Character Discussion Wano characters that weren't needed?

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#24
1. The Yakuza bosses. Did literally nothing.

2. Kiku. Did nothing. Was only there for trans representation.

3. Kawamatsu. Did nothing. Denjiro could have been the one watching over Hiyori from the get-go, and then Kawamatsu would have absolutely no role in the story.

4. Ashura Doji. Like Kawamatsu, his character and accomplishments could have been merged into Denjiro. Make Denjiro the former Kuri gang leader that Oden had to defeat (which would be fitting since he went on to become a Yakuza boss later on). Make Denjiro the one that was funding the rebels in Kuri and stole the Onigashima blueprints (which would make more sense anyways since Denjiro was close to Orochi). The only useful thing Ashura Doji did in Onigashima was stop the Oden drawing from blowing up the Scabbards, which never needed to happen anyways.

5. Raizo. All he did was have a pointless fight with Fukurokuju, and be the reason why Jack came to Zou. Oda could have just had Kaido find out that 2 of the Scabbards are ruling Zou. which would prompt him to send Jack there to take care of them. Or Kanjuro could have been the Scabbard on Zou that Jack was looking for. This would make his betrayal sting even harder since the Minks risked their lives to protect him. Also, Kanjuro could easily fill the role of being the token ninja amongst the Scabbards. Kanjuro would make much more sense as a ninja than as a samurai anyways since he barely uses a sword, and his drawings could easily be considered ninjutsu.

6. The Numbers. Complete waste of a cool concept.

7. The BMPs. They did nothing but sit on their boat the entire time. Even Perospero's presence didn't really matter on Onigashima, so he wasn't needed either. If it was actually Carrot who defeated Perospero, his presence would be justified since defeating him would be important for her character. But instead, his defeat ended up being a damp squib since he got defeated by Neko, who had no connection to Perospero, after an offscreened fight.

8. Hawkins. Did nothing but have an unnecessary fight with Killer. Just kill him off during the TS

9. All of the named Gifters.
Why momonuske isn't mentioned
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#28
1. The Yakuza bosses. Did literally nothing.

2. Kiku. Did nothing. Was only there for trans representation.

3. Kawamatsu. Did nothing. Denjiro could have been the one watching over Hiyori from the get-go, and then Kawamatsu would have absolutely no role in the story.

4. Ashura Doji. Like Kawamatsu, his character and accomplishments could have been merged into Denjiro. Make Denjiro the former Kuri gang leader that Oden had to defeat (which would be fitting since he went on to become a Yakuza boss later on). Make Denjiro the one that was funding the rebels in Kuri and stole the Onigashima blueprints (which would make more sense anyways since Denjiro was close to Orochi). The only useful thing Ashura Doji did in Onigashima was stop the Oden drawing from blowing up the Scabbards, which never needed to happen anyways.

5. Raizo. All he did was have a pointless fight with Fukurokuju, and be the reason why Jack came to Zou. Oda could have just had Kaido find out that 2 of the Scabbards are ruling Zou. which would prompt him to send Jack there to take care of them. Or Kanjuro could have been the Scabbard on Zou that Jack was looking for. This would make his betrayal sting even harder since the Minks risked their lives to protect him. Also, Kanjuro could easily fill the role of being the token ninja amongst the Scabbards. Kanjuro would make much more sense as a ninja than as a samurai anyways since he barely uses a sword, and his drawings could easily be considered ninjutsu.

6. The Numbers. Complete waste of a cool concept.

7. The BMPs. They did nothing but sit on their boat the entire time. Even Perospero's presence didn't really matter on Onigashima, so he wasn't needed either. If it was actually Carrot who defeated Perospero, his presence would be justified since defeating him would be important for her character. But instead, his defeat ended up being a damp squib since he got defeated by Neko, who had no connection to Perospero, after an offscreened fight.

8. Hawkins. Did nothing but have an unnecessary fight with Killer. Just kill him off during the TS

9. All of the named Gifters.
I also hate that the Scabbards, albeit incomplete during the clash, were easily restrained by Aramaki, even though they fought Kaidou and hurt him.
Before anyone says " well Admirals > Yonkos so that makes sense " don't even try, Shanks was wifi diffing that mf hard.
Lot of people mentioning Hawkins but he really was one of the best antagonists of the arc.
No.
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He's fine, but Izou dying wasn't really necessary. The one time Oda draws a LGBT character (or technically a femboy) that actually looks good he makes them lose their arm and has their brother die right after they reunite.
 
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#30
The main character that was not needed at all was momos sister. She served 0 purpose.

1. She did not teach the civilians the truth about her dad in secret to over throw orochi

2. She didn't secretly train to become strong to Ober throw orochi

3. She did nothing in the war besides path up scabbards that anyone could have done (law chopper etc).

4. She gave zoro enma even though she did not have to be the one to do so since odens dad who we knew as the creator of kitesu sword was still the one that told zoro about enma anyway.

5. Momo was still forced to become an adult to be ruler while her character is even more now useless since she doesn't even fit that role. To add even if momo didn't become an adult and sailed with luffy we now know that regardless their grandfather was alive. Which means if pushed he could have assumed his duty as shigun again.

Her character was ass and was a flop and waste of space
 
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#32
The main character that was not needed at all was momos sister. She served 0 purpose.

1. She did not teach the civilians the truth about her dad in secret to over throw orochi

2. She didn't secretly train to become strong to Ober throw orochi

3. She did nothing in the war besides path up scabbards that anyone could have done (law chopper etc).

4. She gave zoro enma even though she did not have to be the one to do so since odens dad who we knew as the creator of kitesu sword was still the one that told zoro about enma anyway.

Her character was ass and was a flop and waste of space
Add Toki also.
 
#35
X Drake: wouldn't make any difference if he didn't even exist

the sumo guy: I forgot his name

Law's crew that fed Luffy: they didn't even participate in the war I think

Tama: boring deus ex machina piece of crap that exist so Oda could make Big Mom even more of a joke than she already was. Seriously, it would be a better story if Yamato secretly building her own army for mutiny because Kaido and his all stars are mistreating the lower ranked crew members

Hiyori: would be better if either Sukiyaki or Momo or even the Komainu to be the one dealing with Orochi and giving Enma to Zoro)
 
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