Powers & Abilities What abilities do Gunko's eyes hold?

#1
Oda often takes inspiration from Dragonball, could Gunko have two distinct personalities, just like the has two different eyes?
LIke Lunch, who is also blue haired.


Most now think Gunko will somehwo break free from Imu's control. Seems absurd, considering that even Harald couldn't. Harald had maxxed out stats, including Haki. If he couldn't do it, you cannot overpower the Abyssal Mark. But perhaps the eyes somehow allow it. Maybe in her alternative personality she is no longer bound. But that seems unlikely, as Imu knows the power of the eyes. He desires them.



Is it combat related? Will Luffy have to fight Imu in Gunko's body at the end? Doesn't seem right to me. The final fight ought to take place in Pangea Castle, with Imu in his own body.
So maybe the eyes give utility, like the Third Eye of Pudding. Perhaps with the eyes, Gunko could somehow find Laughtale for Imu, and he could then destroy the Rio Ponelgyph and all of the One Piece.
Though if there is in the end just one job for Gunko why make her immortal? Just because it can take so long to awaken the eyes?
Could Imu rip out her eyes Naruto style, when she finally awakens them?
I don't have an answer yet. What do you think?
 
#3
Yeah, the official Viz translation, and some fan translations use the term "Bipolar Irises" for her eyes. So, that along with the heterochromia does feel like a hint that they're linked to a duality of some kind.

A split personality isn't impossible. But, that shouldn't be their main power. Because...that's not really a power? If Shuri and Gunko had different abilities in their different forms, like some sort of form change or something, then maybe that'd be a case. But, why would Imu be interested in someone who just has a split personality? Where's the gain?

It's possible this is all linked back to Cavendish, who might have a similar power. Or a "lesser" or "diluted" version of Shuri's power.

(Chapter 773)

Cavendish's other half, Hakuba, seemed to have increased speed and battle abilities. I guess you MIGHT be able to say there's a similar difference with Shuri and Gunko.

We haven't really seen that, yet. But, if that is the case, it's possible that Imu wanted Shuri to use her lineage factor as a part of their cloning experiments. Using Shuri's "Bipolar" abilities to make a army with the same heightened abilities. More fodder for the Super Soldier program.



But, the focus on the eyes makes me think these "Bipolar Irises" have something more to do with "sight" more than anything else. The Three Eyed Tribe can supposedly read the Poneglyphs with their eyes. So, chances are, these special Bipolar eyes also have something to do with "seeing" something differently than others.

(...That might sound obvious, but, hey, stay with me!)

So, two-toned eyes. That feels like it implies that you can see two different things.

Two different..."worlds" maybe?

The world of the living and the afterlife? That would be kind of fitting for something coming up during Brook's flashback, connecting things to the living and the dead in different ways.

The past and the future? The "white" and "black" eyes could even be referencing the panel borders we see in the present and the past, like how the panel border always changes to black when we go into a flashback.

Well...there IS one other notable example of two different "worlds" that One Piece has been focusing on for a while now. The Good and Bad Futures that Oda gives us a glimpse of in the SBS segments.


What if Shuri can see the Good and Bad Futures with her Bipolar Eyes? Being able to see two alternate futures would DEFINITELY be something that Imu would be interested in. And if Shuri could awaken that ability, knowledge of the future would give Imu a big edge in any upcoming battle. That's a ability worth having on your side.

And the manga has already mentioned Shuri developing her Future Sight uncommonly quickly.

(Chapter 1185)

So, I think that's the most likely explanation. The Bipolar Eyes give Shuri a unique version of Future Sight. Possibly being able to see into two different futures, the "Good" and "Bad" Futures of the SBSes.

But, I wouldn't be surprised if there's also some sort of link between Shuri/Gunko and Cavendish/Hakuba. Maybe the split personalities are a result of getting "glimpses" of the Good and Bad Futures? Who knows? But, my personal bet is that the Bipolar Eyes give Shuri a rare form of Future Sight. Whether that's connected to the Two Futures or not, that's more of a gamble, I'll admit.
 
