Future Events Vista is the swordsman of the Red Hair Pirates and endgame material for the WGS title.
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Shanks is the Roger of this generation (even having the same attack as him) and Roger and and WB use their adCoC to create non-contact blunt hits, even with swords this is completely different to how Mihawk does it.
Doesn’t matter whether Roger and WB use clubs or swords as the hits
Shanks is the Roger of this generation (even having the same attack as him) and Roger and and WB use their adCoC to create non-contact blunt hits, even with swords this is completely different to how Mihawk does it.
Doesn’t matter whether Roger and WB use clubs or swords as the hits
Mihawk has as well
Hmmm.. Lets see if you will reply to me.. Mr."New Account".
If you will read my post here. Read it while having in mind that i am neutral here i don't take sides.
1st of all this was my comment on your "postpone thread".
Alright lets get to your points here. Yes the Vivre card and the Data Book information is true and anyone denying them is a coper. But i don't think these info goes according to your agenda here. Both the Vivre Card and Databook refers to Mihawk as the "Strongest" Not "Greatest"
Ok the Databook clearly stated that Vista showed Equal or Superior Swordmanship than Mihawk "in this fight" meaning in Marineford Vista did better than Mihawk. And that is 100% true.
Alright cool but what does that mean for Mihawk? Clearly he did fk all and there was no feats against anyone of worthy. Heck he was excited to test Luffy's fate more than actually trying to go at WB again after his "measuring". And again he went after Luffy again when he displayed CoC.. All of this looks bad for him.
But was he the only one being stalled a by Commander? Why not bring up the Admirals who clearly did fk all except for Akainu. And were halted by 1 Commander each. But now we see Aokiji soloing BB's commanders and was willing to go vs all of them. Or RunBull who soloed King And Queen and the Scabbards if it wasn't for Shanks. And that same King wasn't affected by Marco at all.
Vista isn't someone who should be regarded as weak.. If Queen stalled Big Mom i think Vista can too. So him being able to stall Mihawk shouldn't be surprising. Because like Queen who wasn't afraid of Big Mom until she showed him whos boss. But sadly Mihawk showed us nothing..
But back to Mihawk.. his resume looks bad and until he shows actual feats i am reserving my judgement on him.
So why do you need to tell Mihawk fans something right now when the new chapter just came out? Why not before Mr. New Account?
There is no point in trying to convince anyone fans anything when they are all biased and would go out of their way to create new accounts to hate or defend
.
If you will read my post here. Read it while having in mind that i am neutral here i don't take sides.
1st of all this was my comment on your "postpone thread".
Interesting topic here.. oh wait its been talked about by so many members and you are a "new" account.
I have a question for you. Why would you take anything any character says at face value?
They are characters written with their own thoughts. What Vista says here could be him trying to save face that he couldn't land a hit on Mihawk and since Mihawk offered to postpone the fight He "vista" wanted to chat shit.
Don't get me wrong here this will always stain Mihawk reputation no matter what anyone says. Because he was the one who offered to postpone the fight.
I have a question for you. Why would you take anything any character says at face value?
They are characters written with their own thoughts. What Vista says here could be him trying to save face that he couldn't land a hit on Mihawk and since Mihawk offered to postpone the fight He "vista" wanted to chat shit.
Don't get me wrong here this will always stain Mihawk reputation no matter what anyone says. Because he was the one who offered to postpone the fight.
Ok the Databook clearly stated that Vista showed Equal or Superior Swordmanship than Mihawk "in this fight" meaning in Marineford Vista did better than Mihawk. And that is 100% true.
Alright cool but what does that mean for Mihawk? Clearly he did fk all and there was no feats against anyone of worthy. Heck he was excited to test Luffy's fate more than actually trying to go at WB again after his "measuring". And again he went after Luffy again when he displayed CoC.. All of this looks bad for him.
