Powers & Abilities Understand WHITE BEARD VS AKAINU, HAKI Luffy > Haki WB, ZORO kills Akainu.

Ashura is certainly defeating akainu ?!

  • Yes!

    Votes: 10 52.6%
  • Not!

    Votes: 4 21.1%
  • Divide it in two.

    Votes: 5 26.3%
  • Luffy does have haki better than MF WB.

    Votes: 9 47.4%
  • ZORO has more lethality than WB.

    Votes: 10 52.6%
  • AKAINU is surviving.

    Votes: 4 21.1%

  • Total voters
    19
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Sasaki Kojirō

#21
You can't read.
WB was not using CoA to defend himself in the panel you posted, precisely because he was having a heart attack.

His CoA was never penetrated.

WB's CoA could block Akainu's magma.

WB tagged Borsalino and Borsalino's VC states you need very good CoO to do so

WB > Akainu > Kaido > Luffy
WB COA can block magma thanks to its higher level weapon (one of the 12 legendary ones).
Also, he was shot dead by both BB and his crew, COA, where was he?
 
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Sasaki Kojirō

#27
The admirals' fans are frightened, why did the boys get there? Laughs.

WCI bow, Luffy learned future vision, which WB did not have in MF.
fans: Certainly admirals have FS.

Arrived in WANO, LUFFY with FS, was defeated.

Luffy acquired Haki level 2 and 3, advanced, to defeat KAIDO.

fans: Certainly, admirals have Ryou level 2 or 3.

conclusion: Luffy was defeated 3 times.

Luffy is now using advanced COC with everything he has learned in an attempt to defeat kaido.

Fans: Certainly, admirals have COC as well.
:kobeha::kobeha::kobeha:
 
#28
He will change his mind tomorrow :suresure:
Who the fuck thinks Admiral=Yonko in 2021?
This ain't 2012 anymore.
Admirals>Yonko.
No one takes this nonsense seriously. Like you guys have no leg to stand on. The only question now is how many admirals a Yonko can beat at once :kata:
After Sabo and scrubs roughed up Fujitora and Greenbull it isn't looking that good for you :datas:

Kuzan said multiple admirals must be sent for Doflamingo. The same Doflamingo that Kaido said is weak :denzimote:
Then Akainu sent a former fleet admiral to help escort Dofla. Then YC3 Jack goes and fights them and gets minor bruises and sinks two ships :jay-he:

The admirals are a disgrace :yearight:
 
#30
This topic is about how to clarify Whitebeard's condition, why ODA was so afraid to put on a healthy WB vs Navy. Let's start with the most important:

Oda on an SBS, tells us that Whitebeard went to Marineford without his life support system, and it impaired his ability
of combat, not allowing Whitebeard to fight and use his skills better, he would literally not be 100%.

having his ability to fight impaired, unable to use the best of his skills, during the war, Marco (the commander and right-hander of Whitebeard and above all a doctor), stated that Whitebeard should be able to dodge, defend , react, predict, Squardo's blow, no matter where the attack came from, be it near him, or from a reliable source, he would be able to react.
MARCO is right, because we saw Whitebeard defend himself from attacks even in his sleep, with his eyes closed.
We have assassination attempts against him, ACE who tried several times to no avail, someone who was right under his nose and among his top commanders, so MARCO's speech about "no matter where the attack comes from" really makes sense.

CoO WB can react and deal with ACE, even though it is "almost asleep", although it has never been said that WB can see the future with (coO, FS).
So he just has a good CoO, luffy is among some of the rare people in the world, with the ability to see the future, luffy, I will talk about that a little later.​

Note: notice that he has his medical equipment on all panels:
Knowing from SBS information that ODA gave us, that medical devices were preventing the progress of Whitebeard's disease, oda decided to give a different representation to one of the YONKOUS, SHANKS, ODA made SHANKS collide with Whitebeard using their medical devices, so this is clearly a Whitebeard being able to enjoy all his skills, because thanks to the devices, his disease is contained.

