Powers & Abilities Vivre card Enma confirmation

Everything you said are still didn't confirm that Oden's haki is not preserved in Enma.
When Enma suck out Oden's haki almost his entire life. If Oden didn't release all of his haki in enma when he was still alive.
Oden's haki has nowhrere to go. It's preserved in enma.
how much mental gymnastic can one do

obviously manga didnt explicitly say that Enma doesnt have Oden's haki within it, but literally nothing indicates that Enma has Oden's haki within it, the comment Kaido made during the rooftop was just a reference to Oden's soul as swords bear the previous soul of the users, and it doesnt have anything to do with haki. Many already said about this but this is often ignored. To prevent further mental gymnastic, Shusui bears Ryuma's soul, but zoro failed in cutting kizaru pre TS, which means soul =/= haki in this context

Next, let us make an equivalent faulty claim such as

"Everything you said are still didnt confirm that Roger's haki is not preserved in Luffy's strawhat"
"Everything you said are still didnt confirm that Shank's haki is not preserved in luffy's strawhat"
"Everything you said are still didnt confirm that Ace's haki is not preserved in Mera-Mera no Mi"
etc

and you'd realize how dumb such statements sound
 
Enma suck out user's haki. And Oden is used enma almost his entire life.
it does suck out the user's haki, but at the end it will be given back to the user
Further proven that when Enma isnt used, it's not black, which indicates there is no haki within it

Especially Kaidou didn't notice Oden's presence when Zoro attacks him in the first place.
But when he unleash more enma power then Kaidou start to noticing Oden's presence.
he noticed Oden's presence simply because zoro was using Ryou and Enma was one of the sword Oden used against Kaido
 
Zoro is using the same sword against King why hasn't he said mentioned anything about it so far. Where is the strange aura after coming down from the roof :hope:
One more reason to think it was Oden's haki on the roof. Let's see what happens against King, perhaps Zoro used all of the remaining Oden's haki for his last attack on the roof or he decided to wait a bit before using his not-so-secret-anymore OdenCoC&CoA™ supply:specialmeh:
 
See how many hoops you need to jump through to discredit Zoro:milaugh:
It is very simple.

Enma has a supply of Oden's haki stored inside. Anytime someone tries to put his own haki on the sword, Enma tries to use that supply and suck in the wielder's haki.
With time you can control the sword and use it as a normal one or as a OdenCoC&CoA™ dispenser.


Is the supply already gone? Can Zoro store his own haki inside Enma? We don't know yet, but we know that Zoro on the roof used a weird haki, that at times after Zoro decided to unleash Enma a bit more the sword had a strange aura around, and that Kaido felt Oden's presence in it on those moments:kayneshrug:
 
It is very simple.

Enma has a supply of Oden's haki stored inside. Anytime someone tries to put his own haki on the sword, Enma tries to use that supply and suck in the wielder's haki.
With time you can control the sword and use it as a normal one or as a OdenCoC&CoA™ dispenser.


Is the supply already gone? Can Zoro store his own haki inside Enma? We don't know yet, but we know that Zoro on the roof used a weird haki, that at times after Zoro decided to unleash Enma a bit more the sword had a strange aura around, and that Kaido felt Oden's presence in it on those moments:kayneshrug:
Or we could go for the explanations given in the manga and not invent stuff, you could always write your own story about special swords you seem very fascinated by that:catsure:
 
Sometimes i wonder if being a Sanjistan makes you lose the ability to read a goddamn story due to the heavy ammounts of copium they take daily, or if its just that dumb people that lack the ability to read the story just gravitate towards liking that character.
:suresure::suresure::suresure::suresure::suresure::suresure:
"Oden's aura" Just mean an aura similar to Oden's, these dumb motherfuckers also forget that Kaido was reminded of Oden when the scabards atacked him yet none have any of the Oden's swords.
 
Enma didn't give user's haki back by itself. Even Zoro need to pull his haki back.
And We didn't know how much of haki that the user can pull it back. May be 70 %, 80% or 90%. And the rest is still preserved in it.
There are many scenes can prove that when the users use theire haki it didn't need to show a blackening as always.
It's more about the consistency, before zoro used Enma for the first time, it wasnt black, and when zoro tried Enma to cut a cliff, it turned black. If Enma was already coated in haki before zoro used it, no reason for oda to draw it black when zoro used it

Why is Kaidou didn't notice Oden's presence when Zoro attacks him in the first place ?
Because Zoro didn't unleash enough Oden's haki for Kaidou can noticing it.
Because at first, zoro didnt release Ryou, so the attack was too weak to remind Kaido of Oden
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
Presence can very well refer to memories stored in the sword which is a living object in the OP verse. Doesn't necessarily have to be a physical Oden presence of Oden himself or even an haki thingn
 
Either the English language is harder to understand then i previously thought or you are the result of siblings copulating. There is no other explanation of why people can't understand the manga, anime and vivre cards saying the same exact thing :seriously:.

somone @ the mods to lock this thread already
Well see this :luffylaugh:
This time Zoro wankers take Ls without even searching what the source actually say.

VCs: Enma drains Haki of the user.

Some Zoro fanboy on twitter: It's Zoro's Haki not Oden's :vistalaugh:

VCs says nothing about whose Haki is in it or not, what a sad fanbase... They just can't deal with Luffy > Zoro, and crying all the time all over the internet with this kind of nonsense. In Oda's series Luffy > Zoro guys, you can cry all you want but he is not going to change his own series because you cry for underling Zoro. :goyea:
Dude is literally saying VC is saying Enma drains haki of its user but at the same time, he says it's not Zoro's haki!!
:kaidowhat::kaidowhat: Erkan for you!
 
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