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#4
Yeah, the official Viz translation, and some fan translations use the term "Bipolar Irises" for her eyes. So, that along with the heterochromia does feel like a hint that they're linked to a duality of some kind.

A split personality isn't impossible. But, that shouldn't be their main power. Because...that's not really a power? If Shuri and Gunko had different abilities in their different forms, like some sort of form change or something, then maybe that'd be a case. But, why would Imu be interested in someone who just has a split personality? Where's the gain?

It's possible this is all linked back to Cavendish, who might have a similar power. Or a "lesser" or "diluted" version of Shuri's power.

(Chapter 773)

Cavendish's other half, Hakuba, seemed to have increased speed and battle abilities. I guess you MIGHT be able to say there's a similar difference with Shuri and Gunko.

We haven't really seen that, yet. But, if that is the case, it's possible that Imu wanted Shuri to use her lineage factor as a part of their cloning experiments. Using Shuri's "Bipolar" abilities to make a army with the same heightened abilities. More fodder for the Super Soldier program.



But, the focus on the eyes makes me think these "Bipolar Irises" have something more to do with "sight" more than anything else. The Three Eyed Tribe can supposedly read the Poneglyphs with their eyes. So, chances are, these special Bipolar eyes also have something to do with "seeing" something differently than others.

(...That might sound obvious, but, hey, stay with me!)

So, two-toned eyes. That feels like it implies that you can see two different things.

Two different..."worlds" maybe?

The world of the living and the afterlife? That would be kind of fitting for something coming up during Brook's flashback, connecting things to the living and the dead in different ways.

The past and the future? The "white" and "black" eyes could even be referencing the panel borders we see in the present and the past, like how the panel border always changes to black when we go into a flashback.

Well...there IS one other notable example of two different "worlds" that One Piece has been focusing on for a while now. The Good and Bad Futures that Oda gives us a glimpse of in the SBS segments.


What if Shuri can see the Good and Bad Futures with her Bipolar Eyes? Being able to see two alternate futures would DEFINITELY be something that Imu would be interested in. And if Shuri could awaken that ability, knowledge of the future would give Imu a big edge in any upcoming battle. That's a ability worth having on your side.

And the manga has already mentioned Shuri developing her Future Sight uncommonly quickly.

(Chapter 1185)

So, I think that's the most likely explanation. The Bipolar Eyes give Shuri a unique version of Future Sight. Possibly being able to see into two different futures, the "Good" and "Bad" Futures of the SBSes.

But, I wouldn't be surprised if there's also some sort of link between Shuri/Gunko and Cavendish/Hakuba. Maybe the split personalities are a result of getting "glimpses" of the Good and Bad Futures? Who knows? But, my personal bet is that the Bipolar Eyes give Shuri a rare form of Future Sight. Whether that's connected to the Two Futures or not, that's more of a gamble, I'll admit.
So did Gunko killed his adopted father to stop an even worse future but what could he even do? :kayneshrug:

Also good theory since that is an ability Imu would definitely desire.
 
#5
It will be sealed demon connected sort of things.
And most likely 20 family bloodline have it. Though they don't have any clue which offspring might end up having it.

Current candidates for it.
  • Imu
  • Gunko
  • Mihawk
  • Cavendish
  • Loki
For cavendish and Loki. Like come on, Canvendish is a royal and after looking at Esperia and God valley, it ain't farfetched to believe Cavendish is a Holyknight off spring too but HK didn't realise it.

For loki, look at how situation started to play, His mother can look into prophecies and what not. She could have done some ritual to bargain some deal with a demon but ironically it backfired. She hated the kid more than anyone else and also ended up dead due to sickness just like Candel.

So theory is, HK blood is required from 20 families, and demon summoning ritual.
Candel is weird case it can't farfetched of she is from CD bloodline too somehow. She gift harold a six legged Horse, no DF or anything. That shi is demonic no matter how you see it.
 
