Volume 111 - Discussion Thread (March 4th, 2025)

[kekaro]

From shamrock sword comes the black flames gorosei have from imu,like how black flames came outta saturn
Pretty sure these powers are imu getting them frm the "abyss"

Yeah Imu personally reached deep into kaku to awaken him with the black flames

 

[L57]

Yeah Imu personally reached deep into kaku to awaken him with the black flames

Im not talking about the sash low iq clown
Check shamrock sword or when imu took saturs s power

 

[kekaro]

Im not talking about the sash low iq clown
Check shamrock sword or when imu took saturs s power

? what about them its just because it some black fire/flame effect
its look like bb fruit too, does that mean Imu has BB fruit according to you?

 

[L57]

? what about them its just because it some black fire/flame effect
its look like bb fruit too, does that mean Imu has BB fruit according to you?

All we know is awakening is a new form
Something gorosei,sham sword dont have
Kakau and lucci are only awakened users in wg

 

[MonochromeYoru]

All we know is awakening is a new form
Something gorosei,sham sword dont have
Kakau and lucci are only awakened users in wg

they all have the hagoromo

they are awakened

 

[DarkWitch]

All we know is awakening is a new form
Something gorosei,sham sword dont have
Kakau and lucci are only awakened users in wg

Stop being a dumb fuck. It was never confirmed that they have to only have a third form to show awakening.

The flaming scarf is indication of awakening, the fact that the Gorosei and Shamrock's sword have the same flaming scarf like Lucci and Kaku is proof that they are awakened.

 

[L57]

Stop being a dumb fuck. It was never confirmed that they have to only have a third form to show awakening.

The flaming scarf is indication of awakening, the fact that the Gorosei and Shamrock's sword have the same flaming scarf like Lucci and Kaku is proof that they are awakened.

They are not
Its not confirmed that they even have fruits

 

[MonsterKaido]

Gorosei or shamrock's sword don't have DFs. They don't have DF names. They are special powers given by imu.

 

[moreha9685]

Stop being a dumb fuck. It was never confirmed that they have to only have a third form to show awakening.

The flaming scarf is indication of awakening, the fact that the Gorosei and Shamrock's sword have the same flaming scarf like Lucci and Kaku is proof that they are awakened.

The flaming scarf is an indication of awakening when user and devil are in sync.
But when there is no user (as with the sword) or there was no fruit to be eaten in the first place (i.e. the devil never came from a DF, but from the abyss itself), in that case the scarf indicates the presence of the devil in its full form, not limited by a person's will.

 

[Shiroyru]

@nik87 Does Kaku have better control over Awakening than Lucci does? Oda only said that Lucci needs to be careful or else he’ll become like the ID Jailer Beasts

 

[centurion]

"guys its just a hallucination Oda would never make that many mistakes"

 

[nik87]

@nik87 Does Kaku have better control over Awakening than Lucci does? Oda only said that Lucci needs to be careful or else he’ll become like the ID Jailer Beasts

Idk what he means by that and why he singled out Lucci of all people.

 

[Roo]

"guys its just a hallucination Oda would never make that many mistakes"

Those first two weeks of elbaph were wild. A lot of people put Oda on a huge pedestal

 

[Kōri no kokyū]

Idk what he means by that and why he singled out Lucci of all people.

Wasn't this already answered pre time skip?
Lucci let his carnivorus instinct take over which results in his fruit being stronger.
Means he is highly likely to be taken in by the demon than Kaku , who uses fruit like a extension.

 

[Afroking]

Being Oda's editor is theEasiest Job on the planet. All you have to do is answer his phone calls regardless of the hours and deliver the chapter(if they still don't use emails) to the HQ. They don't even proofread shit.
It is one thing to not being able to change a drawing at the last moment but.a speech bubble...

 

[nik87]

Wasn't this already answered pre time skip?
Lucci let his carnivorus instinct take over which results in his fruit being stronger.
Means he is highly likely to be taken in by the demon than Kaku , who uses fruit like a extension.

The bold part is mistranslation. From what I remember Chopper says that he becomes more aggressive due to carnivorous Zoan.

 

[Kōri no kokyū]

The bold part is mistranslation. From what I remember Chopper says that he becomes more aggressive due to carnivorous Zoan.

But this Aggressive Nature comed from the devil of devil fruit. Which their personality taking over. We didn't see such things with Kaku

 

[Terra Arseid7]

The bold part is mistranslation. From what I remember Chopper says that he becomes more aggressive due to carnivorous Zoan.

And the most likely thing is that the zoan also increases the physical capabilities of its user even in human mode.

So Kaku's 2200 dourikis would increase, but we don't know how much, if you add his swords to that, it increases even more.


What are my arguments? This

Nika Nika, rubber body in any state.

Hito Hito, Chopper's intelligence and ability to speak

Tori Tori, Marco regenerative ability in normal mode

Hebi Hebi, Orochi survived the decapitation even while in human form.

 

[nik87]

And the most likely thing is that the zoan also increases the physical capabilities of its user even in human mode.

So Kaku's 2200 dourikis would increase, but we don't know how much, if you add his swords to that, it increases even more.


What are my arguments? This

Nika Nika, rubber body in any state.

Hito Hito, Chopper's intelligence and ability to speak

Tori Tori, Marco regenerative ability in normal mode

Hebi Hebi, Orochi survived the decapitation even while in human form.

Im sceptical about stat boost in base form.
Kaku's hybrid forms far exceeded hybrid Lucci's doriki in raw power in Rankyaku and Shigan, which are Kaku's specialty.
Lucci was never the best in all of the Rokushiki abilities.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

"guys its just a hallucination Oda would never make that many mistakes"

Lolda.