But was he the only one being stalled a by Commander? Why not bring up the Admirals who clearly did fk all except for Akainu. And were halted by 1 Commander each. But now we see Aokiji soloing BB's commanders and was willing to go vs all of them. Or RunBull who soloed King And Queen and the Scabbards if it wasn't for Shanks. And that same King wasn't affected by Marco at all.
Vista isn't someone who should be regarded as weak.. If Queen stalled Big Mom i think Vista can too. So him being able to stall Mihawk shouldn't be surprising. Because like Queen who wasn't afraid of Big Mom until she showed him whos boss. But sadly Mihawk showed us nothing..
But back to Mihawk.. his resume looks bad and until he shows actual feats i am reserving my judgement on him.
So why do you need to tell Mihawk fans something right now when the new chapter just came out? Why not before Mr. New Account?
There is no point in trying to convince anyone fans anything when they are all biased and would go out of their way to create new accounts to hate or defend
.
Hmmm.. Lets see if you will reply to me.. Mr."New Account".
If you will read my post here. Read it while having in mind that i am neutral here i don't take sides.
1st of all this was my comment on your "postpone thread".
Alright lets get to your points here. Yes the Vivre card and the Data Book information is true and anyone denying them is a coper. But i don't think these info goes according to your agenda here. Both the Vivre Card and Databook refers to Mihawk as the "Strongest" Not "Greatest"
Ok the Databook clearly stated that Vista showed Equal or Superior Swordmanship than Mihawk "in this fight" meaning in Marineford Vista did better than Mihawk. And that is 100% true.
Alright cool but what does that mean for Mihawk? Clearly he did fk all and there was no feats against anyone of worthy. Heck he was excited to test Luffy's fate more than actually trying to go at WB again after his "measuring". And again he went after Luffy again when he displayed CoC.. All of this looks bad for him.
But was he the only one being stalled a by Commander? Why not bring up the Admirals who clearly did fk all except for Akainu. And were halted by 1 Commander each. But now we see Aokiji soloing BB's commanders and was willing to go vs all of them. Or RunBull who soloed King And Queen and the Scabbards if it wasn't for Shanks. And that same King wasn't affected by Marco at all.
Vista isn't someone who should be regarded as weak.. If Queen stalled Big Mom i think Vista can too. So him being able to stall Mihawk shouldn't be surprising. Because like Queen who wasn't afraid of Big Mom until she showed him whos boss. But sadly Mihawk showed us nothing..
But back to Mihawk.. his resume looks bad and until he shows actual feats i am reserving my judgement on him.
So why do you need to tell Mihawk fans something right now when the new chapter just came out? Why not before Mr. New Account?
There is no point in trying to convince anyone fans anything when they are all biased and would go out of their way to create new accounts to hate or defend.
If you will read my post here. Read it while having in mind that i am neutral here i don't take sides.
1st of all this was my comment on your "postpone thread".
Alright lets get to your points here. Yes the Vivre card and the Data Book information is true and anyone denying them is a coper. But i don't think these info goes according to your agenda here. Both the Vivre Card and Databook refers to Mihawk as the "Strongest" Not "Greatest"
Ok the Databook clearly stated that Vista showed Equal or Superior Swordmanship than Mihawk "in this fight" meaning in Marineford Vista did better than Mihawk. And that is 100% true.
Alright cool but what does that mean for Mihawk? Clearly he did fk all and there was no feats against anyone of worthy. Heck he was excited to test Luffy's fate more than actually trying to go at WB again after his "measuring". And again he went after Luffy again when he displayed CoC.. All of this looks bad for him.
But was he the only one being stalled a by Commander? Why not bring up the Admirals who clearly did fk all except for Akainu. And were halted by 1 Commander each. But now we see Aokiji soloing BB's commanders and was willing to go vs all of them. Or RunBull who soloed King And Queen and the Scabbards if it wasn't for Shanks. And that same King wasn't affected by Marco at all.
Vista isn't someone who should be regarded as weak.. If Queen stalled Big Mom i think Vista can too. So him being able to stall Mihawk shouldn't be surprising. Because like Queen who wasn't afraid of Big Mom until she showed him whos boss. But sadly Mihawk showed us nothing..