#7
It should be related to Maki, as that is this new power system Oda seemingly created out of nowhere.

Imu has special eyes and he can use maki freely.

My guess with Bipolar eyes is that it essentially lets you use the Maki equivalent to CoO. When Shuri saw the future, it was because she was using Maki, not haki.
 
#9
It should be related to Maki, as that is this new power system Oda seemingly created out of nowhere.

Imu has special eyes and he can use maki freely.

My guess with Bipolar eyes is that it essentially lets you use the Maki equivalent to CoO. When Shuri saw the future, it was because she was using Maki, not haki.
Shuri uses Maki in DR btw.

Also I'll still say It's connected to demons.
While figarland don't have eyesight, they are swordsman who can control curses. Cerebrus, Gryphon and whatever sword Garling holds.
 
#11
I think by awakening the eyes allow her to see or interact with the spiritual realm. Maybe it can manifest the haki left behind by Joyboy, just so Joyboy can see the world Imu has built. Or maybe Imu missed Lili and wanted to talk with her.
 
#13
So did Gunko killed his adopted father to stop an even worse future but what could he even do? :kayneshrug:

Also good theory since that is an ability Imu would definitely desire.
Well, the thing is, I don't think Shuri has actually awakened her power yet. Killing her father was a result of the Reversi, not her Bipolar Eyes, probably. We haven't seen her use any sort of eye powers, yet. So, I think even after 62 years, she STILL hasn't awakened her powers. (Unless her Bipolar Eyes are the reason she's stopped aging, but I can't think of a reason for why that would be the case.)

Chances are, Shuri/Gunko won't awaken her Eyes until later on. Probably to help the Strawhats out. Or as the plot demands it, we'll see.
It should be related to Maki, as that is this new power system Oda seemingly created out of nowhere.

Imu has special eyes and he can use maki freely.

My guess with Bipolar eyes is that it essentially lets you use the Maki equivalent to CoO. When Shuri saw the future, it was because she was using Maki, not haki.
OH! I actually didn't think about that angle! It would make some sense for Maki to have it's own version of Observation and Armament. We haven't really see Imu use that yet, but it does seem plausible. Although, I wonder if the other powers we've seen Imu use like Omen Rings takes the place of those powers, in this new power system?

Although....this is going to sound like it comes out of nowhere, and it kind of does. But, maybe the Bipolar Eyes aren't the result of either Haki or Maki. But, maybe they're a part of another "ki" system that Oda's still waiting to reveal. "Sa-ki". As in "Binks' Sake". The Bipolar Eyes MIGHT be a part of one of the "Ki" Systems, but we might be looking at three different systems instead of two. Haki, Maki, and Saki.

I've talked a little about it before over here:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/one-piece-chapter-1180-omen.81369/page-33#post-6679300
The title for this chapter is kind of interesting. Because while it can be read as "Omen", it can apparently also be read as "Maki" (魔気) or "Demonic Spirit" . Now, "Haki" (覇気) literally means "Domination Spirit". There are other meanings of the sound "ma" in Japanese, though, like the artistic "Ma" which is the concept of negative or empty space, which would fit something like the Void/Blank Century pretty well. But, I just have to wonder, if Imu is using "Maki" instead of "Haki", could that mean there are still other forms of "ki" that we haven't seen in the story, yet? Maybe "Bink's Sake" isn't about a alcoholic drink, but instead about some form of "Sa-ki" which would be interesting. "Sa" (さ)...is mostly a filler word in Japanese meaning "like" or "so", but it can be used to try and pressure or convince someone to do something. But, there is a word "Saki" (先), which means BOTH "past" AND "future". Which, kind of fits, if we're trying to make the future more like the past of the Void Century. That...would change "Binks' Saki" into a VERY different song. "We're trying to bring Bink's future!". Now, that would be kind of interesting. The original line is (ビンクスの酒を 届けにゆくよ) or "I'm going to deliver Binks' Sake". When I plug (ビンクスの先を 届けにゆくよ) into Google Translate, it spits out "I'm going to deliver Binks' Message", which is also a interesting alternate possibility. I don't know, something to think about.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma_(negative_space)
https://japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/14922/what-does-さあ-saa-mean
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/先
With the word "Saki" (先) meaning both "past" and "future", I feel like there's a possibility that's tied more to the dual nature of whatever's going on with these Bipolar Eyes. "Saki" feels like a word that would better fit a power that has two distinct parts.

