[FNZ] Role Madness WG Memes Mafia - Boys Vs Girls Game Thread
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Town Leader:- @TheAncientCenturion
Scum Leader:- @oddoddfruit
1. @Kurozumi Seven7
- Primary: Town Serial Killer (Town Vigilante)
- Secondary: 1% Of My Full Power (Town Voting)
2. @Midnight Delight
- Primary: Gamberu (Town Vigilante)
- Secondary: Father (Town Investigative)
3. @DoctorIndigo @MangoSenpai
- Primary: Giga Super RM 4Fun RPG Spammers (Town Troll)
- Secondary: Where Pizza? (Town Support)
4 @T-Pein™
- Primary: Town Core (Town Core)
- Secondary: Who We Lynching (Town Voting)
5. @Alwaysmind
- Primary: Secret Town Role - Mbxx (Town Secret)
- Secondary: My Blood Is Always Green (Town Vigilante)
6. @Charlie
- Primary: Art Requests (Town Role Shifter)
- Secondary: Indie Cell (Mafia Hyper Carry)
7. @TheAncientCenturion
- Primary: Town Kawaii Mascot (Town Voting)
- Secondary: Kvothe Slip (Mafia Damage Control)
8. @Yo Tan Wa @Zolo
- Primary: Al-Scuma (Mafia Godfather)
- Secondary: King in the North (Town Leader)
9. @Rottkins
- Primary: Praise The Hosts (Mafia Damage Control)
- Secondary: Frank (Mafia Hyper Carry)
10. @Worst
- Primary: Hold This L (Mafia Damage Control)
- Secondary: The Chaos Reaper (Mafia Chaos Lord)
11. @DoflaMihawk
- Primary: Finding Vic (Indie McMuffiner)
- Secondary: Little Sheep (Town Role Shifter)
12. @Dr_Professor83
- Primary: Lelouch D Yagami (Indie Mysterious)
- Secondary: Dr. Paranoid 83 (Town Protective)
13. @oddoddfruit
- Primary: Jin Woo (Indie "Pro-Town")
- Secondary: The Secret Mafia Role - Epic Male Stripper (Mafia Secret)
14. @Peroroncino - Extra player via Hold This L. Only has one role. Will die if Hold This L dies.
- Primary: White Queen (Indie Mysterious)
- Secondary: N/A
Scum Leader:- @oddoddfruit
1. @Kurozumi Seven7
- Primary: Town Serial Killer (Town Vigilante)
- Secondary: 1% Of My Full Power (Town Voting)
2. @Midnight Delight
- Primary: Gamberu (Town Vigilante)
- Secondary: Father (Town Investigative)
3. @DoctorIndigo @MangoSenpai
- Primary: Giga Super RM 4Fun RPG Spammers (Town Troll)
- Secondary: Where Pizza? (Town Support)
4 @T-Pein™
- Primary: Town Core (Town Core)
- Secondary: Who We Lynching (Town Voting)
5. @Alwaysmind
- Primary: Secret Town Role - Mbxx (Town Secret)
- Secondary: My Blood Is Always Green (Town Vigilante)
6. @Charlie
- Primary: Art Requests (Town Role Shifter)
- Secondary: Indie Cell (Mafia Hyper Carry)
7. @TheAncientCenturion
- Primary: Town Kawaii Mascot (Town Voting)
- Secondary: Kvothe Slip (Mafia Damage Control)
8. @Yo Tan Wa @Zolo
- Primary: Al-Scuma (Mafia Godfather)
- Secondary: King in the North (Town Leader)
9. @Rottkins
- Primary: Praise The Hosts (Mafia Damage Control)
- Secondary: Frank (Mafia Hyper Carry)
10. @Worst
- Primary: Hold This L (Mafia Damage Control)
- Secondary: The Chaos Reaper (Mafia Chaos Lord)
11. @DoflaMihawk
- Primary: Finding Vic (Indie McMuffiner)
- Secondary: Little Sheep (Town Role Shifter)
12. @Dr_Professor83
- Primary: Lelouch D Yagami (Indie Mysterious)
- Secondary: Dr. Paranoid 83 (Town Protective)
13. @oddoddfruit
- Primary: Jin Woo (Indie "Pro-Town")
- Secondary: The Secret Mafia Role - Epic Male Stripper (Mafia Secret)
14. @Peroroncino - Extra player via Hold This L. Only has one role. Will die if Hold This L dies.
