US Presidental Race : 2020

[Monkey D Theories]

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@Monkey D Theories

Of course they'd support him.
Bernie is literally trying to take away their right to be a private healthcare provider.

I don't see what your trying to prove. Bernie really has y'all brainwashed into thinking that all corporations and billionaires are innately evil.

Biden is corrupt loony son , I am surprised you havent seen much what happened in last 48 hrs . Buttigeg and Amy were forced to leave the campaign and warren continuing the campaign should tell you no one gives a shit about bernie's dream haha .

Eitherway progressive voters will now sit out or probably vote trump , Do you really think joe will beat trump with so much struggle in his campaign that upper echloen have to come down and make path for his win ?

What do you mean "forced". They were unviable. By the end of South Carolina, it had basically become a two person race. Their choices were to either stay in and split the moderate vote, giving bernie the nomination, or consolidate around biden, with the hope that they can get cabinet positions in Biden's administration. They did the smart thing.

Frankly the only reason I dont think Warren dropped out is because I think she's conspiring against Bernie. That she made some sort of deal with Biden where she'd become VP if she stayed in to sabotage bernie.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Of course they'd support him.
Bernie is literally trying to take away their right to be a private healthcare provider.

I don't see what your trying to prove. Bernie really has y'all brainwashed into thinking that all corporations and billionaires are innately evil.



What do you mean "forced". They were unviable. By the end of South Carolina, it had basically become a two person race. Their choices were to either stay in and split the moderate vote, giving bernie the nomination, or consolidate around biden, with the hope that they can get cabinet positions in Biden's administration. They did the smart thing.

Frankly the only reason I dont think Warren dropped out is because I think she's conspiring against Bernie. That she made some sort of deal with Biden where she'd become VP if she stayed in to sabotage bernie.

Don’t get it twisted - working for corporations and seeing the excess greed of billionaires my entire life made me think they’re evil. Bernie simply parrots the beliefs I’ve always held, and actually has/is running for the power to change it.

 

[Shiroyru]

Of course they'd support him.
Bernie is literally trying to take away their right to be a private healthcare provider.

I don't see what your trying to prove. Bernie really has y'all brainwashed into thinking that all corporations and billionaires are innately evil.



What do you mean "forced". They were unviable. By the end of South Carolina, it had basically become a two person race. Their choices were to either stay in and split the moderate vote, giving bernie the nomination, or consolidate around biden, with the hope that they can get cabinet positions in Biden's administration. They did the smart thing.

Frankly the only reason I dont think Warren dropped out is because I think she's conspiring against Bernie. That she made some sort of deal with Biden where she'd become VP if she stayed in to sabotage bernie.

Price gouging people who need medicine to stay alive isn’t evil!

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Price gouging people who need medicine to stay alive isn’t evil!

But Shiro, HOW will those disgustingly rich CEOs be able to afford all their houses and yachts and jets and employees and Faberge eggs and marble statues?? There’s a chance that their great-great-great-great (repeating forever) grandchildren MIGHT have to actually WORK a REGULAR job like everybody posting in this thread!!

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Price gouging people who need medicine to stay alive isn’t evil!

i never said that. Just that these companies have the right to exist.
Bernie doesn't believe that. Bernie doesn't believe that private insurers have the right to exist.

Biden= I'll give you cheap government subsidized healthcare but you can choose your private option if you like
Bernie= I will seize the means of production and force you to buy government healthcare

Hence I say that bernie is an authoritarian.

 

[Just a member]

Just a curiosity. What about third parties in America? I mean what is left beside the democratics and the republicans?

At this point it is clear that certain ideas are not welcome in the dem nor in the republicans (maybe because in the end the sponsors are the same?) so what about other parties? Are they allowed to run the presidentials or what? Just curious.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Just a curiosity. What about third parties in America? I mean what is left beside the democratics and the republicans?

At this point it is clear that certain ideas are not welcome in the dem nor in the republicans (maybe because in the end the sponsors are the same?) so what about other parties? Are they allowed to run the presidentials or what? Just curious.

That’s the problem - third parties have about as much relevancy in modern day America as typewriters and pay phones. The middle ground has completely disappeared, there are no “socially liberal/fiscally conservative” types anymore (at least not in my personal experience), you either identify with the party platform or you’re labeled an extremist/“alt” member.

Bernie has the kind of following he’s cultivated by going against both sides (while registering as the one that most closely aligns with his ideology for this very reason) and trying to drag the Democratic Party into the 21st century/pointing out all the ways the GOP is still living in the 1950s. Honestly, however this next election shakes out, I could see third parties becoming more numerous just because so many people are tired of seeing the same retread shit from the current two every couple of years.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

i never said that. Just that these companies have the right to exist.
Bernie doesn't believe that. Bernie doesn't believe that private insurers have the right to exist.

