Controversial Venting Thread - Mafia Edition

Yoho

I'm Quite Dandy
I can't really judge you from your performance in the last game here as you've been an indie with a hard-to-achieve wincon but if you want to have any chance in champs to advance or at least leave a good impression you should be aware that champs is not mech-heavy and it is required to be actively participating and solving. I say it out loud, Worstgen is a weak mafia community, most of the other reps are used to play in communities with higher standards. It's like in One Piece, Luffy can only become stronger by facing strong opponents, that's a big disadvantage because you can barely evolve as a mafia player in Worstgen as strong players have become rare in this forum.
Idk whats considered a strong player tbh everyone has their strengths and weaknesses but I volunteered for Champs mostly for the experience and a chance to meet others from different communities that I might one day want to try mafia on, I have no delusions that i'll win it all, if I do lucky me if I don't I'm just glad I got the experience weather i last 1 game or 100 games
 
The worst thing is, and it's not only a WG thing, is that people don't punish inherently scummy behaviour.

Let's say player A always plays scummy on D1 and D2 because of how they post and approach the game, even as town.

It is my good right to call this out and lynch player A because of it, even when they are town and have people vouch for them because of "meta".

Scummy behaviour/playstyle is being rewarded here instead of being policed, which is quite bad.

And sometimes you have to weed out town with mislynches before you progress to find mafia.
It would be so better if this weeding out process would happen less frequently because people in general play townier rather than wolfier as town.

I know there are people who won't like it because they would end on the chopblock every single game. No need to namecall anyone, but yeah it is what it is. Lol.
 

Fujishiro

Cheese for everyone!
Hate me all you want but this playerbase here is so messed up, when (more than) half of the town players aren't even trying to win and are making themselves unreadable every single game then you know right at the moment you receive your role PM and it says that you rolled town you're screwed right from the start. To me that's not acceptable, as the few players who put in actual effort as town and want to win games, apparently aren't allowed to have any fun in Worstgen mafia games. And no, auto-losing games because nobody (from what was supposed to be your team) cares about their wincon is no fun at all. At the current state Worstgen mafia has hit rock bottom.
A few bad apples won’t rot the basket, also nobody hates you.
 
Good question actually.

Better one would be why I even tried to write about this topic in the first place. No matter what I say, nothing is gonna change here, people like Fuji will only be sugarcoating all of this and encourage bad play. If I'd be signing up for his Pokemon game which would be coming next (I will not) it's so obvious I'd just experience the same shit all over again. Takes one look at the player list and you can immediately see that this is gonna be another game where almost nobody cares and the few exceptions are gonna get screwed over again.
 
Have I played a different game than the rest?

Wanted to avoid calling out names but:
Orca, Polar, Juice, Naomi, Watson, AM, Jaguar, Reloaded, Alexis were all town and none of them did town any favour.
alex got murder because most of the mafia players hated him night 1 ,🤡 like even because i stood up for alex, i got redirected vote the next day because wifom/hate. by the same person who hates alex. 🤡

i even pointed out reloaded was being missused as lynch, by scum..

I had scum lynch my wagon after i tested self vote near end phase, anyone jumping on that shit vote as excuse to vote me, thinking i as town would do that nonsense.


i had ratchet as scum in game thread after he vote and even pointed it out, meanwhile you shoot town, then complain!! 🤡

like i was solving at my own pace, i even agreed with orca on juice, who i voted. and gave my scum reads. not my problem if town does not vote the other party, while town reading me and let me get lynched.
 
Having some nerves to blame me for shooting town (which I didn't, Flower forced me into duelling AM / Watson slot after both of them played horribly bad) while the only thing you did was self-voting which should be a no-go.

Alexis had me, Charlie and Shui as main suspects btw, 0/3 mafia, ChatGPT failed him completely.
 
Having some nerves to blame me for shooting town (which I didn't, Flower forced me into duelling AM / Watson slot after both of them played horribly bad) while the only thing you did was self-voting which should be a no-go.

Alexis had me, Charlie and Shui as main suspects btw, 0/3 mafia, ChatGPT failed him completely.
why would you listen to flower, who got two town misslynched....

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why would you listen to flower, who got two town misslynched....

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Because she was one of the few town players which like me at least tried to win this game. Then AM really botched his claim too on Discord after Watson previously didn't tell us about having vote-silenced Reloaded. Ask the people that were there as well as Fuji, I've not been enthusiastic about this as I'd like to have used the duel on someone else.

Besides that almost all strong players turned out to be mafia, with only few exceptions like Charlie who I could work with.

Meanwhile both of you and Reloaded were self-voting or openly claiming mafia. And I don't even want to talk about the arctic duo...
 
depends on for what those townies got lynched tbh, if they played scummy its not really a mislynch per se
Almost every townie who got mislynched or vigged played scummy as hell, that's the massive problem here.
Dale got easily away with using his extra kill as mafia on Orca because nobody at all could have blamed him for it because of the way Orca played.
 
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