- Primary: White Queen (Indie Mysterious)
- Secondary: N/A
girls' comp
Town Leader: - @Rej
Scum Leader: - @Naomi
1. @Natalija
- Primary: Tucker Carlson (Town Extra)
- Secondary: Art Requests (Town Shape Shifter)
2. @hime
- Primary: 500 IQ Town Leader (Town Leader)
- Secondary: Where Pizza? (Town Support)
3. @Rej
- Primary: Gamberu ~ (Town Vigilante)
- Secondary: The Hololive Split (Town Field Spell)
4. @Meeyori
- Primary: Father (Town Investigative)
- Secondary: Godmommie (Town Support)
5. @Michelle
- Primary: Town Core (Town Core)
- Secondary: Town Kawaii Mascot (Town Voting)
6. @Juliet
- Primary: Cute Kitty Avatar (Town Troll)
- Secondary: Praise The Hosts (Mafia Damage Control)
7. @Worm Juice
- Primary: The Ripped Core (Town Core)
- Secondary: Al-Scuma (Mafia Godfather)
8. @MonochromeYoru
- Primary: Ekko Tags (Town Troll)
- Secondary: Indie Cell (Mafia Hyper Carry)
9. @Ratchet
- Primary: The Eternal Godfather (Mafia Godfather)
- Secondary: The Supreme Alliance (Town Field Spell)
10.@joygirl
- Primary: Wueen (Mafia Vigilante)
- Secondary: Kumamon (Mafia Vigilante)
11. @Flower
- Primary: Finding Vic (Indie McMuffiner)
- Secondary: Dr. Bully Paranoid 83 (Town Troll)
12. @Naomi
- Primary: Secret Indie Role - Daycare Attendant (Indie Secret)
- Secondary: Decim (Town Support)
13. @Fujishiro @AverageNamiEnjoyer
- Primary: N'Zoth (Indie Mysterious)
- Secondary: Indie Lives Matter (Indie McMuffiner)
Town Leader: - @Rej
Scum Leader: - @Naomi
1. @Natalija
- Primary: Tucker Carlson (Town Extra)
- Secondary: Art Requests (Town Shape Shifter)
2. @hime
- Primary: 500 IQ Town Leader (Town Leader)
- Secondary: Where Pizza? (Town Support)
3. @Rej
- Primary: Gamberu ~ (Town Vigilante)
- Secondary: The Hololive Split (Town Field Spell)
4. @Meeyori
- Primary: Father (Town Investigative)
- Secondary: Godmommie (Town Support)
5. @Michelle
- Primary: Town Core (Town Core)
- Secondary: Town Kawaii Mascot (Town Voting)
6. @Juliet
- Primary: Cute Kitty Avatar (Town Troll)
- Secondary: Praise The Hosts (Mafia Damage Control)
7. @Worm Juice
- Primary: The Ripped Core (Town Core)
- Secondary: Al-Scuma (Mafia Godfather)
8. @MonochromeYoru
- Primary: Ekko Tags (Town Troll)
- Secondary: Indie Cell (Mafia Hyper Carry)
9. @Ratchet
- Primary: The Eternal Godfather (Mafia Godfather)
- Secondary: The Supreme Alliance (Town Field Spell)
10.@joygirl
- Primary: Wueen (Mafia Vigilante)
- Secondary: Kumamon (Mafia Vigilante)
11. @Flower
- Primary: Finding Vic (Indie McMuffiner)
- Secondary: Dr. Bully Paranoid 83 (Town Troll)
12. @Naomi
- Primary: Secret Indie Role - Daycare Attendant (Indie Secret)
- Secondary: Decim (Town Support)
13. @Fujishiro @AverageNamiEnjoyer
- Primary: N'Zoth (Indie Mysterious)
- Secondary: Indie Lives Matter (Indie McMuffiner)
Day 7 Lynch - The Boys Last Hope
@oddoddfruit 's primary role (Jin Woo) was majority lynched!
