Volume 111 - Discussion Thread (March 4th, 2025)

All we know is awakening is a new form
Something gorosei,sham sword dont have
Kakau and lucci are only awakened users in wg
Stop being a dumb fuck. It was never confirmed that they have to only have a third form to show awakening.

The flaming scarf is indication of awakening, the fact that the Gorosei and Shamrock's sword have the same flaming scarf like Lucci and Kaku is proof that they are awakened.
 
Stop being a dumb fuck. It was never confirmed that they have to only have a third form to show awakening.

The flaming scarf is indication of awakening, the fact that the Gorosei and Shamrock's sword have the same flaming scarf like Lucci and Kaku is proof that they are awakened.
The flaming scarf is an indication of awakening when user and devil are in sync.
But when there is no user (as with the sword) or there was no fruit to be eaten in the first place (i.e. the devil never came from a DF, but from the abyss itself), in that case the scarf indicates the presence of the devil in its full form, not limited by a person's will.
 
Being Oda's editor is theEasiest Job on the planet. All you have to do is answer his phone calls regardless of the hours and deliver the chapter(if they still don't use emails) to the HQ. They don't even proofread shit.
It is one thing to not being able to change a drawing at the last moment but.a speech bubble...
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Wasn't this already answered pre time skip?
Lucci let his carnivorus instinct take over which results in his fruit being stronger.
Means he is highly likely to be taken in by the demon than Kaku , who uses fruit like a extension.
The bold part is mistranslation. From what I remember Chopper says that he becomes more aggressive due to carnivorous Zoan.
 
The bold part is mistranslation. From what I remember Chopper says that he becomes more aggressive due to carnivorous Zoan.
And the most likely thing is that the zoan also increases the physical capabilities of its user even in human mode.

So Kaku's 2200 dourikis would increase, but we don't know how much, if you add his swords to that, it increases even more.


What are my arguments? This

Nika Nika, rubber body in any state.

Hito Hito, Chopper's intelligence and ability to speak

Tori Tori, Marco regenerative ability in normal mode

Hebi Hebi, Orochi survived the decapitation even while in human form.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
And the most likely thing is that the zoan also increases the physical capabilities of its user even in human mode.

So Kaku's 2200 dourikis would increase, but we don't know how much, if you add his swords to that, it increases even more.


What are my arguments? This

Nika Nika, rubber body in any state.

Hito Hito, Chopper's intelligence and ability to speak

Tori Tori, Marco regenerative ability in normal mode

Hebi Hebi, Orochi survived the decapitation even while in human form.
Im sceptical about stat boost in base form.
Kaku's hybrid forms far exceeded hybrid Lucci's doriki in raw power in Rankyaku and Shigan, which are Kaku's specialty.
Lucci was never the best in all of the Rokushiki abilities.
 
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