Biden= I'll give you cheap government subsidized healthcare but you can choose your private option if you like
Bernie= I will seize the means of production and force you to buy government healthcare

Hence I say that bernie is an authoritarian.

Every single CEO could take a 70 percent annual pay cut TODAY, redistribute that wealth among their employees/PAY THEIR GOD DAMN FAIR SHARE OF TAXES, and still set all their families up for generations to come. The only thing that changes for them in that scenario is that common people like us are much better off in life, which is a thought they can’t fucking stand. If we had an iota of the class solidarity amongst ourselves that rich people across the political spectrum have with each other, there would be a much more equal share of wealth for everybody in this country...but please, keep telling me why access to healthcare isn’t a guaranteed human right, but owning a corporation should be.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

ceo's in reality dont have to pay that much in order to redistribute it.
canadian here leaving in the states
socialism aint that bad guys. but its certainly going to take time. its inevitable anyway. younger people want it and it shows.

 

[Homelander]

Of course they'd support him.
Bernie is literally trying to take away their right to be a private healthcare provider.

I don't see what your trying to prove. Bernie really has y'all brainwashed into thinking that all corporations and billionaires are innately evil.



What do you mean "forced". They were unviable. By the end of South Carolina, it had basically become a two person race. Their choices were to either stay in and split the moderate vote, giving bernie the nomination, or consolidate around biden, with the hope that they can get cabinet positions in Biden's administration. They did the smart thing.

Frankly the only reason I dont think Warren dropped out is because I think she's conspiring against Bernie. That she made some sort of deal with Biden where she'd become VP if she stayed in to sabotage bernie.

Nah Warren will never be VP i ll make another post why moderates dont want warren at all , i would say they ll go for someone like Buttigeg or Kamla Harris . Have you seen his vote share ? He was eating into biden's white voter, if he was still in the race biden's vote would have been split the key states which biden won narrowly would have gone to Bernie .

 

[Homelander]

Don’t get it twisted - working for corporations and seeing the excess greed of billionaires my entire life made me think they’re evil. Bernie simply parrots the beliefs I’ve always held, and actually has/is running for the power to change it.

To be fair man Bernie's vote is on decline compared to his 2016 , Lets look at his home state Vermont where Biden never campaigned but still won 5 Delegates ? Do you know what that means ? Bernie could not protect his own home turf he won easily over clinton in 2016 , the vote share has collapsed nationally , NH and Iowa should have been Bernie's turf btw but Buttigeg made significant gain in those place i was really doubtful about Bernie's magic number in the Convention .

Biden knew he just needed one primary victory to have his backing . South Carolina gave him the boost for other democrat to rally behind him its all number games they saw Bernie was not doing well with black voters in south which is the key in elections if they want to take on Trump . However let's look at state by state where Dem lost last time Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

Bernie is losing to Biden relatively in swing states compared to other white dominated state . It does make sense Establishment went ahead with less popular choice Biden . In the swing states like Florida he is better positioned against trump even Fox made the recent polling where Biden beats Trump easily in Michigan and Florida . Its all Stats and number but Dems are over looking at Long term polls there is still lot of time for Trump to recover his lost ground and Biden has been terrible in debates at times making gaffes and his past with women is bad . He defended badly against the videos claimimg to be out of touch , this will be replied to white rural voters who are religious people and biden has not given decent explanation on it . He is going as weakest Dem candidate since Kerry and McGovern .

 

[Jew D. Boy]

To be fair man Bernie's vote is on decline compared to his 2016 , Lets look at key state like Vermont where Biden never campaigned but still won 5 Delegates ? Do you know what that means ? Bernie could not protect his own home turf he won easily over clinton in 2016 , the vote share has collapsed nationally , NH and Iowa should have been Bernie's turf btw but Buttigeg made significant gain in those place i was really doubtful about Bernie's magic number in the Convention .

Biden knew he just needed one primary victory to have his backing . South Carolina gave him the boost for other democrat to rally behind him its all number games they saw Bernie was not doing well in black voters in south which is the key in south if they want to take on Trump . However let's look at state by state where Dem lost last time Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

Bernie is losing to Biden relatively in swing states compared to other white dominated state . It does make sense Establishment went ahead with less popular choice Biden . In the swing states like Florida he is better positioned against trump even Fox made the recent polling where Biden beats Trump easily in Michigan and Florida . Its all Stats and number but Dems are over looking at Long term polls there is still lot of time for Trump to recover his lost ground and Biden has been terrible in debates at times making gaffes and his past with women is bad . He defended badly against why e was sniffing the kids claining to be out of touch this will be replied to white rural voters who are religious people and biden has not given decent explanation on it . He is going as weakest Dem candidate since Kerry and McGovern .

I really, REALLY hate paraphrasing Lindsey Graham, but if/when the Democrats nominate Biden over Bernie, we will lose and we will deserve it.