His shadows @Alwaysmind 's primary role (The Secret Town - MBXX) and @Midnight Delight 's primary role (Gamberu~~) have died with him.
@T-Pein™ 's primary role (The Town Core) was unjanitored.
@Naomi 's primary role (The Secret Indie - Daycare Attendant) was plurality lynched!
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Night 7 - The Finale
The Girls Town have eliminated all the Boys Mafia, Indie "Protown", and Indie Mysterious roles, achieving the following win condition:
The Girls (Team B) have won Round 1.
Score - [Boy: 0 - Girls: 1]
Thanks so much for playing everyone! I understand how busy some of you were, so I really appreciate you sticking around for this.
I do not think I will conduct Round 2 at this time. I believe the setup is okay, however it's complexity might have been too overwhelming for some players to keep track off. At this time I would like to take in as much feedback from the players as I give my full thoughts on how the game turned out. I will reply to your feedbacks with information from the setup if possible, and note them down for future implementations.
There were lots of players confused on what was going on. The lack of coordination between the players is one of the reasons for this, but also the overall complexity of the game. The game thread write-ups and the feedbacks that players received in their role PMs were intended to not provide too much information, because the entire gender have means to communicate information with each other. This was very underutilized, both in thread and via the roles that allow the genders to communicate. The girls did a better job at this than the boys, who had almost 0 private communication role.
Speaking of the boys, they were very close to winning, particularly in night 4. The boys mafia team needed to put more thoughts on their factional kill and who performs it. They have failed 2 kills on the same bulletproof player (Juliet) and were unable to cause distraction to save TAC in day 1 (which resulted in them being unable to factional kill in night 1). They have only realized they have Zolo in their team towards the end of the game unfortunately. There were also no attempts from the boys to cause distractions and redirect attention from Zolo to them. There was also no attempts to transform one of the boys role into a reviver like the Godmommie, despite them needing that role a lot, and were able to get it easily via their shape shifters. There was also no attempt to obtain the Tucker Carlson role to aid with communication. And to make it worst, most of the boys town roles were very underutilized, specially the vigs. Overall, I think the girls understood the game mechanics and the roles better, and were able to use that to their advantage. They earned this victory.
Now, in particular, the double role mechanic was the single most confusing mechanic for the players to play around, and frankly the double roles were only introduced due to the lower number of sign-ups. We squeezed in lots of busy players that were unable to invest time in playing such a complex and overwhelming game, and I do not blame them. Running this as a 10 vs 10 with no double roles might have been healthier.
This was an experimental game style, and I am looking to make it something consistent. I did notice over time that WG players overall prefer closed setups over open setups, and seeing the way this game was played out confirms this for me. Almost not a single role was claimed, even though the game is an open setup. I personally expected to see 500 fake claims and players baiting lynches on themselves from their important team roles lol. I have also expected more jesters and unjesters to be utilized for baits and sacrifices for the greater good.
I am actually overall happy with how this game ran. The team vs team requires different mentality than a normal mafia game. I believe once the players adjust to that mentality, the game quality and competitiveness will sky rocket. The players had a big amount of freedom to make as many plays as they wanted this game and that's something that I will continue allowing. This comes with a downside, and its that giving too much freedom overwhelms the players since there is no particular one way to play the game. The opportunities were limitless, and contribution is overall rewarded. It's a shame really that half the roles went unused in almost every cycle, even without the instant hammers.
I do not think this was the best time to run a game of this complexity that requires so much player investment, seeing as how the mafia section has been low activity the past month. While I personally believe that the setup will be played completely different if all the players understood the roles and mechanics, and were able to contribute actions wise, I really cannot blame anyone for being overwhelmed playing this for the first time. Thanks again for playing everyone. I do really appreciate it! I am sure both teams tried their best with the time and availability they got!