Thanks to his medical equipment, he could use COC, and of course keep his skills as CoA, CoO, at a good level, at a decent level.
In the confrontation, you can see the medical equipment wires around the WB's body.
Now let's start talking about why your 3 types of HAKI, in marineford, are very bad, they are well below the current Luffy, with the ability to predict the future, (FS), CoA with Haki barrier (level 2) , and Ryou stage 3, and maximum of the defensive and offensive Haki using in conjunction with COC.

Let's start with the White Beard CoO, he was not able to deflect / predict, a frontal attack, MARCO still says that if it were the WB from before, that WB that we saw reacting to the ACE attacks, he could have managed to deal with this attack without any problems.


Humiliating Whitebeard in CoO, yes, guys, Luffy after two years of training with Rayleigh, left the island, with a better CoO than Whitebeard MF, and we are not even talking about the current Luffy CoO, which has the ability to predict few seconds in the future.
Luffy vs Pacifista, notice the distance he is, from a Laser that with 100% certainty is much faster than SQUARD.
Of course, it's a laser of the character called: LILARU, which Luffy called SLOW.
I don't need to go into a discussion and explain why the current Luffy CoO is so much better than that of WB MF, right? We are doing a comparison of the WB with the luffy Post TS, without having the FS yet, and the WB has already lost to him.

We will be discussing, COA defensive, starting now.
Whitebeard has not shown to have an effective protective HAKI, we are talking about the WSM, which had its body pierced by random sailors' bullets and swords, who is currently / Today, post-jump, being pierced using COA by random bullets and swords?
To give you an idea, I will post several situations in which other people's HAKI was much more effective than that of WB in MF.
Realize that Tashigi is> Any random sailor in HAKI. @5000 ng/dl or death

Well, there are more characters using CoA defensively and managing to escape unscathed, from much bigger and stronger attacks, compared to sword attacks and bullet shots, from the navy random ones. Luffy defending himself from the doflamingo wires, Luffy defending himself from Cracker, etc ...
Needless to say about Kaido and BM's skin.
And the demonstration of the White Beard CoA compared to the other characters above is this:
It is no wonder how much this defensive HAKI is below the current Luffy COA, Whitebeard received most of the damage from bullets, mere bullets and sailors swords, no wonder, that BB killed him with 1 bullet.:yearight::yearight::yearight:...

If your CoA was defensively stagnant in this mediocre situation, your COA is offensively impaired as well, as one works together with the other.
Which of course, demonstrates an absurd inferiority in lethality, yes lethality, luffy and zoro have more lethality than MF WB.
The white beard with an attack that generated a gigantic shock wave, which had to be contained by the 3 admirals, knocked out the giant john.


You may be thinking, my God, how much lethality and damage this WB attack has, it certainly killed the giant.
But no, WB and his attack failed to kill him, just knocked him out.
GURA is exaggerated because it generates vibrations that affect the environment around it, so the damage is not compacted, it is expanded, people do not know how WB DF works, and I will not explain it either.
But be aware that it is an exaggerated DF, in terms of destruction, and not in AP + lethality.
For example, to knock out a giant, you need no more than a g2 punch, from DR (dressrosa) luffy, who is much weaker than his current state.
Note the WB's exaggeration in knocking out just one giant, he didn't even kill him.
casually luffy does that.
Imagine g4 luffy punching the giant, Luffy would have killed the giant, now imagine g4 luffy with Ryou? now imagine luffy with Ryou + Coc in G4?
We are talking about manga in which nobody dies (practically), but if there is an easier class to kill your opponent it is the swordsmen, and that is where ZORO comes in.
We are starting to talk about AP + Lethality, and ignoring WB Haki vs Luffy, since WB lost to Luffy in all aspects, just to complete, Luffy's current blows are reinforced with COC, something that MF WB was unable to do, his COC was inactive in MF, due to the decline in his health, his illness affecting him both physically and mentally.
To start talking about how ZORO manages to kill AKAINU.

Let's see SAKAZUKI AKAINU in MF and his performance, until the moment he received the coup, from Whitebeard:
Okay, we analyzed, until the moment he received the coup from the WB, he had not received a single coup in the whole war, he was with 100% of his strength, resistance. Which means that a single blow, carried out by the WB, with rotten COA levels, temporarily defeated AKAINU.