But, this is all pretty baseless. Just a random thought I had. All coming from the idea that Haki and Maki both kind of rhyme with Sake. Still, maybe it's something to keep in mind.
Current candidates for it.
  • Imu
  • Gunko
  • Mihawk
  • Cavendish
  • Loki
...

For loki, look at how situation started to play, His mother can look into prophecies and what not. She could have done some ritual to bargain some deal with a demon but ironically it backfired. She hated the kid more than anyone else and also ended up dead due to sickness just like Candel.
Well, for Loki, specifically, I think something else is going on with his eyes, compared to some of the others.

I don't think his eyes are hinting at a special power. I think his eyes are hinting at his heritage, and what that means.

Because the Giants are probably all descendants of the Dragons. Loki's eyes look very similar to the eyes of the Dragon from Oda's one-shot manga Wanted.

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/lokis-eyes.69459/page-2#post-6172725
Over the years the Dragon blood has been diluted by more and more Human blood being added to their lineage. So, they become less Dragon-like over the years. Explaining why Ancient Giants look more "Demonic" while modern Giants look basically like big Humans.

So, I don't think that Loki's eyes are connected to these new Eye Powers that are popping up right now. Maybe? We'll see. But, for right now, I'm not expecting Loki's eyes to be revealed to have any sort of special powers.

But, it DOES tie in pretty nicely to the Elbaph arc's odd theme about "eyes", in general. We got Loki's unique eyes, we saw more of Imu who has his Ringed Eyes, and now we're getting Gunko's Bipolar Eyes. I guess eyes ARE said to be the windows into the soul, so maybe this is all tied together thematically somehow?



And, personally, I'm still not sure how the Ringed Eyes fit into all this. We still haven't seen anyone with Ringed Eyes use anything truly unique or special with those eyes. Imu didn't even make anyone's head explode by looking at them like Saturn did back on Egghead.

If there is something going on with the Ringed Eyes...I'm not sure it's been consistent across the manga? Too many different kind of characters have these Ringed Eyes to really draw any consistent conclusion about them. It's not just Imu and Mihawk who have those Ringed Eyes. Zunesha, the Sulong Minks, Big Mom, Cavendish/Hakuba, Caribou, and probably a lot of people I'm forgetting have also been seen to have Ringed Eyes.

So, personally, I don't think the Ringed Eyes are Powered Eyes, either. I think the Ringed Eyes are more hinting at a character either having a lot of Passion or Obsession. It's a visual way to communicate to the audience that these characters all have a one-track mind.
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/double-eye-pattern.68760/#post-6145018

Maybe Ringed Eyes are the "single eye" of this story, to contrast with the Bipolar Eyes and Three Eye Tribe. One, two, and three! If that was the case, maybe that does hint that the Ringed Eyes have some sort of power they can unlock. If not the Ringed Eyes, maybe we still have yet to meet some sort of "One Eye Tribe"?

But, again, we'll see. Oda's been dropping a lot of oblique Mihawk references during the Elbaph arc. Imu using a similar attack to Mihawk, Candelle having a similar "DON" font as when Mihawk appears. So, Oda has Mihawk on the brain, lately. I'm just not sure what all these hints are leading up to. So, maybe Mihawk and Imu's Ringed Eyes are somehow different than all the other Ringed Eyes we've seen throughout the series? But, I just don't know.
 
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#15
Some type of hax that can bypass DFs and haki type of shit

It's definitely superior to the unoriginal lazy CoC hacks, Imu desires it so Gunko's potential >>>>>> Shanks
 
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