Score - [Boy: 0 - Girls: 1]
Thanks so much for playing everyone! I understand how busy some of you were, so I really appreciate you sticking around for this.
I do not think I will conduct Round 2 at this time. I believe the setup is okay, however it's complexity might have been too overwhelming for some players to keep track off. At this time I would like to take in as much feedback from the players as I give my full thoughts on how the game turned out. I will reply to your feedbacks with information from the setup if possible, and note them down for future implementations.
There were lots of players confused on what was going on. The lack of coordination between the players is one of the reasons for this, but also the overall complexity of the game. The game thread write-ups and the feedbacks that players received in their role PMs were intended to not provide too much information, because the entire gender have means to communicate information with each other. This was very underutilized, both in thread and via the roles that allow the genders to communicate. The girls did a better job at this than the boys, who had almost 0 private communication role.
Speaking of the boys, they were very close to winning, particularly in night 4. The boys mafia team needed to put more thoughts on their factional kill and who performs it. They have failed 2 kills on the same bulletproof player (Juliet) and were unable to cause distraction to save TAC in day 1 (which resulted in them being unable to factional kill in night 1). They have only realized they have Zolo in their team towards the end of the game unfortunately. There were also no attempts from the boys to cause distractions and redirect attention from Zolo to them. There was also no attempts to transform one of the boys role into a reviver like the Godmommie, despite them needing that role a lot, and were able to get it easily via their shape shifters. There was also no attempt to obtain the Tucker Carlson role to aid with communication. And to make it worst, most of the boys town roles were very underutilized, specially the vigs. Overall, I think the girls understood the game mechanics and the roles better, and were able to use that to their advantage. They earned this victory.
Now, in particular, the double role mechanic was the single most confusing mechanic for the players to play around, and frankly the double roles were only introduced due to the lower number of sign-ups. We squeezed in lots of busy players that were unable to invest time in playing such a complex and overwhelming game, and I do not blame them. Running this as a 10 vs 10 with no double roles might have been healthier.
This was an experimental game style, and I am looking to make it something consistent. I did notice over time that WG players overall prefer closed setups over open setups, and seeing the way this game was played out confirms this for me. Almost not a single role was claimed, even though the game is an open setup. I personally expected to see 500 fake claims and players baiting lynches on themselves from their important team roles lol. I have also expected more jesters and unjesters to be utilized for baits and sacrifices for the greater good.
I am actually overall happy with how this game ran. The team vs team requires different mentality than a normal mafia game. I believe once the players adjust to that mentality, the game quality and competitiveness will sky rocket. The players had a big amount of freedom to make as many plays as they wanted this game and that's something that I will continue allowing. This comes with a downside, and its that giving too much freedom overwhelms the players since there is no particular one way to play the game. The opportunities were limitless, and contribution is overall rewarded. It's a shame really that half the roles went unused in almost every cycle, even without the instant hammers.
I do not think this was the best time to run a game of this complexity that requires so much player investment, seeing as how the mafia section has been low activity the past month. While I personally believe that the setup will be played completely different if all the players understood the roles and mechanics, and were able to contribute actions wise, I really cannot blame anyone for being overwhelmed playing this for the first time. Thanks again for playing everyone. I do really appreciate it! I am sure both teams tried their best with the time and availability they got!
@Worst @Charlie @Joygirl @hime @Worm Juice @Peroroncino @Natalija @T-Pein™ @Michelle @Naomi @Alwaysmind @Rottkins @TheAncientCenturion @AverageNamiEnjoyer @DoflaMihawk @RippedCal @Yo Tan Wa @Zolo @Meeyori @Kurozumi Seven7 @Midnight Delight @DoctorIndigo @MangoSenpai @Rej @Ratchet @Juliet @Flower @oddoddfruit @MonochromeYoru @Dr_Professor83
im just being lazy
i think alwaysmind got killed twice in the same night
one kill came from the girls, the other was redirected at random to him due to @MonochromeYoru 's kekko tags reflecting the kill back that night
one kill came from the girls, the other was redirected at random to him due to @MonochromeYoru 's kekko tags reflecting the kill back that night
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