Speculations Were Sanji and Marco no match for King and Queen?

Kuro Ashi

Kuro Ashi

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#161
#161
Sanji's the one who stopped fighting Queen after he kicked him because Zoro was in danger



Queen only catches up afterwards.

So base Sanji's the one who can afford to turn his back to Hybrid Queen when he's needed somewhere else, and Queen probably can't take advantage of that because as shown he's getting kicked around by Sanji and he doesn't get to retaliate :myman:
 
Finalbeta

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
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#162
#162
draganax said:
Sanji simply didn't do enough damage to maintain queen's aggro, sending queen flying and making him bleed is not a reliable proof of damage, chopper displayed similar feats yet he himself admitted that it doesn't work.
Queen didn't even care to retaliate on sanji kicking him, and that is enough proof for me to believe that queen doesn't consider sanji a threat, yet. Casually ignoring him and moving to finish off an immobile opponent.

Even if oda still hids some greater power for sanji, i think he's not doing a good job portraying it.
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That was my argument long ago. The blood vs no blood situation.

I must be honest though and suggest that Sanji will probably attain the most of the job against Queen nonetheless. It will likely not happen in short and unless Zoro pulls a lot of support that wise this is likely what's gonna happen. I seriously doubt they will not come up with at least one decisive combo per Beast Calamity.
 
Shasha23

Shasha23

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#163
#163
BleakAsh said:
the fodder only call out marco once and marco is already down and the fact that Queen is astonished that he's even alive proves that even more

then the panel switched to sanji who's huffing and fodder asks him if he's ok .. then sanji says " Fighting both of them together is kinda tough " again the present participle "fighting" refers to whats going on and the fact that he's huffing indicates that he just got blown away by the 2



the fact that one fodder says "WHERE IS MARCO" means that he had no idea what happend to him.. if he knew he was down he wouldn't call him.. which is exactly why the next samurai says that he's at his limits already meaning marco hasn't been doing anything about them commanders running a muck and frying fodders ..


there is a logical gap between marco's panel and sanji's panel thematically

Fodder: HE IS AT HIS LIMIT ALREADY

Sanji: CRAP FIGHTING BOTH OF THEM TOGETHER IS KINDA TOUGGH. (people say the "kuso" is somehting sanji says always which is a false interpretation of the context Kuso marimo = Shitty mosshead which is just a metaphor for insult , kussoooo=dammit or CRAP (which excalims how arduous doing something is , its just a matter of context)

what this means is sanji understands how hard it is to fight both of them since h just tried and got blown away.


already
/ɔːlˈrɛdi/

adverb
1.
before or by now or the time in question.


compared to the adverb that refers to "been some time" in context used here rather than exclaiming "he's at his limit already?!"

fighting in sanji's dialogue refers to present contemporary situation


Logically if marco and sanji fight both king and queen there is no doubt sanji and Macro will prevail... but in this context marco is at his limit already so sanji is doing the solo work here

henceforth, marco was down already and sanji had to take over and he fought but got thrown back , Queen is astonised that marco is healed up and alive meaning he wasn't just a moment ago..


what further proves that sanji fought both of them while marco was down and healing
is him approaching king when king was about to attack zoro's group ..if sanji knew marco was there up and ok why would he dash towards zoro? why not keep queen at bay ?
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The official cleared it up for you then?
Sanji never fought King and Queen alone.
 
M944

M944

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#170
#170
Human D Luffy said:
Fighting both of them the same time with Marco is hard LOL, thats why Sanji needed to collapse the same time Marco collapsed.
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As it was show by an user Marco collapsed long before Sanji
If we can talk about collapsed as it was just exhaustion

Man everyone agrees now that Sanji fought both of them at the same Time.
Even saying both of then at same time when he fought only one is dumb
 
Sir Yasheen

Sir Yasheen

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#171
#171
M944 said:
As it was show by an user Marco collapsed long before Sanji
If we can talk about collapsed as it was just exhaustion

Man everyone agrees now that Sanji fought both of them at the same Time.
Even saying both of then at same time when he fought only one is dumb
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Dudes a troll probably an alt to some other Sanji hater. Just ignore him like everyone else
 
ShadyOjiro

ShadyOjiro

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#173
#173
draganax said:
We saw that marco fought king for half an hour while chopper was fighting queen. and marco was in a decent condition by the time sanji joined the fight.
What the hell was sanji doing for things to go to shit in less than 2 minutes, and fodder were saying that marco reached his limit a long time ago.
Maybe queen got tired from sanji only dodging his lasers and decided to ignore him.
Sanji is useless more than kid.
WTF Oda? :kaidowhat:
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Marco had to rescue Sanji too much that it cost him his stamina .

:sadgrin:
 
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