret if they are still under Akainu? Coby is a member of that secret organisation and I doubt Akainu would trust Coby after what they experienced in the marineford or that Coby would still accept to work with Akainu after everything he has seen.

If Aokiji is the secret leader of that organisation then this will mean that Aokiji didn’t give up on taking down Akainu and Aokiji is using both SWORD and Yonko Blackbeard to take down Akainu.

If Aokiji's goal is still to take down Akainu by using these organisations, then we will see that Akainu not lasting until the EoS, he might get taken down because of his failures (which caused by Aokiji) by the world government.

Aokiji will be the key to fall of Akainu. And Akainu might not be the last Fleet Admiral at the EoS before the final war against the government. Aokiji and SWORD can take over the marines, separate them, and they can leave the world government alone, which would be the better scenario because Luffy doesn't usually fights against the Marines, who are usually the good guys. Look at his fight against Fujitora, he didn't even use full strength because he likes the guy, Luffy usually has good relationship with the marines, I doubt Oda will change that.
Erkan you’re making a thread that’s not about power levels? Ridiculous

someone has hacked this account. Mods should investigate
 
#14
Do people really think about this? Imagine a marine admiral is fighting with another marine admiral seriously to kill or at least heavily injure him and cripple him, as if one is a pirate and the other is a marine.



That was the first time in the entire One Piece history, just like it was the first time that Blackbeard having more than just 1 DF power.

Aokiji must be hating Akainu so much that this happened for the first time in the marine history.

Imagine yourself as a marine, and you are trying to kill your marine comrade over a higher position in the marines. This also means that Akainu too also hate Aokiji, since he accepted the fight, he didn't back down and he crippled Aokiji in the end although didn't kill him, which imo, was the worst decision that Akainu ever took.

Because I don't believe Aokiji's hate is over for Akainu.

Aokiji didn’t accept the result(?) And he refused to work under Akainu. He went to work with Blackbeard instead. Just imagine that choosing Blackbeard over Akainu when you are a marine, Aokiji not only he tried to kill or injure heavily Akainu for being the Fleet Admiral, then he refused to work under him and he preferred a PIRATE to work with instead.

And why I think Aokiji's hate is still continues for Akainu, is that because he probably guessed what will happen in Dressrosa and he told Smoker that Doflamingo is the biggest danger for the marines, Smoker simply got tricked by Aokiji's little game and he informs Akainu about Doflamingo just like Aokiji wanted.

Then what happened? Fujitora mess things up for Akainu, an Admiral begged in front of whole world from King Riku and this was a slap in the face for Akainu's marines. How Aokiji know this was going to happen? Because he knew Doflamingo's government connections and sending the marines there will only embarass them in end, and that exactly happened like the Aokiji may have planned. Now people started think Akainu's marines are so weak that an Admiral begs from a King and apologized and that's not even a higher ups like Gorousei or Celestial Dragons that an Admiral apologized and begged for forgiveness . Just a mere king from a random kingdom.

This worked perfectly for Aokiji, if he really wants to take down Akainu with different methods.

And what about the the SWORD faction inside of the marines? Are they under Akainu? If so what's the point of being secret if they are still under Akainu? Coby is a member of that secret organisation and I doubt Akainu would trust Coby after what they experienced in the marineford or that Coby would still accept to work with Akainu after everything he has seen.

If Aokiji is the secret leader of that organisation then this will mean that Aokiji didn’t give up on taking down Akainu and Aokiji is using both SWORD and Yonko Blackbeard to take down Akainu.

If Aokiji's goal is still to take down Akainu by using these organisations, then we will see that Akainu not lasting until the EoS, he might get taken down because of his failures (which caused by Aokiji) by the world government.

Aokiji will be the key to fall of Akainu. And Akainu might not be the last Fleet Admiral at the EoS before the final war against the government. Aokiji and SWORD can take over the marines, separate them, and they can leave the world government alone, which would be the better scenario because Luffy doesn't usually fights against the Marines, who are usually the good guys. Look at his fight against Fujitora, he didn't even use full strength because he likes the guy, Luffy usually has good relationship with the marines, I doubt Oda will change that.
thats actually true, nothing in the story yet justifies why aokiji really dont want akainu to have power.

we kinda know akainu is the 'end justify all means' kinda guy, so in the future there has to be another ohara incident where akainu sacrifice tons of innocence to get rid of evil.
 
