Volume 109 - Discussion Thread (July 4th, 2024)
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All of the brothers are monsters. I'm willing to bet once we see Sabo fighting an actually strong opponent again (not including his little scuffle with the Gorosei since he was literally up against 5 top tiers with crazy regen hax and even crazier Haki) he'll look really good. Dude's probably around King's level rn
- Pre new world ace beat shichibukai hanafuda , we don't how. It's still a question. Luffy beat 2 of the warlord during pre time skip. Neither of them should make sense.
- Pre WB fought to draw vs jimbei? Ofc he did , after entering new world he got stronger and stronger and went to meet Shanks and was strong enough at that point for shanks to take a notice of this guy.
- Pre WB ace fought CoC yamato to a draw? How do we know she had access to adcoc back then?
- WB ace was already commnander level , YC2 , it shouldn't be a big deal at that time.
- I can never considered BB fights to be very well. He would take damage from anyone uses brain like bigmam during fights. None the less , BB dominated the fight , it was nothing more than Post 1010 luffy vs kaidou and pre 1011 luffy. Barely standing against a Yami Teach is not a feat. BB demolished Ace. Magallen negged the whole crew alone.
That's the problem , Ace barely tapped into haki , the problem with logia users are they are way too arrogant.
Haki blooms in battle but we don't if DF does the same. DF grows at a linear line not exponentially like haki.
DF can be trained to strong and haki blooms are unparalleled compared to Haki training.
Ace was for sure strong , but
Pre time skip Ace was barely veteran level.
Pre WB ace was YC2~YC3.
WB ace was around YC1.
And that's it.
He had zero feats to go past any of YC1.
Weaker than Katakuri.
He had potential for sure , it was still be fleshed out.
- Pre WB fought to draw vs jimbei? Ofc he did , after entering new world he got stronger and stronger and went to meet Shanks and was strong enough at that point for shanks to take a notice of this guy.
- Pre WB ace fought CoC yamato to a draw? How do we know she had access to adcoc back then?
- WB ace was already commnander level , YC2 , it shouldn't be a big deal at that time.
- I can never considered BB fights to be very well. He would take damage from anyone uses brain like bigmam during fights. None the less , BB dominated the fight , it was nothing more than Post 1010 luffy vs kaidou and pre 1011 luffy. Barely standing against a Yami Teach is not a feat. BB demolished Ace. Magallen negged the whole crew alone.
That's the problem , Ace barely tapped into haki , the problem with logia users are they are way too arrogant.
Haki blooms in battle but we don't if DF does the same. DF grows at a linear line not exponentially like haki.
DF can be trained to strong and haki blooms are unparalleled compared to Haki training.
Ace was for sure strong , but
Pre time skip Ace was barely veteran level.
Pre WB ace was YC2~YC3.
WB ace was around YC1.
And that's it.
He had zero feats to go past any of YC1.
Weaker than Katakuri.
He had potential for sure , it was still be fleshed out.
@Lee Ba Shou You tagged me in this One Piece thread about a tweet about Fujitora's fancy shmancy new blade but I'm ashamed to admit that I never caught up with One Piece 😔
A fire logia is a very powerful ability to have. Even without a trace of haki someone with a fire logia probably beats 95% of the NW pirates.
Fire defense is very rare - not everybody has a rubber body, cutting fire is a very rare ability and CoA can only protect from fire for so long.
We shouldn't forget that.
Fire defense is very rare - not everybody has a rubber body, cutting fire is a very rare ability and CoA can only protect from fire for so long.
We shouldn't forget that.
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@Pew Please warn us beforehands if we should cry or not for the next SBS question 
Very good SBS info. Hanafuda, with the naming scheme and ancient zoan collecting might be the former business partner of Kaido. The main source of most of the BP's fruits. When he was defeated Doflamingo and the Smiles became the replacement.
On the other hand, the Beast Pirates had a severe lack of heavy hitters compared to the other Yonko crews. There's a chance Hanafuda was a former member himself. It would make sense that Kaido used to have other fighters that have since left or died, due to the survival of the fittest nature of the crew.
On the other hand, the Beast Pirates had a severe lack of heavy hitters compared to the other Yonko crews. There's a chance Hanafuda was a former member himself. It would make sense that Kaido used to have other fighters that have since left or died, due to the survival of the fittest nature of the crew.