 

[Homelander]

That’s the problem - third parties have about as much relevancy in modern day America as typewriters and pay phones. The middle ground has completely disappeared, there are no “socially liberal/fiscally conservative” types anymore (at least not in my personal experience), you either identify with the party platform or you’re labeled an extremist/“alt” member.

Bernie has the kind of following he’s cultivated by going against both sides (while registering as the one that most closely aligns with his ideology for this very reason) and trying to drag the Democratic Party into the 21st century/pointing out all the ways the GOP is still living in the 1950s. Honestly, however this next election shakes out, I could see third parties becoming more numerous just because so many people are tired of seeing the same retread shit from the current two every couple of years.

Kennedy , FDR were more socialist than Bernie Sanders if you ever read their campaign speech you would think what was america like in 1950s . Socialism is a word that has put people in fear they look at Venezuela , Mexico , Hondorus and Soviet Union . The word is so misleading people think both communism and socialism are the same , Britain has socialist setting but has capitalist Free market its doing well so people nver really thought about UK is running well , Bern praising cuban leader Castro didnt help his campaign at all they all think he is some Marxist freak which is sort of misleading thing i must say .

 

[Homelander]

I really, REALLY hate paraphrasing Lindsey Graham, but if/when the Democrats nominate Biden over Bernie, we will lose and we will deserve it.

He is safe choice , bernie is too radical for established Dem. Many in Senate want to regain back their seat . They are scared afk even if Bernie wins they will lose their seat , They are doing for their survival lol

 

[sanjikun]

He is safe choice , bernie is too radical for established Dem. Many in Senate want to regain back their seat . They are scared afk even if Bernie wins they will lose their seat , They are doing for their survival lol

The dude is clearly senile. How is that the safe choice?

American politics is fucked. Republicans are racist sociopaths, and Democrats are corrupt losers. The one thing I respect about Republicans is they didn't listen to their establishment. Their establishment kept telling them he wasn't electable, but they didn't give a shit, and they won. The Democratic establishment is doing the same with Bernie, but most Democratic voters are actually listening. This is a party of losers/sheep who can't think for themselves.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

The dude is clearly senile. How is that the safe choice?

American politics is fucked. Republicans are racist sociopaths, and Democrats are corrupt losers.

You and I have disagreed with each other in the past, but we’re on the same page with all that.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Every single CEO could take a 70 percent annual pay cut TODAY, redistribute that wealth among their employees/PAY THEIR GOD DAMN FAIR SHARE OF TAXES, and still set all their families up for generations to come. The only thing that changes for them in that scenario is that common people like us are much better off in life, which is a thought they can’t fucking stand. If we had an iota of the class solidarity amongst ourselves that rich people across the political spectrum have with each other, there would be a much more equal share of wealth for everybody in this country...but please, keep telling me why access to healthcare isn’t a guaranteed human right, but owning a corporation should be.

This is a strawman

Bernie isn’t merely supporting taxing private healthcare companies, he wants to eradicate them.

healthcare for all can be guaranteed without violating the rights of others. Healthcare cannot simultaneously be a right and violate the rights of others.

 

[Homelander]

The dude is clearly senile. How is that the safe choice?

American politics is fucked. Republicans are racist sociopaths, and Democrats are corrupt losers. The one thing I respect about Republicans is they didn't listen to their establishment. Their establishment kept telling them he wasn't electable, but they didn't give a shit, and they won. The Democratic establishment is doing the same with Bernie, but most Democratic voters are actually listening. This is a party of losers/sheep who can't think for themselves.

Dem are looking two ways , Biden was a vp so he'll get obamas vote bank . Some of them in senate do not want to lose their power .

They want trump out even if biden loses heyll still hold on to their power . Bernie picking up a fight was not helpful !!

 

[Jew D. Boy]

This is a strawman

Bernie isn’t merely supporting taxing private healthcare companies, he wants to eradicate them.

healthcare for all can be guaranteed without violating the rights of others. Healthcare cannot simultaneously be a right and violate the rights of others.

How it feels to talk to someone who thinks it’s GOOD that people in this country have to sell plasma and start GoFundMe campaigns just to afford the medicine they need to fucking survive:

 

[Homelander]

How it feels to talk to someone who thinks it’s GOOD that people in this country have to sell plasma and start GoFundMe campaigns just to afford the medicine they need to fucking survive:

I still get GoFundme request feel bad some of them dont have money to pay insurance bill for their fractured hand .

Living in capitalist society can be curse at times but bernie's revolution sure has rallied lot of progressive it may create seed for future leader that might unite everyone . I would say he won in some way even if he did not become president his motto and ideals were too bring people to rally around deep down he new establishment will never make him nominee .

At times i do feel Progressives should break away from Dem party and form their collision . America sure needs 3rd party because its clear that career politicians are sold out to big corporate .