General & Others Warlords and Admirals are easily the two best groups in One Piece

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#61
But she wasn't talking about children. She said the Beast Pirates have no honor for burning down Okoboro town. That was a chapter before Ulti slapped O'Tama.

(And it's also dumb to think Linlin doesn't know she hurts children when she destroys islands)
Oh yeah well Okobore were nice to her therefore didnt deserve to be destroyed. Its a warped sense of honor.

I agree with the last post but its again does with her childish nature, what she doesnt see doesnt happen.



:kobeha::kobeha::kobeha:

So I guess honor for Linlin means.... Not attacking things she likes.

What a shit character
Thats basically what Ive been saying, its very warped. Doesnt make her a bad character imo.
 
#66
The writing for the Admirals is goated, but not the Warlords as a whole. Hancock is nothing while Kuma and Moriah are just ok.
I hate Moriah’s design and voice but I think he’s actually pretty well written.

He suffered from losing his crew once so his next crew was built on the best surgeon in the world, a man who can turn invisible and hide, a girl who can’t be touched then a series of fodder who can’t die. It’s clear how he built his crew around not having to grieve that loss again.

And the balls that this man had to invade Blackbeards island purely to save one subordinate was great too.
 
#68
Mihawk:marine hunter + huge bounty + tired of life + loda cooking with his past
Dofla:one of the best villain + one of the best past + one of the best DF
Moria sama: best design + best dad +sad past
 
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#69
Mihawk:marine hunter + huge bounty + tired of life + loda cooking with his past
Dofla:one of the best villain + one of the best past + one of the best DF
Moria sama: best design + best daughter +sad past
Blud is so shoddy written he included 2 points that has nothing with characters writing, crying
Another L in coming there
 
#70
The Marines in general are good characters because one of Oda’s themes that he writes a lot about, and is interesting, is justice and what it means to people. The most interesting Marines are all the ones who question or have their justice challenged.

Like Kizaru was not especially interesting before Egghead.

Akainu so far is not the most interesting character, but there are hints to more to him. He was a ferocious villain in Marineford, which is actually good because there’s a place for that in any story, but I woulsn’t say so far that makes him the most enthralling character.

Kuzan, if Oda sticks the landing with him, might be the best written character in the series.

Fujitora is well written, but if he’s criticised it’s that he’s a tad too similar to other Marines, particularly Smoker. Who was the best of the bunch and it’s criminal what Oda has done (or really, hasn’t done) with him.

Ryokugyu is too early, I don’t like the Akainu fanboyism, the hope is that the CD thing is him being a pessimist realist rather than a weirdo worshipper.

Sengoku is okay. Nothing too special tbh.

The Warlords and the Yonko don’t quite have a common theme connecting them the way the Marines have justice, so it sometimes doesn‘t quite make sense to look at them all as a group. Like, connects Jinbei and Moria? Other than being Warlords, nothing.

But of them

Whitebeard: I think a generally strong character, but not the most interesting. Powerful, gruff but good old man who dies isn‘t exactly the most unique story ever told. Rocks may add more to this.

Shanks: I think Shanks is actually a pretty consistently written and good character, as much as people are now bitterly complaining that he’s actually playing a role now.

Blackbeard: connected to Kuzan for a reason, if Oda sticks the landing with him then it could be a tie between the two for best character.

Kaido: what a waste. Such a dreadful, dreadful fumble in the end from Oda. I’m not sure I’ll ever recover from those last few chapters of Wano.

Big Mom: again, a waste. Interesting case is that her character is quite well written and consistent, but ruined by Oda utilising her terribly, culminating in her being written off, from the looks of things, in an arc that had nothing to do with her.

Warlords:

Mihawk: it is time for him to play an actual role, but he’s managed to pull off the cool as fuck, haughty bored aristocrat badass vibe very well so far.

Crocodile: Just a great villain. If Oda wants to give him more background and stuff, fine, but honestly he’s great as is.