In the first punch AKAINU received in the war, he started to sweat and cough a lot of blood, his appearance changed a lot.
With a fifth category HAKI, as explained above (in the comparison between Luffy and WB haki), WB knocked out AKAINU, who was unable to return to the fight for a few chapters.
With just two strokes, and we already know that this exaggeration in the WB coup does not mean anything, he exaggerated a giant that is alive.
Akainu received a blow that divided 30% of MF, and not the whole island, and even that 30% is not with the damage concentrated in akainu, the WB vibrations travel / travel around the surroundings causing destruction.
Destruction level, as I explained, 30% of the island, and not the whole island, and even so the damage is not concentrated.
Let's do a quick comparison of ZORO.
VERSUS
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MF is a very small island, if you take PICA and put it in this gap that WB made, it will fill everything.
And we can see from the ZORO cuts the amount of lethality that has in them, they are widely clean cuts.

And this only in his version of DR, we saw the amount of lethality and attack power he gained when receiving ENMA, he cut a cliff with a casual attack.
Chinjao was able to divide the Continente Ice in two with a header.
Zoro has a HAKI better than WB MF, as well as luffy, ZORO managed to cut KAIDO, any cut in KAIDO, be it tiny, it is serious for any character that does not have the resistance and durability of kaido, and we know that akainu does not have this resistance and durability, for example, DAISEN SEKAI of the current ZORO, is breaking the giant JOHN into 2 pieces in MF, and killing him, agree? His skin is like butter for someone who cut KAIDO.
Nor are we talking about ZORO's strongest attack, ASHURA, which left a scar on KAIDO, who is the strongest man in the world and the most durable.

The amount of lethality and AP you need to do this is absurd.We saw 4 red scabbards combine their attacks and they didn't even come close to causing / leaving a scar in KAIDO.
Akainu's stamina is overestimated for someone who fell with 2 blows.
Akainu broke some bones which shows that the lethality was not so great and absurd, akainu logically was using the defensive COA to reduce the damage, and even then he was out for several chapters, ZORO received the strongest attack of the series, for a few seconds and probably broke all the bones in the body, and was in the same chapter, fighting standing up, which shows that AKAINU’s resistance isn’t all that nonsense that people talk about, so you can catch a glimpse of a tough character we have KAIDO , which resisted the following attacks:


The damage with he take so far:
-Get cut by Kiku in the hand
-Get pierced together by Ashura,Kinemon,Denjiro in the stomach(Attack Sunachii)
-Crush with full force into the ground
-Get cut in mouth by Kinemon Foxfire Style Flamerend
Chapter 992(Take damage by each of all Scabbards personal attacks+combinate attack in the end)
-Take a attack from Nekomamushi´s Crimson Cat Dance
-Get cut by Kawamatsu´s River of sea
-Get pierced by Inuarashi´s Canine Scourge
-Get cut by Okiku´s Fallen Snow Scythes
-Get cut by Izo´s Slicing rounds
-Take his own boro breath by Raizo counter attack:Scrolling Jutsu Restoration
-Get cut by a combinate attack Paradise Totsuka(Group attack of Kinemon,Denjiro,Ashura and Inuarashi)

Note:(Take all the attacks from Ryou user, the last one was even with a Ryo+black hardening)
-Get pierced by Denjiro in the left body side
Note:(Take in mind that Oda offpanel the rest of the Scabbards vs Kaido fight for at least 4chapters, so he could even tank more attacks during that time, sadly we don´t have any proof for it, so probably the anime show later more stuff, until then he only take one attack in chapter 996)
-Get punched by Luffy G3 Red Roc(Adv penetration haki)
- Take damage by Zoro´s Purgatory Onigiri
- Take damage by Killer´s Beheading Claws
- Get punched by Luffy G4 Kong gun
- Get squash by Kidßs Punk Vise
- Get attacked by Law Takt via throwing sharp stones at him

Chapter 1002(Take attacks from all supernovas(expect Zoro)
- Get punched by Luffy Kong Rifle
- Get hit by Kid Gibson slam
- Take Law´s Gammaknife who was pointed against his heart
- Tank Killer´s Sonic Scythe(internal damage)
- Get kicked by Luffy rio schneider
- Get punched by Luffy Kong Gatling


