Chapter Discussion Wano-Kuni Rewrite: Act1,Act2,&Act3

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Wano rewrite: Luffy and Yamato vs Kaido and CP guy, Kaido gets called back to his home planet

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Post automatically merged: Oct 27, 2024

Most of what I've said in the rewrite Wano thread:

Make Kaido a more active threat and the true brain of his crew instead of Orochi, who's just a pawn to him, and develop his backstory, his personality and his relations and dynamics between him and his subordinates, as well as the dynamics between the Calamities and the Flying Six.

Bring some much needed tensions and stakes with Kaido, and his crew coming as real threats and worthy of being a Yonko crew, and not the underdogs so handicaped by the plot.

Less Scabbards and less screentime for them, as well them not being able of injuring Kaido. Less of Tama and Momo and Yamato, and if she's even included completely rewrite her personality and motives, as well.

And of course less of Oden, Toki being more developed and not just being a plot device and her talking about the Void Century or at least giving hints about what happened during that time. Oden's father stays dead.

Big Mom and her crew don't come to Wano, and certainly not that waterfall shit.

True character development for Zoro, with him finding about his origins and more about the blades, Ryuma's history and he visits Ryuma's grave.

No Nika or Yamato's I am Oden shit. Oden's flashback is modified to removed that utterly stupid and cringeworthy naked dance and Oden stupidly allowing Kaido and Orochi to comfort their tyranny over Wano.

Marco doesn't come, the arc is bloated enough, and it wasn't even worth bringing him if he doesn't even have any interaction with Luffy.

Kaido's final battle is more of a team efforts between the Supernovas. More of Hawkins and Apoo and of their powers, without them just being Kaido's minions.

Less pacing and slowness, a more elaborated conclusion to the arc.

What was the point of Orochi outside the dubious Kurozumi plot and being a fake main villain lol for 1-1.5 acts?

Post automatically merged: Nov 6, 2024

Really not that hard to improve Wano significantly without changing Oda's ideas. It's all about the execution though:

Act 1:

I actually think this was decent and well paced, not much change needed.

Act 2:

Now it begins:
1) Scrap the BM amnesia nonsense entirely. This was atrocious writing.
2) Significantly shorten the Udon-prison-plot.
3) Already include Marco here (let him help Luffy free the prisoners and getting caught/taken away by Queen & Co., therefore taking BM's Wano role and giving Luffy & Co. another reason to whoop Kaido's ass).

Act 3:

This is where Oda lost the plot.

1) If you really HAVE to include BM here, just make her reach Onigashima on a normal way and then negotiate the deal with Kaido. Nothing lost this way and it saves a lot of panel time.
2) Make Jinbei return with at least some kind of scar or lost limb. His happy-go-lucky arrival with zero injuries significantly dragged down another arc ending (WCI), too.
3) Scrap all the inflitration and running up the rooftop stallfest. Just make them arrive, blast the doors open and immediaately start the royal rumble. Scabbards go for Kaido and wound him, but get knocked down after a short skirmish. Luffy, Kid & Co. arrive at the scene. Their fight immediately starts and naturally shifts towards the rooftop, when an enraged BM comes to help Kaido. No essential changes to the initial outcome/idea, but way less useless panel-time.
4) Cut the Yamato character completely - what a horrendous and simply unnecessary addition this was.
5) Cut out the ice-oni-nonsense.
6) Cut out Luffy falling into the sea. Just let him get knocked out and then let Momo in dragon form "stall" him for a few minutes, taking on Yamato's role and giving him a great character moment. Of course he wouldn't really "stall" Kaido, but he would fight for his life, while Kaido toys with him and knocks him silly, but Momo would show his character and buy time nonetheless.
7) Let Kinemon die in their initial fight against Kaido and not return him because of some asspull (quite literally) fart-gag that only 10-year olds find funny.

Those changes alone (many more could be made) wouldn't change the essence of the arc one bit, but they would SIGNIFICANTLY improve the pacing, flow and meaning of it, especially of the latter part of the arc.

Nah Luffy can get knocked into the sea, that panel was badass

Post automatically merged: Nov 6, 2024

Oh come on.

Don't be that guy. You are the first one to shot in the round at the moment. This forum is FILLED with obnixious and self righteous comment about the way One Piece is trash... so don't take it personnal when someone with a little bit more knowledge of the craft starts to use this arrogant technique against those same arguments.

And yes, i'm not asleep yet. Bad night schedule.

I will stop (because yes, it's me we are talking about, no one is dumb) talking to people with arrogance here when I will stop seeing the same behavior of the trashers of One Piece on the forum.

If you can't take the heat, don't bring the heat. In the meantime, start developping your arguments, because all I see right now are people who think they can write a story by removing what makes the story exciting in the first place.


Again.. Wannabe bakers who don't know what purpose flour is used for..


This one for ex:



Not understanding that moments of action need narrative build up in manga and if you make Luffy arrives without that and without a moment of CLEAR impatience and expectation (you know... when the readers is sayin "GO FASTER"), you will get a lower narrative result and an ineffective series of panels.

Again that's what I'm constantly denouncing on this forum. People who want to appear as analyst and better writers than Oda, but do not understand that the reason why they like One Piece in the first place, is the result of the things they are criticizing and trying to remove.




*Facepalm*



Thus removing the character development of Momonosuke, good job.



Why ? Why do you need to see Kid's Haki when you know that Kid is amazingly strong ? What would be the point ? It's not Kid's story.





*double facepalm*



You just removed the feat of Zoro to be able to defeat a seemingly invicible opponent and a representation of demons, good job.

ffs



Thus negating the parrallel between the fight that Usopp and Nami must face Page one and Ulti together because both duo have a sibling relationship.

Pushing Chopper out of his real fight, which was the plague...

Smoothie vs Zoro sounds fire ngl