I'm curious as to what people think of the matter regarding Whitebeard being the winner or loser during the Golden Era.
Loser and Winner here are simply referring to the person who stood above the rest (winner) and those who stood below (losers). Like in the current era there is no 1 person who stands above the rest (no winner yet).
I am of the opinion, Gol D. Roger was the winner of that era, and Shiki and Whitebeard were the losers of that era. My reasoning is as follows:
1. Gol D. Roger, according to Don Chinjao was the King who stood above the other Kings who possess CoC (which is pretty much all top tier pirates)
2. Gol D. Roger did the impossible by conquering the grandline. While many say Whitebeard could've done it, I agree he could've after Roger told him about it and was no longer alive.
3. Roger had proven himself superior to Whitebeard, this is implied when Don Chinjao talks about Luffy needing to be stronger than the Yonko & Admirals.
4. It is regarded as Roger's era, not Whitebeard & Roger's era, but just Roger's era. Just as the era before Roger's was the Rox's and the era after was Whitebeard's.
Shanks, Kaido, Big Mom and essentially all the other pirates were considered silver medalists/losers compared to Whitebeard, who was called Ruler of the Seas. Similarly I believe Whitebeard and Shiki were silver medalists/losers compared to Roger, who was acknowledged as the King of all Pirates.
Addressing the most likely argument of Whitebeard not going after PK or One Piece: Neither Roger or Shiki went after PK or One Piece. Roger for the feats he had achieved, which included proving himself superior to Whitebeard, became acknowledged as the Pirate King. Not merely due to going to Raftel.
So do you guys believe that Roger was winner of that era, which makes Whitebeard and Shiki the losers OR do you guys believe that there is no winner or loser of the Golden Era?
Loser and Winner here are simply referring to the person who stood above the rest (winner) and those who stood below (losers). Like in the current era there is no 1 person who stands above the rest (no winner yet).
I am of the opinion, Gol D. Roger was the winner of that era, and Shiki and Whitebeard were the losers of that era. My reasoning is as follows:
1. Gol D. Roger, according to Don Chinjao was the King who stood above the other Kings who possess CoC (which is pretty much all top tier pirates)
2. Gol D. Roger did the impossible by conquering the grandline. While many say Whitebeard could've done it, I agree he could've after Roger told him about it and was no longer alive.
3. Roger had proven himself superior to Whitebeard, this is implied when Don Chinjao talks about Luffy needing to be stronger than the Yonko & Admirals.
4. It is regarded as Roger's era, not Whitebeard & Roger's era, but just Roger's era. Just as the era before Roger's was the Rox's and the era after was Whitebeard's.
Shanks, Kaido, Big Mom and essentially all the other pirates were considered silver medalists/losers compared to Whitebeard, who was called Ruler of the Seas. Similarly I believe Whitebeard and Shiki were silver medalists/losers compared to Roger, who was acknowledged as the King of all Pirates.
Addressing the most likely argument of Whitebeard not going after PK or One Piece: Neither Roger or Shiki went after PK or One Piece. Roger for the feats he had achieved, which included proving himself superior to Whitebeard, became acknowledged as the Pirate King. Not merely due to going to Raftel.
So do you guys believe that Roger was winner of that era, which makes Whitebeard and Shiki the losers OR do you guys believe that there is no winner or loser of the Golden Era?
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Wb didn't want to be PK, conquer grand line or have a strong crew, how you can consider him as looser ? It's like saying luffy is a looser because he didn't become an admiral. As long their aim is different, no one lost no one won of the golden era. So i answered his question. Aka Inu said that to trigger ace, it worked and it will work on you too.
