Controversial Understanding Oda's strongest titles

[HerreraIsBack]

So pretty simple. When Oda gives such title as the strongest he really means it.

First one was Mihawk. Unquestionably the strongest swordsman in the world. Anyone using a sword as form of combat is inferior to him. That simple. "B-but Vista stalled him" that just makes Vista a fucking monster and probably on pair with Shanks. Cry about it. Key point is, we don't know WHEN he became the strongest and who was the previous if we had one.

Then we had Whitebeard. Not Primebeard. But Oldbeard. He even said he couldn't remain the strongest forever. But he still was. He died as the strongest. We had fucking Fleet Admiral daying he was the mother fucking strongest.

Later on we had Kaido title. Strongest creature. Unlike Whitebeard that was strongest man. Kaido is an Oni so creature for hor him. But still given AFTER Whitebeard disease. So we don't know if he was already strongest creature before or not. And also if that includes men or not.

So yeah Kaido was the strongest at least not considering any humans. And now not fully clear but we have Oda implying Loki is the strongest of the world, despite later chapters getting a beating from Imu. But how could that be?

Assuming Loki is currently the strongest we have those following possibilities.

1. He used to be the strongest overall and then when he got chained he no longer was that's why Kaido became the strongest.
2. He somehow got stronger after Kaido died while being chained. Wouldn't be so absurd considering Crocodile Impel Down boost or Luffy and Kid Udon training.
3. The classic, Oda is full of shit and making anything up to beg readers to remain interested in his story.
4. The strongest title doesn't really mean the strongest.
5. Oda is hinting Giants and Ancient Giants are also humans, maybe humans evolved to become smaller.

 

[Mr. Anderson]

You forgot Option 4. The Strongest titles do not mean:

Unquestionably the strongest.

You're more willing to accept Oda is full of shit than to just admit the obvious?

Loki was always stronger. Its pretty clear at this stage in the story that the titles are not definitive.

 

[Dickie D. Dick]

Zoroach is a fodder, get over it.

 

[HerreraIsBack]

You forgot Option 4. The Strongest titles do not mean:


You're more willing to accept Oda is full of shit than to just admit the obvious?

Loki was always stronger. Its pretty clear at this stage in the story that the titles are not definitive.

True. I will add to it. But this could also be a hint from Oda that giants and ancient giants are also humans!

 

[RiShin]

Titles means shit, oda has made it quite clear and it time for people to move on.
Whitebeard - WSM is beneath Imu and it more for how great of a pirate he was.
Kaido - WSC was about how he couldn't die till oda laid out how advance COC is the key to harming him and beating him. Also beneath Imu
WSS - hawkeye.. very amusing that Oda is doing him so dirty.
Garp - hate his hero title because it's a fraduant title.
Lastly the pirate king - exploring title and made by the WG.

 

[Loki D. Terror]

Kaido and WB's title turned to be massively fraudulent. Feat wise mihawk also has looked mid.

 

[WaidoWSC]

Kaido and WB's title turned to be massively fraudulent. Feat wise mihawk also has looked mid.

Because of Imu.

Also Kaido was never offically the WSC, rather rumored.

Oda never gave him the title definitely unlike WSS Mihawk and WSM WHITEBEARD

 

[Loki D. Terror]

Because of Imu.

Also Kaido was never offically the WSC, rather rumored.

Oda never gave him the title definitely unlike WSS Mihawk and WSM WHITEBEARD

Both imu and loki shits on all 3.

 

[HerreraIsBack]

Both imu and loki shits on all 3.

Nah they don't

 

[MUUGEN]

So pretty simple. When Oda gives such title as the strongest he really means it.

First one was Mihawk. Unquestionably the strongest swordsman in the world. Anyone using a sword as form of combat is inferior to him. That simple. "B-but Vista stalled him" that just makes Vista a fucking monster and probably on pair with Shanks. Cry about it. Key point is, we don't know WHEN he became the strongest and who was the previous if we had one.

Then we had Whitebeard. Not Primebeard. But Oldbeard. He even said he couldn't remain the strongest forever. But he still was. He died as the strongest. We had fucking Fleet Admiral daying he was the mother fucking strongest.

Later on we had Kaido title. Strongest creature. Unlike Whitebeard that was strongest man. Kaido is an Oni so creature for hor him. But still given AFTER Whitebeard disease. So we don't know if he was already strongest creature before or not. And also if that includes men or not.

So yeah Kaido was the strongest at least not considering any humans. And now not fully clear but we have Oda implying Loki is the strongest of the world, despite later chapters getting a beating from Imu. But how could that be?

Assuming Loki is currently the strongest we have those following possibilities.

