News Volume 108 - Discussion Thread (March 4th, 2024)

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Worst Gen clowning Mihawk even though Oda had finally given his backstory something interesting
And this is only a part of it as well, his childhood, who trained him, how he became the WSS and the opponents he faced, his duel with Shanks, the great betrayal and now Cross Guild, I'm stocked about his full backstory and what the future holds for him.
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Marine refuses to touch kaido land

meanwhile they sent a vice admiral to kick mihawk off his home

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Wano is a fortress, The WG didn't bother going there since Ryuma whipped their ass
 
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As funny as the whole "hiding behind Buggy's shadow" thing is (which we knew) it looks like Oda might actually make Mihawk a character

Right now his fanbase is made up of like 99% Zoro fans

With a bit of character development + Cross Guild taking action he'll finally stand alone as his own character independent of Zoro

That was always my main critique of Mihawk so hopefully this goes well
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
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As funny as the whole "hiding behind Buggy's shadow" thing is (which we knew) it looks like Oda might actually make Mihawk a character

Right now his fanbase is made up of like 99% Zoro fans

With a bit of character development + Cross Guild taking action he'll finally stand alone as his own character independent of Zoro

That was always my main critique of Mihawk so hopefully this goes well
This is pre shanks backstory as well

So before his duels with shanks that WE NEED TO SEE


There how he grew up
Why he was famous when Roger died
Why was he marine hunter
Who betrayed him


He hasn't closed everyone off

He gets along with shanks

Extreme duels tell him he can trust shanks

With all this to come ain't no one gonna be able to call mihawk bland


Zoro doesn't even have this intrigue
 

Kizaruber Eats

what even is this series anymore?
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This is pre shanks backstory as well

So before his duels with shanks that WE NEED TO SEE


There how he grew up
Why he was famous when Roger died
Why was he marine hunter
Who betrayed him


He hasn't closed everyone off

He gets along with shanks

Extreme duels tell him he can trust shanks

With all this to come ain't no one gonna be able to call mihawk bland


Zoro doesn't even have this intrigue
He's honestly the most fascinating character in the entire series, the best mysteries and personality that compliments it. Few characters come close to it.

Mihawks subtleties are part of what make him great too.
 
This is pre shanks backstory as well

So before his duels with shanks that WE NEED TO SEE


There how he grew up
Why he was famous when Roger died
Why was he marine hunter
Who betrayed him


He hasn't closed everyone off

He gets along with shanks

Extreme duels tell him he can trust shanks

With all this to come ain't no one gonna be able to call mihawk bland


Zoro doesn't even have this intrigue
That's if you trust Oda to touch on all of that lol

Zoro never visited Ryuma's grave and his family history was given in an SBS

If Oda went through Mihawk's entire story from start to finish I would be genuinely surprised

If he did I could see Mihawk becoming a lot more popular though. Right now he's only seen as a stepping stone for Zoro but he could become his own standalone character with a full backstory and an actual role

Dunno what that role would be but it would be a lot better if he was a bit more active in the story
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
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That's if you trust Oda to touch on all of that lol

Zoro never visited Ryuma's grave and his family history was given in an SBS

If Oda went through Mihawk's entire story from start to finish I would be genuinely surprised

If he did I could see Mihawk becoming a lot more popular though. Right now he's only seen as a stepping stone for Zoro but he could become his own standalone character with a full backstory and an actual role

Dunno what that role would be but it would be a lot better if he was a bit more active in the story
Ain't that the point.
He didn't reveal anything in sbs when he had the chance to now
Whilst he did the opposite for kidd
 

Kizaruber Eats

what even is this series anymore?
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The only person in the story free of nika
Lmao yeah that too definitely. I'd legit drop OP if Mihawk was ever obsessed with Nika too. He's one of the only things that keeps me reading the series still.

I hope Marineford is the limit between him and Luffy in relevancy to each other.

Still not forgiven Oda for giving luffy the nidai but not zoro too lol.

Characters who have already climbed the summit, achieved their goals can be really interesting if written right and I still have some faith in Oda with Mihawk.

When he finally gets his character arc it will be worth the wait finally. It's just having the patience for it.
 
Ain't that the point.
He didn't reveal anything in sbs when he had the chance to now
Whilst he did the opposite for kidd
I wanna see it happen but I'm not holding my breath

On the bright side this at least confirms that Oda's actually thinking about it/remembers it

Cause his lack of trust in others due to betrayal was already heavily implied in the Cross Guild chapters

So it's on Oda's mind at the very least
 

HA001

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I wanna see it happen but I'm not holding my breath

On the bright side this at least confirms that Oda's actually thinking about it/remembers it

Cause his lack of trust in others due to betrayal was already heavily implied in the Cross Guild chapters

So it's on Oda's mind at the very least
I think the way the race for pk is shaping up zoro vs mihawk will happen when luffy doesn't have a major fight so mihawk can get full focus in that fight
 
I think the way the race for pk is shaping up zoro vs mihawk will happen when luffy doesn't have a major fight so mihawk can get full focus in that fight
True but I wonder when that would be

I angered some Zoro fans when I said this but Zoro vs Mihawk is one of the trickiest fights to figure out in the manga

It's pretty much impossible to predict when or where it'll take place

It should be his final fight but that wouldn't really make sense narratively

There's a 99% chance the final fight will be a bunch of factions vs the World Government (which was hinted at by Whitebeard)

Nasjuro also just so happens to possess Shodai which is multiple steps above Sandai

Even the biggest Zoro haters know that matchup pretty much has to happen

So when do they fight?

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HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
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True but I wonder when that would be

I angered some Zoro fans when I said this but Zoro vs Mihawk is one of the trickiest fights to figure out in the manga

It's pretty much impossible to predict when or where it'll take place

It should be his final fight but that wouldn't really make sense narratively

There's a 99% chance the final fight will be a bunch of factions vs the World Government (which was hinted at by Whitebeard)

Nasjuro also just so happens to possess Shodai which is multiple steps above Sandai

Even the biggest Zoro haters know that matchup pretty much has to happen

So when do they fight?

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I never thought it was in the final war
I am on record saying final war is skypia 2
Where I expected zoro to have 2 fights as he did in skypia
So strongest priest and either adult shawk or an admiral
So zoro doesn't have to face an individual on mihawks level but 2 strong people in the same arc its last war arc so it will be fine

If luffy fights shanks zoro fights Benn
When luffy fights bb zoro fights shiryu

Shiryu is zoros coo training to reach the shanks mihawk coo levels


Also in mihawk favour that's not in shanks or bbs is buggy buggy is falling up through the ranks from warlord to yonko to pk like he said

Buggy be seen as pk imo.

You could make the sh dreams start being realised near the same time.

Zoro vs mihawk could be on raftel
 
As funny as the whole "hiding behind Buggy's shadow" thing is (which we knew) it looks like Oda might actually make Mihawk a character

Right now his fanbase is made up of like 99% Zoro fans

With a bit of character development + Cross Guild taking action he'll finally stand alone as his own character independent of Zoro

That was always my main critique of Mihawk so hopefully this goes well
Oda imo will spend not even half chapter on Mihawk's past, maybe two page like he did with senor pink in DR at most

he isn't the type of character that oda want to go into detail

he's strong and this is enough for him
 
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