Speculations Wano arc will be Zoro’s Marineford

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HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
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Not as pathetic and embarrassing as.. thinking Zoro will kill both King and Kaido.

Gotta love Apoo for reminding how delusional you all are.

:gokulaugh:
What did apoo do ?
He attacked zoro who still didnt give a shit about him and straight up said he is going for kaido.
That kills you and now youre being an embarrassment acting like a fool.
 

KiriNigiri

The Road To Harmony
#30
Marineford and Wano Kuni arc similarities


Marineford

- it's a war arc where the big shots gathered in one place. This war had altered the very fate of the world.

Wano Kuni

-it's a war arc where the big shots gathered in one place. At the end of act 2, it stated that this war will shake the fate of the world.


Why Wano arc will be Zoro's Marineford


Luffy took L's in Marineford arc. And so far in Wano arc, Zoro has been taking sort of L's.

Though, L is an L. Better stop the damage control and excuses.

As sad as it was, Luffy lost his brother Ace during the war. So, I also think Zoro will lose someone important to him in Wano.


Who will Zoro lose in Wano?


Enter Zoro's dojo's master in East Blue, Koushirou.

It has been confirmed that he has ties with Wano given that he's part of Shimotsuki family.

I strongly believe he will come to Wano along with Marco and Nekomamushi.

His role will be to fight alongside with the samurai and give Zoro the boost he needs when he fights against King.


Will Zoro win against King?


Zoro will finally go all out, and even with the new power up Enma, it won't be enough. King wins in a very one sided passion.

Kyoshirou will step in and sacrifice himself to save Zoro's life. It'll be heartbreaking to watch.

Zoro will suffer a big defeat in this arc. He'll realize how weak he still is. This will serve as a purpose to get him stronger.
First of all.

Zoro will suffer a big defeat in this arc. He'll realize how weak he still is. This will serve as a purpose to get him stronger.
Redundant development. Zoro met the strongest swordsman early in his journey in order to humble him. He knows what the top looks like. He doesn't need to be reminded how weak he is. That's why he constantly trains.


Stop thinking in terms of "Ls" and "Ws". What part of the Wano arc demands Zoro personally lose? Does he really need to be reminded how "weak" he is? He's not arrogant. From the recent chapter alone, Zoro recognizes his and his allies' limits. As well as the dangers the New World offers.




If you want Zoro to lose so badly, find a stronger justification for it than this tired misconception of his character.

Second, how and why should Koshiro arrive in Wano? Koshiro has expressed no desire to travel. The last time we saw him, he was still busy training at the Isshin Dojo.



This was from a cover story not long after Dressrosa. Not that much time has passed in canon, and Koshiro doesn't appear in a hurry to sail out.



Now on to the meat.

Your entire thesis is based on Zoro struggling during Wano, then proceed to make baseless speculations on why he will fail due to that.

I don't want to delve into everything Zoro's done on Wano, but this is a war the Alliance MUST eventually win. Zoro is one of the frontline fighters. Should he fall, that will represent a huge loss for them.

But let's look at these "Ls" Zoro's received.

Hawkins.

Where did Zoro fail here? Because he was injured? Hawkins is a Supernova. I should expect him not to be a pushover. But from Zoro's little clash, his main priority was saving Tama and being introduced to O-Tsuru, Kin'emon's wife. The injuries Zoro received from Hawkins were negligible compared to those aforementioned developments.

Killer.

I fail to see how this was in anyway a loss for Zoro. He factually defeated his opponent, who was another Supernova, while having to deal with another enemy. He managed to save and meet Toko, Yasuie's daughter, and Hiyori, Oden's daughter. Zoro's injuries vs his Supernova opponent were once again minor in the face of these plot occurrences, which segwayed to the more important development of witnessing Yasuie's execution. Yasuie's death would become a major basis for Zoro's motivation going into the war.


Apoo.

We will wait and see how this unfolds. However, how the chapter concluded, Zoro and Luffy were used to build up Apoo for his forthcoming bout with Kid. Not a means to foreshadow some isolated defeat for Zoro.

Stories have high and low points, but it's the larger picture you need to look at for serious analysis. So Zoro getting bruised and cut isn't good enough to conclude he is setup to fail.

Let's examine the first thing Zoro did on Wano. He struck down the crossroads killer/magistrate, who not only framed him, but who was terrorizing the citizens' of the capital.





Zoro's actions were that of defiance and justice, as demonstrated in the code of bushido. However, he was branded a criminal all throughout Wano. The people of the country believe he to be a dangerous murderer. Yet his actions helped them in the end. This isn't a setup for failure, this was Zoro's very first act of heroism within the country of Wano. Those who laid witness to him and know his character recognize him as a strong and honorable warrior. Roll call:

Kawamatsu
Yasu
Tama
Tsuru
Toko
Hiyori
Kiku
Kin'emon
Hitetsu

They have all been either helped by Zoro directly or have entrusted their hopes to him and his friends to succeed in the now more important mission of liberating Wano. If Wano ends with Zoro being the only one who fails on his end, he'll have betrayed their belief in him. And author's intent suggest he won't, as the people of Wano need their country to be liberated. Since Zoro is a large and visible figure in the operation, he represents those who are acting on Wano's behalf.
 
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