But back to Mihawk.. his resume looks bad and until he shows actual feats i am reserving my judgement on him.
So why do you need to tell Mihawk fans something right now when the new chapter just came out? Why not before Mr. New Account?
There is no point in trying to convince anyone fans anything when they are all biased and would go out of their way to create new accounts to hate or defend
.
Jozu is still a top commander and nothing says he is even comparable in combat ability to BB commanders that got frozen by Aokiji , as Marco and Jozu needed distractions to get beaten instantly like that, Aokiji seems to have froze several of BBs crewmates, which means the differential in combat ability is substantial.
You’re Selling the WB commanders short even though they matched the admirals in QcQ
Furthermore Vista has superior skills because he also has history with Wano and Oden, which Mihawk doesn’t have. The flower sword style is a derivative of Hyoguro’s and Ashura Doji’s sword style and applications, so naturally he was also taught Wano’s ryou specific for swordsmen.
So you have good reasons to put Vista=>Mihawk
All you got are cop-outs
Think about why Mihawk, if he is so much more relevant in the grander scheme, hasn’t got anything to do with Wano?
That was the perfect opportunity to build on Mihawk’s hype, only Oda didn’t go for it, because Mihaek doesn’t have the clout you think he does
The road to WGS will be between one swordsman from each yonko crew
(1) Zoro from the Strawhats pirates
(2) Shiryu from the Blackbeard pirates
(3) Mihawk from Crosa Guild
(4) Vista from the Red Hair Pirates
Oda likely already envisioned this from the start, as why else insert needless filler info about Vista having history with Yasopp? As seen with this panel of Yasopp and Vista glowering each other down, they can’t even contain their rage in a sensitive time like Marineford. Pretty pointless info at the end of the day, yet Oda even adressed it in an SBS
Or perhaps Oda doesn’t just create filler information like that for no reason.
Vista’s importance is striking and shouldn’t be understated.
When the Vivre Card info says Mihawk is looking for a swordsman with greater skills than Shanks, the VC and Databook go full cirlcle on that as in fact Vista was the guy Mihawk was in fact looking for in terms of fulfilling the criterion for a worthy swordsman. It’s just Oda doesn’t spell it out for you lol but it was literally there all along
you can’t just pick Mihawk’s VC and discard Vista’s Databook information so if you got that one wrong it’s on you lol :holdthisl:
Simply following the evidence and clues leads to the conclusion that Vista is an endgame challenger for the WGS title, and his teaming up with Red Hair goes full circle with the Yasopp connection.
The title of WGS will be a fleeting one as it will be closely tied between the four of them in tandem with the Yonko’s race to Laugh Tale
(1) Zoro from the Strawhats pirates
(2) Shiryu from the Blackbeard pirates
(3) Mihawk from Crosa Guild
(4) Vista from the Red Hair Pirates
Oda likely already envisioned this from the start, as why else insert needless filler info about Vista having history with Yasopp? As seen with this panel of Yasopp and Vista glowering each other down, they can’t even contain their rage in a sensitive time like Marineford. Pretty pointless info at the end of the day, yet Oda even adressed it in an SBS
Or perhaps Oda doesn’t just create filler information like that for no reason.
Vista’s importance is striking and shouldn’t be understated.
When the Vivre Card info says Mihawk is looking for a swordsman with greater skills than Shanks, the VC and Databook go full cirlcle on that as in fact Vista was the guy Mihawk was in fact looking for in terms of fulfilling the criterion for a worthy swordsman. It’s just Oda doesn’t spell it out for you lol but it was literally there all along
you can’t just pick Mihawk’s VC and discard Vista’s Databook information so if you got that one wrong it’s on you lol :holdthisl:
Simply following the evidence and clues leads to the conclusion that Vista is an endgame challenger for the WGS title, and his teaming up with Red Hair goes full circle with the Yasopp connection.
The title of WGS will be a fleeting one as it will be closely tied between the four of them in tandem with the Yonko’s race to Laugh Tale