So far all attacks with Kaido take until to the current chapter:
-Get cut by Kiku in the hand
-Get pierced together by Ashura,Kinemon,Denjiro in the stomach(Attack Sunachii)
-Crush with full force into the ground
-Get cut in mouth by Kinemon Foxfire Style Flamerend
-Take a attack from Nekomamushi´s Crimson Cat Dance
-Get cut by Kawamatsu´s River of sea
-Get pierced by Inuarashi´s Canine Scourge
-Get cut by Okiku´s Fallen Snow Scythes
-Get cut by Izo´s Slicing rounds
-Take his own boro breath by Raizo counter attack:Scrolling Jutsu Restoration
-Get cut by a combinate attack Paradise Totsuka(Group attack of Kinemon,Denjiro,Ashura and Inuarashi)
-Get pierced by Denjiro in the left body side
-Get punched by Luffy G3 Red Roc(Adv penetration haki)
- Take damage by Zoro´s Purgatory Onigiri
- Take damage by Killer´s Beheading Claws
- Get punched by Luffy G4 Kong gun
- Get squash by Kidßs Punk Vise
- Get attacked by Law Takt via throwing sharp stones at him
- Get punched by Luffy Kong Rifle
- Get hit by Kid Gibson slam
- Take Law´s Gammaknife who was pointed against his heart
- Tank Killer´s Sonic Scythe(internal damage)
- Get kicked by Luffy rio schneider
- Get punched by Luffy Kong Gatling


And after taking all these attacks his current status:


I kinda understand now why it is so hard to beat or kill Kaido, why Big mom hype him up back then in chapter 871.
The impressiv thing about him is not just his tough/hard skin/durability but also his endurance+health power is phenomenal insane strong.
It is like he didn´t take any damage so far even though he taking tons of ryou attacks who actually damage and hurt him.
The case to beat Kaido will be very hard, you basically need to hurt him so deep so he cannot recover very fast with is almost impossible, the last time who actually hurt him enough was Oden which Kaido hype until now.

Let see how much attacks/damage Kaido tank from now, but it is crazy how Kaido still walking like he didn´t take any attack.
I gonna upgrade the thread with every new fight scene where Kaido tanking attacks, so far the fight just start and yet Kaido take a lot of attacks, it is just insane, for sure he gonna take the spot as number one villian who tank the most damage/attacks until now.

- He recently TANKOU and resisted ASHURA ZORO + COC, without falling. He resisted an injection of LAW in the neck, and several punches of LUFFY with COC applied, COC + Ryou + Protagonism, all the misfortune applied.

And kaido remains on his feet fighting after that, while AKAINU does not have as much resistance, he was defeated in 2 blows, blows that have no more lethality than ASHURA zoro, among all blows that KAIDO received, nor blows that have more lethality than luffy punches from ryou + Coc applied, and we know that haki's from luffy are much better than MF WB.
Yes, and if you are wondering, if akainu lost to WB who had HAKI and worse lethality than Luffy and ZORO, you are absolutely right, he was defeated by WB, who is inferior to Luffy at this point.
ZORO ASHURA + COC, is shooting anyone, not including KAIDO and BIG MOM.​

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Sasaki Kojirō

#33
The admirals' fans are frightened, why did the boys get there? Laughs.

WCI bow, Luffy learned future vision, which WB did not have in MF.
fans: Certainly admirals have FS.

Arrived in WANO, LUFFY with FS, was defeated.

Luffy acquired Haki level 2 and 3, advanced, to defeat KAIDO.

fans: Certainly, admirals have Ryou level 2 or 3.

conclusion: Luffy was defeated 3 times.

Luffy is now using advanced COC with everything he has learned in an attempt to defeat kaido.

Fans: Certainly, admirals have COC as well.

What will happen if kizaru and akainu do not have COC? In fact, according to the CARDS, none of them have COC.
And now LARINES?

FS, and RYOU, that all this time you fought in the guesswork to prove that the LARINES possessed, is not enough to defeat KAIDO ...
:suresure::suresure::suresure::suresure::suresure::suresure::suresure::suresure:
 
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