Moria: decent enough, but I‘m not sure there’s much of a role for him left? Would it have been better for him to have been killed by Doffy, going out as a warning for what happens when the will is broken?

Hancock: Tbh, not a character I spend much time thinking about. Oda doesn’t write romance especially well, and her gag about loving Luffy, eh, can be funny in small doses. Interesting backstory though, if Oda wants to develop that instead of just being in love with Luffy.

Jinbei: My man.

Doffy: I don’t quite like him as much as Croc but he was a pretty good villain. I do love his podcasts from Impel Down though.

Kuma: I think really well written. The whole idea about him being a target who took in everyone’s pain for years, how that ties with the great Zoro scene, his involvement in some real iconic One Piece scenes in general, big fan of Kuma.

Weevil: I‘m pretty sure Oda’s had to drop a Weevil plotpoint and doesn’t quite know what to do with him. He may end up regretting that he made the last Warlord a new character instead of like… Urouge or something. But who knows, maybe there is more to come.

Law: I think Oda is in a hard place with Law. His relationship with Doflamingo was great. But since that is over, not convinced that Oda has found much of an interesting place for him.

Buggy: as long as Buggy never becomes actually powerful I will always be a fan of his schtick.
 
#71
The Egghead arc proved to me once again that the Warlords and the Admirals are easily two of the best groups in One Piece.

Whether it is Doflamingo, Kuma, or Crocodile for the Warlords, or Kizaru, Kuzan, or Fujitora for the Admirals.

These two groups are easily Oda's best written groups.

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Bruh the warlord portrayal is insane to this day. I forgot this panel in MF. Really emphasizes the fact that they’re the key piece to the “balance”
 

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#72
The WG in general always carried but Elders have been mid so far, specifically Saturn. He's evil because he's evil.
the issue with the elders is that Oda hasn't given them enough highlight as individuals

they're clearly different they aren't all as evil as Saturn, Peter saved Cipher Pol while Saturn killed the marines just for looking at him, and Topman cared about racial harmony and Lulusia Kingdom citizens
 
#74
the issue with the elders is that Oda hasn't given them enough highlight as individuals

they're clearly different they aren't all as evil as Saturn, Peter saved Cipher Pol while Saturn killed the marines just for looking at him, and Topman cared about racial harmony and Lulusia Kingdom citizens
Saturn has one weird scene too.

Before arriving in egghead, he told the marines to let Bonney go. Not even imprisoning, just let her go.

It's really weird, strange and out of character.
 
#75
This is so overblown. Kaido also began crying when he found out about bm's loss but nobody said something like they are the best character in the show. If you think that kizaru's first showing of emotions and that little interaction with akainu made them best characters your standards are pretty low. The only interesting character among the admirals for me is kuzan and that's it.
 
#76
This is so overblown. Kaido also began crying when he found out about bm's loss but nobody said something like they are the best character in the show. If you think that kizaru's first showing of emotions and that little interaction with akainu made them best characters your standards are pretty low. The only interesting character among the admirals for me is kuzan and that's it.
I didn't think Akainu was capable of saying sorry, so that is huge.
 
#77
I hate Moriah’s design and voice but I think he’s actually pretty well written.

He suffered from losing his crew once so his next crew was built on the best surgeon in the world, a man who can turn invisible and hide, a girl who can’t be touched then a series of fodder who can’t die. It’s clear how he built his crew around not having to grieve that loss again.

And the balls that this man had to invade Blackbeards island purely to save one subordinate was great too.
I agree with this. I didnt really like him at first but overtime i grow respect.
 
#80
I hate Moriah’s design and voice but I think he’s actually pretty well written.

He suffered from losing his crew once so his next crew was built on the best surgeon in the world, a man who can turn invisible and hide, a girl who can’t be touched then a series of fodder who can’t die. It’s clear how he built his crew around not having to grieve that loss again.

And the balls that this man had to invade Blackbeards island purely to save one subordinate was great too.
I think he and bb are a nice change to the buff and pretty villains
 
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