#15
Do people really think about this? Imagine a marine admiral is fighting with another marine admiral seriously to kill or at least heavily injure him and cripple him, as if one is a pirate and the other is a marine.



That was the first time in the entire One Piece history, just like it was the first time that Blackbeard having more than just 1 DF power.

Aokiji must be hating Akainu so much that this happened for the first time in the marine history.

Imagine yourself as a marine, and you are trying to kill your marine comrade over a higher position in the marines. This also means that Akainu too also hate Aokiji, since he accepted the fight, he didn't back down and he crippled Aokiji in the end although didn't kill him, which imo, was the worst decision that Akainu ever took.

Because I don't believe Aokiji's hate is over for Akainu.

Aokiji didn’t accept the result(?) And he refused to work under Akainu. He went to work with Blackbeard instead. Just imagine that choosing Blackbeard over Akainu when you are a marine, Aokiji not only he tried to kill or injure heavily Akainu for being the Fleet Admiral, then he refused to work under him and he preferred a PIRATE to work with instead.

And why I think Aokiji's hate is still continues for Akainu, is that because he probably guessed what will happen in Dressrosa and he told Smoker that Doflamingo is the biggest danger for the marines, Smoker simply got tricked by Aokiji's little game and he informs Akainu about Doflamingo just like Aokiji wanted.

Then what happened? Fujitora mess things up for Akainu, an Admiral begged in front of whole world from King Riku and this was a slap in the face for Akainu's marines. How Aokiji know this was going to happen? Because he knew Doflamingo's government connections and sending the marines there will only embarass them in end, and that exactly happened like the Aokiji may have planned. Now people started think Akainu's marines are so weak that an Admiral begs from a King and apologized and that's not even a higher ups like Gorousei or Celestial Dragons that an Admiral apologized and begged for forgiveness . Just a mere king from a random kingdom.

This worked perfectly for Aokiji, if he really wants to take down Akainu with different methods.

And what about the the SWORD faction inside of the marines? Are they under Akainu? If so what's the point of being secret if they are still under Akainu? Coby is a member of that secret organisation and I doubt Akainu would trust Coby after what they experienced in the marineford or that Coby would still accept to work with Akainu after everything he has seen.

If Aokiji is the secret leader of that organisation then this will mean that Aokiji didn’t give up on taking down Akainu and Aokiji is using both SWORD and Yonko Blackbeard to take down Akainu.

If Aokiji's goal is still to take down Akainu by using these organisations, then we will see that Akainu not lasting until the EoS, he might get taken down because of his failures (which caused by Aokiji) by the world government.

Aokiji will be the key to fall of Akainu. And Akainu might not be the last Fleet Admiral at the EoS before the final war against the government. Aokiji and SWORD can take over the marines, separate them, and they can leave the world government alone, which would be the better scenario because Luffy doesn't usually fights against the Marines, who are usually the good guys. Look at his fight against Fujitora, he didn't even use full strength because he likes the guy, Luffy usually has good relationship with the marines, I doubt Oda will change that.
Wow ! I never thought you could write such an genuine and interesting theory. I got the same surprise when I was reading a @Jo_Ndule's thread on WB's propaganda.
I'm starting to consider that it's a bit unfair to put the two of you in the Crying Six label ... you deserve the All Cry spot :kata:
 
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#16
It looks like for Aokiji it was liking BB than instead hating Red Dog, for his reason to join BB Pirates.

Still, Aokiji might get his revenge from Red Dog who knows.
 
#19
I don't think Aokiji really hates Akainu or the opposite. In the end (it seems) Akainu spared Aokiji because they were comrades and I don't see Aokiji to be so petty to hate him after he spared his life. They for sure don't like each other but after that fight I doubt they will go at eachother throats if they meet. That was a fight to decide how the navy will become after Sengoku, Akainu win and that is it, it can no longer be changed (even more because now Aokiji is in the other side of the barricade).

But seeing Aokiji actually attacking fodder marines like Hibari was weird and a bit unexpected. In the end 99% he will kill no marine (or he goes Snape and kills Garp? Who knows?) still it seemed a bit weird.
 
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