I too want to have a family of myself one day. Whats so selfish about that? So dying man cant have a family?a sick man cant have a family ? People who is weak cannot dream to have family? Is that what your saying?
If you wont show your family love, you're being selfish and that's a bad act.
If you aren't around to care for your family, you're being selfish and that's a bad act.
If you get your family in trouble, you're being selfish and that's a bad act.
Roger, despite being the most wanted and hated pirate in history, embodied all three of these failures as a parent perfectly.
There was not a single thing which Ace got from his father which he had wanted. There wasn't even a hope of ever meeting him.
Ace didn't even get to use him as a role model. The only positive word he'd ever heard about Roger was from Garp, and yet Garp's stance on Roger to Ace would've clearly been "I'll raise you so that you'll become a marine instead of like your no-good father". Roger's existence is now something that Ace has to atone for and prove himself far removed from, and that's the best scenario.
To be honest i dont really think the reason why ace hates him is because of roger selfishness to have a kid. he hates roger because of those negative people that ace encountered whenever ace ask them about roger. I dont think he hates roger because of that, if ace hated him of that then he wouldve become a evil guy.
I'm sure Coby hated Roger at the start of One Piece as well, considering how he viewed pirates before meeting Luffy. Did that make Coby evil? Of course not. Coby was ignorant at best.
Hell, even from what little we've seen, there would've been plenty of reason to hate Roger.
You remember how unlike Whitebeard, Roger never ran from the Marines? Can you imagine the number of relatively innocent people he might've killed?
And we know that Roger's policy included killing even if it it was against fodder. Squard's backstory had Roger killing his entire crew.
Then let's not forget what Roger's existence meant for the rest of the world. You could cite the entire Ohara Massacre as Roger's fault for try to look into history. And all of those minor evil pirates we met during the first half of the story wouldn't be inspiring terror if it wasn't for Roger's promise of the One Piece.
I think those times ace ask people about roger thise negative thoughts had an impact on him thats why he doesnt wanna become that people thinks about roger but the more we know about roger he exactly like luffy
We've already seen PLENTY of differences and none of them speak very positively for Roger's character, the killing thing being the biggest.
They have a similar mindset in several things, and it seems that they share the same ultimate dream, but we don't know anything else.
which in the way i think what we see on luffy it was because of ace impact on luffy’s life, ace thought him to not hurt people and live life as much as you want, help people without asking in return ace teached those things to luffy.
Reread/watch the Ace flashback. If anything, Luffy taught those qualities to Ace rather than the other way around.
Ace was a horrible child pre-luffy and it was indeed, all Roger's fault.