1. He used to be the strongest overall and then when he got chained he no longer was that's why Kaido became the strongest.
2. He somehow got stronger after Kaido died while being chained. Wouldn't be so absurd considering Crocodile Impel Down boost or Luffy and Kid Udon training.
3. The classic, Oda is full of shit and making anything up to beg readers to remain interested in his story.
4. The strongest title doesn't really mean the strongest.
5. Oda is hinting Giants and Ancient Giants are also humans, maybe humans evolved to become smaller.

lol


nice lihawk wank thread


i've never heard of a single person who lihawk has defeated

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

So pretty simple. When Oda gives such title as the strongest he really means it.

First one was Mihawk. Unquestionably the strongest swordsman in the world. Anyone using a sword as form of combat is inferior to him. That simple. "B-but Vista stalled him" that just makes Vista a fucking monster and probably on pair with Shanks. Cry about it. Key point is, we don't know WHEN he became the strongest and who was the previous if we had one.

Then we had Whitebeard. Not Primebeard. But Oldbeard. He even said he couldn't remain the strongest forever. But he still was. He died as the strongest. We had fucking Fleet Admiral daying he was the mother fucking strongest.

Later on we had Kaido title. Strongest creature. Unlike Whitebeard that was strongest man. Kaido is an Oni so creature for hor him. But still given AFTER Whitebeard disease. So we don't know if he was already strongest creature before or not. And also if that includes men or not.

So yeah Kaido was the strongest at least not considering any humans. And now not fully clear but we have Oda implying Loki is the strongest of the world, despite later chapters getting a beating from Imu. But how could that be?

Assuming Loki is currently the strongest we have those following possibilities.

1. He used to be the strongest overall and then when he got chained he no longer was that's why Kaido became the strongest.
2. He somehow got stronger after Kaido died while being chained. Wouldn't be so absurd considering Crocodile Impel Down boost or Luffy and Kid Udon training.
3. The classic, Oda is full of shit and making anything up to beg readers to remain interested in his story.
4. The strongest title doesn't really mean the strongest.
5. Oda is hinting Giants and Ancient Giants are also humans, maybe humans evolved to become smaller.

World’s Fastest Swordsman Big Daddy Saran

 

[HerreraIsBack]

lol


nice lihawk wank thread


i've never heard of a single person who lihawk has defeated

He is known as pirate hunter and used to be marine hunter. We know he used to duel Shanks and he is the strongest while Shanks is not. So most likely he won over Shanks.

 

[HerreraIsBack]

World’s Fastest Swordsman Big Daddy Saran

I have no idea what that means

 

[RiShin]

He is known as pirate hunter and used to be marine hunter. We know he used to duel Shanks and he is the strongest while Shanks is not. So most likely he won over Shanks.

Then why it never confirm in the manga? You do know it easy for Oda to say Hawkeye did in fact beat Shanks in a duel.

 

[MUUGEN]

He is known as pirate hunter and used to be marine hunter. We know he used to duel Shanks and he is the strongest while Shanks is not. So most likely he won over Shanks.

when was he ever called pirate hunter & he has clearly never faced anyone of the top tier marines like an admiral or above cause we wouldve gotten mention og this by now.

imagine being called the strongest with the strongest sword and superior swordskill yet still never beat pre-yonko Shanks...

 

[HerreraIsBack]

Then why it never confirm in the manga? You do know it easy for Oda to say Hawkeye did in fact beat Shanks in a duel.

Mihawk is the strongest swordsman. He used to have insane duels that even Whitebeard praised it with Shanks. It is pretty much implied.

 

[HerreraIsBack]

when was he ever called pirate hunter & he has clearly never faced anyone of the top tier marines like an admiral or above cause we wouldve gotten mention og this by now.

imagine being called the strongest with the strongest sword and superior swordskill yet still never beat pre-yonko Shanks...

The whole Shichibukai system is meant to hunt pirates in Paradise while Yonko do it in New World. It is basically that.

We met Mihawk hunting Krieg just for fun. Zoro being a pirate hunter for bounties and willing to become what Mihawk is, was another parallel that Oda made for him.

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

when was he ever called pirate hunter & he has clearly never faced anyone of the top tier marines like an admiral or above cause we wouldve gotten mention og this by now.

imagine being called the strongest with the strongest sword and superior swordskill yet still never beat pre-yonko Shanks...

He beat Marine captains and Commodores

 

[MUUGEN]

The whole Shichibukai system is meant to hunt pirates in Paradise while Yonko do it in New World. It is basically that.

We met Mihawk hunting Krieg just for fun. Zoro being a pirate hunter for bounties and willing to become what Mihawk is, was another parallel that Oda made for him.

lol no its not,,,

he went after krieg cause krieg woke him up during naptime.....

& no this isnt another parallel

 

[MUUGEN]

He beat Marine captains and Commodores