Questions & Mysteries were Luffy vs kaido, doffy, pre ts lucci, crocodile, etc a draw?
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Its high time y'all accept it.
Luffy was never meant to be long hour fighter.
He gives his everything in the 10-20 mins he got , With DF and Haki to its limits.
He's fight with. Major characters were never 1v1 properly.
Oda has made this his fighting style. "Hit and Run"
With crocodile , Kaido , Kata , bro left the grounds.
Ran away. Came back and then ran away , And winning against them in the final round when they were all exhausted as well.
While Powers up for him kept on adding up.
Villain remained the same.
That's how Luffy. Win.
Current fight. Oda was respectful enough to Luffy to atleast punch Kizaru once. That's it.
Luffy's is out again , ran away (being carried by others lol).
Whereas Kizaru
- Didn't use any named attack.
- wasn't even fighting Luffy seriously.
- Tanked an adcoc attack , and is Overacting , that's Kizaru lol. (Aramaki took an attack head on and was fine , even if it's Yamato , let's say it twice or even thrice time weaker than Luffy , do you think it can take out an admiral?)
- Yonkou > Admiral that's a fact. But gap is not too big. No Yonkou is winning against an Admiral without High-Extreme diff fight.
- Kizaru When taking Marco kick , Got pushed back , Said it hurts , but y'all know what it did.
- Kizaru never intended to fight. His objective is pretty clear
Kizaru getting punched is no L for Kizaru.
But Luffy going out is pretty pathetic as a Yonkou.
Not to forget , we have no Haki feat , no DF fest from Kizaru this time.
Luffy was never meant to be long hour fighter.
He gives his everything in the 10-20 mins he got , With DF and Haki to its limits.
He's fight with. Major characters were never 1v1 properly.
Oda has made this his fighting style. "Hit and Run"
With crocodile , Kaido , Kata , bro left the grounds.
Ran away. Came back and then ran away , And winning against them in the final round when they were all exhausted as well.
While Powers up for him kept on adding up.
Villain remained the same.
That's how Luffy. Win.
Current fight. Oda was respectful enough to Luffy to atleast punch Kizaru once. That's it.
Luffy's is out again , ran away (being carried by others lol).
Whereas Kizaru
- Didn't use any named attack.
- wasn't even fighting Luffy seriously.
- Tanked an adcoc attack , and is Overacting , that's Kizaru lol. (Aramaki took an attack head on and was fine , even if it's Yamato , let's say it twice or even thrice time weaker than Luffy , do you think it can take out an admiral?)
- Yonkou > Admiral that's a fact. But gap is not too big. No Yonkou is winning against an Admiral without High-Extreme diff fight.
- Kizaru When taking Marco kick , Got pushed back , Said it hurts , but y'all know what it did.
- Kizaru never intended to fight. His objective is pretty clear
- Take out vegapunk
- Don't damage stuff around much.
Kizaru getting punched is no L for Kizaru.
But Luffy going out is pretty pathetic as a Yonkou.
Not to forget , we have no Haki feat , no DF fest from Kizaru this time.
Luffy won fair and square with pre time skip Lucci, Lucci was arrogant, gave Luffy time to build up rage and do that falcon gatling or whatever it was that KO Lucci.
Luffy lost with Doffy but at the same time it was plot that had Doffy survive 20 minutes ragdolled by G4.
Luffy decisively lost vs Kaido, he only won because disgusting amounts of plot power had to be used. I have seen no shounen MC lose 4 or 5 times, unlock multiple power ups mid fight, litterally die and resuscitate way stronger to beat a villain, all in a single fight.
Luffy lost with Doffy but at the same time it was plot that had Doffy survive 20 minutes ragdolled by G4.
Luffy decisively lost vs Kaido, he only won because disgusting amounts of plot power had to be used. I have seen no shounen MC lose 4 or 5 times, unlock multiple power ups mid fight, litterally die and resuscitate way stronger to beat a villain, all in a single fight.
Apart from Lucci he kinda lost in most of them, or at the very least was the inferior fighter. Kaido is arguable I suppose because of gear 5, but can't ignore the amount of help and circumstance he had until that point.
Oda has this annoying habit of making everyone pull together to help Luffy win or nerfing the villain instead of Luffy winning on his own prowess. This actually would be fine but then he proceeds to give him a higher bounty than the people he fought and act as though Luffy was the one who won.
Seems to have gotten better lately, I think that won't happen as much anymore with gear 5. But instead he's pulling on another irritating theme which is nerfing him instead. Like right now against Saturn, he made sure Luffy was exhausted before he put them in the same scene.
Oda has this annoying habit of making everyone pull together to help Luffy win or nerfing the villain instead of Luffy winning on his own prowess. This actually would be fine but then he proceeds to give him a higher bounty than the people he fought and act as though Luffy was the one who won.
Seems to have gotten better lately, I think that won't happen as much anymore with gear 5. But instead he's pulling on another irritating theme which is nerfing him instead. Like right now against Saturn, he made sure Luffy was exhausted before he put them in the same scene.
